SJUknicksfan wrote:Wow. Just brutal. Jimmer Fredette is just sitting out there and we pick up 2 scrubs. Story of the Knicks.

Jimmer is not a free agent yet and brown is only on a 10 day

Jimmer Fever

I honestly think Melo did NOT request to trade players like Iman/Chandler because he doesn't want any of them to leave NYK since he is deciding to leave himself
Melo has a conscience for some of his teammates, he doesn't want them to be moved if he isn't sure if he is even staying

There is a good chance that he joins the Heat if Lebron, Wade, Bosh, are all willing to take less, and continue to challenge the Pacer's together
Although Lebron could probably make many teams instinct title contender by himself, especially some teams with cap room, young players, draft picks this year and future, and cap room

Those Pacer's will be a tough team for the next decade though barring injury to Hibbert and George, with the addition of Turner, and 3m MLE to spend this summer

9-10 man rotation
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George Hill
Lance
George
West
Hibbert

Watson
Turner *wonder if they would offer Turner and some future picks for Bledsoe, that would really speed up their team, with the ability to play uptempo pace and/ half court
Scola *bit older, personally think Plumlee is better but he is still a solid vet*
Mahimi *under rated backup*

X factor = Bynum if he ever regains form, he has a Championship UNSELFISH TEAM to push/motivate him, with Hibbert to push each other in practice
Lavoy Allen *pretty solid 3rd string*

Copeland *if they ever want to use a stretch 4/5, going small*

Solomon Jones (probably next year will contribute but they are already so damn deep)

Nothing against Melo, he is a good scorer but the way he plays, his team mates are unable to play of his abilities to score with consistency
IF Melo is going to camp outside for 3pt shots, we need someone to attack the paint, with another F that can go both inside and out, something Clark could bring....

In no specific order,

Cole Alrich

Kmart though he probably is our best defender at the PF/C and best shot blocker (depending on injury and our ever game status)
Murry, doesn't seem like Woodson will ever give him a chance, despite being our best defender at both the PG and some SG, even when it is only 1 play left on DEF....

CrushAlot wrote:Hoping that because both guys are on ten day deals the Knicks drop brown if fredette becomes available. It certainly sounds like his family would like him back home. Also, bobby brown is in china for 12 more days. Maybe the Knicks are using Shannon to hold down the fort while shump is out and b brown becomes available.

Yeah maybe. I wonder if Shannon knows that. I wonder what line of crap they're telling him....LMAO, we're such a hot mess I can't take it anymore..

dk7th wrote:knicks are 21-36.

We have NO LEGIT SF/PF regardless, lets see how we play with one rather than playing a SG at SF, 2 PG's (Felton/Pablo) that cannot defend either PG or SG, or playing Melo at SF
That is just way too many weakness's inviting our opponents to force any mismatch on top of the constant SWITCHING in Woodson's flawed philosophy

with Melo/STAT/Chandler, this forces to camp outside the 3pt line and chuck shot after shot, without the ability to post up and/penetrate off the dribble, and his inability to defend SF's, especially SF's that can shoot and beat him off the dribble

The BIG 3 is just not a good fit, we have tried many times with little success...
STAT/Chandler are not good rebounders, defenders, or shot blockers, while Kmart actually was a decent shot blocker/defender and moved well without the ball
Kmart also could pass the alley hoop to Melo for the high/low post

DK, I agree we should have made trade at the deadline but we didn't

If Clark does well and we can sign him to a 2 year deal, getting his early bird rights in 2015, we can still trade Iman for Perry Jones and their late 1st rounder to draft either a PG or C

I agree with Briggs that these are 2 players that we should keep a close eye on, looking to acquire both if possible, and DEVELOP THEM *FIRING or DEMOTING WOODSON IS NEEDED FOR THIS TO HAPPEN effectively*

Deonte Burton
6-1
190
PG
Nevada

or

Jordan Bachynski
7-2
248
C
Arizona St.
Sr.

While we still would have the 3m MLE to use on maybe a PG or maybe Trevor Ariza

PG's include at 3m MLE
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Sessions
Collison
Bayless
Vasquez (RFA)
Mo Williams
Brian Roberts (RFA)

Vet Min
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Patty Mills
Bobby Brown
Kendall Marshall

Ridnour (not sure if he is done)
JJ Barea (still can penetrate and score, on top of staying in front of his man in limited minutes)

SF/PF
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James Johnson *I have been big on him for a couple years now, he looks like he has found a home in Memphis though they might not look to pay him

2014 minor Trades

Possibly trading for Pierre Jackson with 3m cash
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a player like Shannon Brown with 2nd year NON guaranteed

I think WHEN THE DRAFT IS OVER, we can spend another 3m in cash, to purchase the rights of another player

Isiah Thomas??? If the price is right or Greviez Vasquez if Lowry is kept in Toronto

I have a feeling we will try to do
2 unprotected 1st round picks in 2018 and 2020 AB for Rhondo *which I don't think would FIT with Melo and the lack of talent we have to compliment each other

Continue the development of Earl Clark, add James Johnson, maybe Ebanks, and some of the above players, in addition to hiring a competent development coach to also further the development of Jeremy Tyler, putting him in a work out program to lose weight/gain mobility/athleticism at PF/C, he has to come in at much better shape, we do have Tyler's bird rights afterall