This is facts. He's a spot up shooter. He's not a slasher. He's a young guy and he sucks in the open court. He cringes when he drives to the basket. This is pure facts.

All the talk about his defense and potential is complete bull****.

We could have traded him for a second rounder early in the year and picked up shannon brown. He's better than simp but wasnt even in the league until recently. It's a joke really. Why do fans hold on to bums just because they were a Draft pick.

Everyone is quick to bring out Thjrs flaws and saying he shouldn't start and bringing all these crazy starts to prove it, but can't believe their eyes when a dude is terrible because the dude can make a visit interview and sound like he can play, and had a rep for playing defense coming out of college.

I am absolutely tired of it.

anrst wrote:yea, the peremeter D is shumperts fault

Vmart wrote:Shump is a major reason why the Knicks suck.

Has Shump underperformed? Sure. Who, other than Melo, hasn't?

Shump is a quality player who has been **** on at every turn. All the while a guy like JR is coddled. How does that make sense?

Usually enjoy Briggs informative threads/posts bc I think he's the best poster on this site, but this thread is a joke. Sorry if that ruffles feathers.

i have faith in shumpert, granted he was not defending as well, but do you not think that woody's criticism of our best perimeter defender had something to do with it...?
woody was trying to save his own job and went after someone who is still a youngster instead of going after his vets. how do you think that made shump feel? if i was in his place, i'd feel a little less motivated to work my tail off for this coach, wouldn't you?

Cartman718 wrote:enyspree, vmart, jrodmc....
come on now... this was the only guy who could stop dwayne wade in our playoffs against them. how are you going to fault him for having ACL surgery and coming back a step slow. It take 18 months approximately to get back to 100% after an ACL surgery to where you can say there's no effect of the surgery left anymore.

i have faith in shumpert, granted he was not defending as well, but do you not think that woody's criticism of our best perimeter defender had something to do with it...?
woody was trying to save his own job and went after someone who is still a youngster instead of going after his vets. how do you think that made shump feel? if i was in his place, i'd feel a little less motivated to work my tail off for this coach, wouldn't you?

I blame Woody too. But Shump is mentally weak player. I never blame a player for injury but it has been two year now for Shump and he may never be as quick. But that is when a player develops other skill sets. Improve shooting. Efficiency in defensive positioning. These are thing Shump didn't improve in, knowing that he may not have the same explosion. I was big on Shump I thought he was going to be good player but he has regressed so much that he is worse than what he was in his first year.