BRIGGS wrote:Watching the game last night--seeing what they did at the deadline--the two recent signings. My only guess is that even at 17 games under being embarrassed thoroughly by a team that is in a super class above us--our only objective is to somehow by hook or crook hope that Atlanta can lose another 9/10 and we win 5-5 and bid for the 8th seed --oh yeah Clev and Detroit also have to lose. 7th seed is done.

I have little to zero faith in management in the near term the way we are set up to do ANYTHING right.

fishmike wrote:Briggs... for like what? 10? 12 years here we have often discussed a simple concept. Style of play. What kind of team are we building. Is there any thought into putting parts together that compliment, or is it a throw poop at the wall and hope the coach can make a picture with it?

That 54 games we won last year was misleading--this is a culture of losing proven over and over again for 14 years. Until the culture is changed the results will stay the same. Can you imagine G Steinbrenner with this team? It's funny but I sat two seats next to Steinbrenner at a Knicks game in I think it was 1991--I always remember that. I wouldnt even go there now with my kids--its been taken away from me. I root hard for something positive but as a true fan--a real true fan---you feel disgust. And for the guy who talks about last year who works for MSG--shut the fck up and GTFO. Dolan has overseen 14-15 terrible years--patience with Dolan---I dont wish bad things on people but lets hope his recent divorce puts some strain on those tight arteries he must have.

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:Briggs... for like what? 10? 12 years here we have often discussed a simple concept. Style of play. What kind of team are we building. Is there any thought into putting parts together that compliment, or is it a throw poop at the wall and hope the coach can make a picture with it?

That 54 games we won last year was misleading--this is a culture of losing proven over and over again for 14 years. Until the culture is changed the results will stay the same. Can you imagine G Steinbrenner with this team? It's funny but I sat two seats next to Steinbrenner at a Knicks game in I think it was 1991--I always remember that. I wouldnt even go there now with my kids--its been taken away from me. I root hard for something positive but as a true fan--a real true fan---you feel disgust. And for the guy who talks about last year who works for MSG--shut the fck up and GTFO. Dolan has overseen 14-15 terrible years--patience with Dolan---I dont wish bad things on people but lets hope his recent divorce puts some strain on those tight arteries he must have.

JROD? Papabear?

gunsnewing wrote:We will hire a new coach next year and squeak in the playoffs. No lottery pick

This team is good enough to just squeak in unless mike Woodson is your coach then u can secure a lottery pick

I won't stand for any playoff. I want a full on tank job next year end of story. Knicks got to the championship twice because if their overall number one pick. It's proven that this plan works.

BRIGGS wrote:What is the strategy of the knicks?

You give the Knicks too much credit. They have no strategy.

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:Briggs... for like what? 10? 12 years here we have often discussed a simple concept. Style of play. What kind of team are we building. Is there any thought into putting parts together that compliment, or is it a throw poop at the wall and hope the coach can make a picture with it?

That 54 games we won last year was misleading--this is a culture of losing proven over and over again for 14 years. Until the culture is changed the results will stay the same. Can you imagine G Steinbrenner with this team? It's funny but I sat two seats next to Steinbrenner at a Knicks game in I think it was 1991--I always remember that. I wouldnt even go there now with my kids--its been taken away from me. I root hard for something positive but as a true fan--a real true fan---you feel disgust. And for the guy who talks about last year who works for MSG--shut the fck up and GTFO. Dolan has overseen 14-15 terrible years--patience with Dolan---I dont wish bad things on people but lets hope his recent divorce puts some strain on those tight arteries he must have.

Your 100% correct. Dolan is the environment and the reason for 99% of what happens here. All our players regress. All our coaches and front office teams fail. We could do this all day, but this environment takes talent and squashes it. It takes good basketball people and renders them inept.

Its brutal. I feel it too man... only the success of the Yankees and Giants over the last 15 years have kept me from being demoralized. As a Met/Jet fan my heart honestly goes out to you man!

BRIGGS wrote:

misterearl wrote:The strategy of the Knicks is to turn a profit on their investment. So far it is working.

misterearl--. MSG is a diverse money-making mechanism located in the heart of the richest most populated site in the world--If you can show me something that Dolan did to make the team worth more than it should be--please point it out for me. The Knicks/MSG make money because of location location location. Lets get real.