All Star Team

both beg to differ, his 3 main skill sets include scoring and strength/rebounding
Problem is he must go to a team full of talent, where he plays the backseat role like Wade/Bosh did with Lebron

Think about it, on all those teams he had versatile skilled players like

Westbrook, Durant, Lebron, Harden, CP3, Iggy, KLOVE, etc, he respects all those guys and is WILLING to play off their abilities because they draw double/triple teams and he spread the floor while they break the defense's down and apply pressure on the opponents DEF and they are all athletic, quick/fast/strong, GREAT DEFENDERS, and all CAN REBOUND + HANDLE THE BALL

IF MELO wants to be on a CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDING TEAM, not just playoff's
He either must team up with a team that is very skilled, deep, filled with versatile 2 way talent like the Pacer's/Bulls
or
A team where he is not the one that initiate's the Offense, being the 2nd/3rd best player like to Houston/Miami/Clippers

at the very least to a team like

Portland
Suns
Orlando
Maybe Dallas

with YOUNG TALENT

He simply isn't as good as he thinks he is and must be willing to sacrifice for the better of the team

His DEF is much worse vs SF's with where his athleticism, speed/mobility, and DEF is average at best, so he needs an athletic/skilled/shot blocking C, in addition to a SF/PF, and a PG to set him him, translation = HE NEED's a lot of talent to be contender

Melo is also NOT a Leader, he is what he is... he is a scorer/rebounder and under average defender, and that is why we signed Kidd, resigned Pablo, trying to find leadership but they lack the talent

DK and TFK realize this, they might be a bit harsh for some, they both know Melo is a player that is very hard to build around and isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is
The reason Melo likes Woodson as a head coach is because his system allows Melo to continue to put big numbers at the cost of the team's chemistry with 30 shots to get 30 pts and continue to allow him to do so

However, just like last year vs the Pacer's, we would never win with that system, despite our Atlantic title in a water downed conference....

CrushAlot wrote:Hubie said it tonight. Teams need three guys. The Knicks have one guy.

EVERY TEAM and GM in the entire NBA realize that

BUT

NYK's and Dolan

I wonder if Dolan will listen to McKinsey, because so far McKinsey and Dolan have done NOTHING, is McKinsey not doing their job or is Dolan NOT listening?
Dolan hires a firm that I could tell him what the changes he could have done for their future
I would be shocked if McKinsey did not tell Dolan to change coaching staff, hire a competent GM, and trade asset/preserve cap space for 2015

Nalod wrote:We had 2.5. Stat is a shell of his former self. Chandler is the half.

IT was a good idea, it never worked.

If you think Mills and McKinsey have doe nothing then you don't understand time and what a consultant does.

They don't have magic dust that makes it all wonderful. My take is it started with Mills.

Goal no. 1 had to be "don't do anything stupid anymore!

2nd, hire a consultant. I doubt they even figured it out yet.

Wait, Am I really trying to explain this?

Read the NY POst, plead on websites that "dolan should sell", and think Mills is an idiot.

I'll give you a hint, look at the personnel line up for the knicks. Mills is President and GM. There are basketball guys there.

if they were doing their job,

Chris Smith would not have been on the team
Woodson would have been fired long ago
We would have traded Melo, Iman/Chandler, and got rid of Felton when we had the opportunity to do so

Mills is NOTHING but a MUPPET to Dolan
Dolan calls all the shots and that is why nothing was done...

RonRon wrote:

Nalod wrote:We had 2.5. Stat is a shell of his former self. Chandler is the half.

IT was a good idea, it never worked.

If you think Mills and McKinsey have doe nothing then you don't understand time and what a consultant does.

They don't have magic dust that makes it all wonderful. My take is it started with Mills.

Goal no. 1 had to be "don't do anything stupid anymore!

2nd, hire a consultant. I doubt they even figured it out yet.

Wait, Am I really trying to explain this?

Read the NY POst, plead on websites that "dolan should sell", and think Mills is an idiot.

I'll give you a hint, look at the personnel line up for the knicks. Mills is President and GM. There are basketball guys there.

if they were doing their job,

Chris Smith would not have been on the team
Woodson would have been fired long ago
We would have traded Melo, Iman/Chandler, and got rid of Felton when we had the opportunity to do so

Mills is NOTHING but a MUPPET to Dolan
Dolan calls all the shots and that is why nothing was done...

and what is your plan Nalod?

Stop asking question and STATE what you would do...

Thank You for NOT responding back to

if they were doing their job,

Chris Smith would not have been on the team
Woodson would have been fired long ago
We would have traded Melo, Iman/Chandler, and got rid of Felton when we had the opportunity to do so

Mills is NOTHING but a MUPPET to Dolan
Dolan calls all the shots and that is why nothing was done...

RonRon wrote:

RonRon wrote:

Nalod wrote:We had 2.5. Stat is a shell of his former self. Chandler is the half.

IT was a good idea, it never worked.

If you think Mills and McKinsey have doe nothing then you don't understand time and what a consultant does.

They don't have magic dust that makes it all wonderful. My take is it started with Mills.

Goal no. 1 had to be "don't do anything stupid anymore!

2nd, hire a consultant. I doubt they even figured it out yet.

Wait, Am I really trying to explain this?

Read the NY POst, plead on websites that "dolan should sell", and think Mills is an idiot.

I'll give you a hint, look at the personnel line up for the knicks. Mills is President and GM. There are basketball guys there.

if they were doing their job,

Chris Smith would not have been on the team
Woodson would have been fired long ago
We would have traded Melo, Iman/Chandler, and got rid of Felton when we had the opportunity to do so

Mills is NOTHING but a MUPPET to Dolan
Dolan calls all the shots and that is why nothing was done...

and what is your plan Nalod?

Stop asking question and STATE what you would do...

Thank You for NOT responding back to

if they were doing their job,

Chris Smith would not have been on the team
Woodson would have been fired long ago
We would have traded Melo, Iman/Chandler, and got rid of Felton when we had the opportunity to do so

Mills is NOTHING but a MUPPET to Dolan
Dolan calls all the shots and that is why nothing was done...

Can't respond to the mitching your doing. Thats my plan.

Knicksfan wrote:I just hope he is as considerate with us as he was with Denver when we had to give up so many assets.

Not that I expect any good decision from this laughingstock of an organization, but hopefully something good comes out of Melo leaving.

1-2 1st round draft picks (which would likely be late 1st rounders) anything extra would be generous IF the team can sign him outright
However, if it is for limited assets/picks, teams would actually prefer a sign and trade if they are contenders, because they would still get the MLE to use (whether 3m or 5m vs the room exemption)

I personally think that Miami will recruit him especially with Lebron's "recent concerns of their good friend"
Especially if the Pacers beat out Miami this year or if Miami doesn't win a ring
With Jordan, Kobe, Bill Russell, and the media about rings and Mount Rushmore, I think Lebron is much more concerned about his legacy than ever
He is a leader, is willing to sacrifice for the better of the team both on and off the court, so he would lead by example by taking less....

I think Lebron has made it clear that he wants to join contenders that are good/great defensive teams
Although Lebron has many option because he is so talented, he can join many teams with the cap room, solid players, and many assets to improve in trades or draft, such as Suns
Even to a team like Cleveland, Detroit, New Orleans and Orlando, that is how good Lebron is...

If teams like Rockets can trade Lin and Asik for trade exemptions, in addition to Harden, D12, Parsons, Terrence Jones, adding a 2 way player and leader like Lebron would make them favorites

or

La Clippers, they can easily trade some of their players like Jordan, Redick, Crawford, even Dudley and Barnes *especially if they added a pick*

or

SA/Dallas, I think Duncan would take even less if Lebron was willing to join SA with his player option, and they could move some of their contracts

The advantage that Florida and Texas teams have are both warm weather and state tax, another factor for many FA's

Honestly, Pacer's could have a dynasty forming now with the development of Lance Stephenson and the addition of Evan Turner, with Paul George/Hibbert/West/George Hill and many solid role players that play great TEAM BALL and GREAT DEF/REBOUNDING with amazing chemistry, on top of that they still have the 3m MLE and some trading/development assets/expirings with Solomin Hill/Scola/Copeland and David West

Even if Melo joined the Heat with Lebron, Wade/Bosh, and a developing lockdown DEF player in Norris Cole and solid defenders in Birdman, Haslem, and a the bird rights to a few others, I don't think they would be as deep as The Pacer's with their level of chemistry together

but

he already stated he will opt prior to the season and has reiterated so throughout the season
And with the way we are losing with our lack of moves we made to improve, I do not expect him to stay in NYK

We realized this at the trading deadline but still decided to keep him despite our record, and not move Felton/Iman when we could have
Moving Chandler is very doable if we were willing to take back Perkins and getting picks out of him, and fill ins

We will regret what we didn't do this summer and 2000-2010 starts all over again, but this time we cannot trade/purchase picks the way we use to buy our way out of it with this whole new CBA

I believe he already has an idea which teams he will sign with, however, he has learned from his past mistakes, that he should SIGN with the next team instead of forcing a trade, and that he must sacrifice a bit of money and on the court, if he wants to ever have a chance to compete...
He said all those NYK remarks was because he just didn't want to burn a bridge and keep his option open, while not wanting to move to a new city, and choosing his own destination this summer
He realizes he needs much help in order to contend and he will sign with a team in order to do so...

Dantoni was brought in here to attract future FA's with his philosophy, so was Amare to get that 1st big name player
All these moves were made to please Dolan and the NYK market...

holfresh wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:I just hope he is as considerate with us as he was with Denver when we had to give up so many assets.

Not that I expect any good decision from this laughingstock of an organization, but hopefully something good comes out of Melo leaving.

As an exercise..Please tell me the assets we legitimately gave up for Melo..My calculus says JR replaces Gallo's production ..The Mayor could not be resigned if he sign Melo as a free agent..Do please tell me who did we lose that made a difference..P.S..No one had answered this question yet..

Really?
i have answered it probably over 50x.........

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