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BRIGGS
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2/22/2014  10:17 PM
Is for Melo to leave. If melo leaves --dolan is forced into needing help
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2/22/2014  10:31 PM
Not sure that Dolan is ever forced into anything. It took years of incompetence and sabotaging of the franchise, a sexual harassment lawsuit and finally intervention from the commissioner before anything was done with Isiah. And then the guy that was hired was hired because he had a fondness for the perpetrator and reassigned him. Remember there were protests outside msg.
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2/22/2014  10:35 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Is for Melo to leave. If melo leaves --dolan is forced into needing help

I thimk we all know that Melo will get max contract and retire as a Knick, i believe that the worse is ahead of us, and not passed yet
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2/22/2014  10:49 PM
ok...let's put yourself in dolan's shoes.

what will he do this offseason? he will offer melo anything and everything to stay. he will give the keys to the franchise to him. do you believe melo will actually give up $30 mil and that type of juice card when his entire history says he's won't? maybe he changes and maybe he realizes he wants something else but there will be a guilt factor here as well. i say everyone sane person will say melo leaves, but we are dealing with insane egomaniacs - he will stay and dolan will let him do whatever he wants.

now, if melo stays or leaves, they will try their hardest to trade bargs + amare + chandler next season and throw in whatever they can to get another player as soon as possible. 2015 is a myth. they are going to try anything they can for next season.
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2/22/2014  11:43 PM
I think its best both in the short and long term.

If Melo leaves, what kind of panic move can they make? They don't have hardly anything worth anything to anybody. SO no deals, hopefully.

And hopefully knicks realize- develop young players and tank to maximize their draft position. And find such a stud that other players want to come here in FA in 2015.
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2/23/2014  3:49 AM
How do we feel about Steve Mills overseeing Melo's departure? That's my big thing...Is he savvy enough to milk the situation to the hilt and get us back the best possible package in return, pitting one interested team against another, multiple teams all at once, etc. Something like that requires a lot of work...I don't know about that. I kinda wish Dolan had some decent help in place beforehand..
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2/23/2014  4:06 AM
What is going to be further humiliating is "our" pick this year will end up being a franchise changing player.
And we are gonna give Melo 25 million a year or he will leave. LOSE LOSE situation.

Welcome to Joffrey land, where Dolan rules, coaches, trades and eats fans.
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2/23/2014  6:55 AM
JS3 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Is for Melo to leave. If melo leaves --dolan is forced into needing help

I thimk we all know that Melo will get max contract and retire as a Knick, i believe that the worse is ahead of us, and not passed yet


As a Knick's fan, I want Melo to stay. He's an all-star player that plays hard every game. If he goes, we'll have absolutely nothing for the next couple of years.

However, I think Melo may have had enough with this organization and he may leave if he gets a good offer from a team that has some chance of winning. We don't.

We need improved defense but we never play MWP who is still is pretty good defensively. We need a big improvement in PG play, and yet we don't give Beno a chance to play. He couldn't do any worse than what we have seen.

Then to top it off, we can't even trade Beno when other teams are very interested in him. or trade Metta WP. At least try to get a 2nd round pick instead of just letting them go.

The team and management seems to be in disarray and chaos.

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2/23/2014  7:01 AM
Markji wrote:
JS3 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Is for Melo to leave. If melo leaves --dolan is forced into needing help

I thimk we all know that Melo will get max contract and retire as a Knick, i believe that the worse is ahead of us, and not passed yet


As a Knick's fan, I want Melo to stay. He's an all-star player that plays hard every game. If he goes, we'll have absolutely nothing for the next couple of years.

However, I think Melo may have had enough with this organization and he may leave if he gets a good offer from a team that has some chance of winning. We don't.

We need improved defense but we never play MWP who is still is pretty good defensively. We need a big improvement in PG play, and yet we don't give Beno a chance to play. He couldn't do any worse than what we have seen.

Then to top it off, we can't even trade Beno when other teams are very interested in him. or trade Metta WP. At least try to get a 2nd round pick instead of just letting them go.

The team and management seems to be in disarray and chaos.

When it comes to melo it will hurt next year for sure BUT we will end up with a lottery pick in time for the 2015 free agnets class. I mean to eb fair Melo even though Melo is a great scorer he has had a bad record in the playoffs
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2/23/2014  7:27 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Is for Melo to leave. If melo leaves --dolan is forced into needing help

respectfully, disagree. Melo playing super hard, incredibly gifted as scorer, but, resigning him makes no sense. You cannot build around him - unfortuantely, for whatever reason, absent playing on Dream Team as pure shooter, he is unable to accomodate his game to others (see healthy Amare, MDA, etc).

Best i can tell Dolan tried - he paid (excessively) to combine two All Stars - Amare and Melo, and paid for end of career former greats (kidd, metta, etc). Nice season last year, dreadful this, but, no future in it.
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2/23/2014  7:59 AM
Re-signing him for what he's worth (maybe $15 mil a year) makes a lot of sense but that won't happen
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2/23/2014  10:32 AM
Not trading melo at the deadline will come back and bite Dolan. I know we will never come close to getting what we gave up but we could ahve gotten a few picks/young assets. The Good news is that next year we will be a lotery team and get a solid draft pick. then in 2015 we have a ton of cap space to get a few free agents
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2/23/2014  10:57 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Not trading melo at the deadline will come back and bite Dolan. I know we will never come close to getting what we gave up but we could ahve gotten a few picks/young assets. The Good news is that next year we will be a lotery team and get a solid draft pick. then in 2015 we have a ton of cap space to get a few free agents

What exactly did we give up besides a couple of young player and a couple of picks?

And sorry, the 2015 plan is the same as the 2010 plan...only players hunting for the money will come here.
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