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5/5/2004  6:05 AM

Considering the regularity with which the sun rises and sets every day, why is it most observers are always a day behind when it comes to getting a handle on the Phoenix Suns?

In 2002, the conventional wisdom was the Suns would be the worst team in West. They had traded away star Jason Kidd for the erratic Stephon Marbury, drafted a high school kid, Amare Stoudemire, to play power forward and had a gimpy, washed up Penny Hardaway playing small forward. Their starting group of power forwards -- Jake Voskuhl and Scott Williams -- induced snickers. An emerging Shawn Marion seemed like the only real selling point in Phoenix.

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That season was Marbury's best ever; Marion put up all-star numbers; Stoudemire became the first high school player ever to win Rookie of the Year; Hardaway found his groove; and Voskuhl and Williams combined to become a pretty decent presence in the middle. The Suns ended up in the playoffs and scared the heck out of the eventual world champion Spurs in the first round.

In 2003, the conventional wisdom said the Suns were the best young team in the league. Marbury had turned the corner and had just received a nice fat contract extension. Joe Johnson, after a stellar summer league performance, was ready to take over from Hardaway. Marion was now an all-star. Stoudemire had a shot at becoming an all-star. The draft had yielded two impressive prospects, Zarko Cabarkapa and Leandro Barbosa, who were supposed to step in and contribute immediately. The Suns were deep, athletic and poised to take on the big guns of the West.

Then disaster struck. Marbury became selfish again. Johnson was erratic, and Penny looked old. Marion's shot faltered. Stoudemire kept improving, but constant injuries kept holding him back. Cabarkapa went down with an early season injury. A trade of Bo Outlaw and Jake Tsakalidis to the Grizzlies backfired, and the Suns suddenly were too small to defend the paint. Frank Johnson lost his job. Assistant Mike D'Antoni took over. Then, GM Bryan Colangelo pulled the plug.

In the most shocking trade of the season, he sent Marbury and Hardaway to the Knicks for Howard Eisley, Antonio McDyess, Charlie Ward, Maciej Lampe, the rights to Milos Vujanic and the Knicks' No. 1 pick.

The hottest young team in the NBA just went up in smoke. As Suns fans freaked and commentators everywhere scratched their heads, Colangelo remained calm. The team had realized early in the season it wasn't going to win a championship with Marbury at the helm. His selfishness was already causing rifts in the locker room. With a huge extension under Marbury's belt, the Suns had to act quickly to trade him away while they still could.

In the process, the team slashed $31 million in payroll and actually positioned itself to be roughly $7 to $9 million under the cap this summer. Owner Jerry Colangelo subsequently put the team on the market and sold it within weeks of the regular season ending.

With new owners coming in (Colangelo remains the team's CEO, and his son, Bryan, remains the GM), a lottery pick, and lots of free-agent cash to spend this summer, the Suns have the potential to be one of the most improved teams in the league again next year.

How will they do it? Here's a look at what to expect as Insider continues its summer blueprint series.

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DRAFT: The Suns currently own the No. 6 pick in the draft, but all signs point to them attempting to move the pick this summer in an effort to clear more cap space.

That may change if the Suns get the No. 1 or No. 2 pick in the draft. However, with just a 6.4 percent shot at getting No. 1, that scenario is pretty unlikely. Drafting sixth, the team could find another point guard or a European big man to create depth, but the team really doesn't need either right now.

What the Suns really need is more cap room. That No. 6 pick amounts to a $2.1 million cap hold on their roster. The team would really like to package the pick along with Jahidi White (who makes $6.2 million in the last year of his deal) to a team with lots of cap room like the Bobcats. A trade like that could put them as much as $15 million under the cap next season.

FREE AGENCY: Free agency could be the key to the Suns' turnaround next season. The team wants to add a superstar in the backcourt to complement Stoudemire. If the Suns can figure out a way to trade their pick and White, they'll have plenty of money to throw at Kobe Bryant.


The Suns are hoping to have enough cap room to make a run at Kobe Bryant this summer.
If they can't clear the cap space, the Suns will likely look to either make another trade to land the star they've been looking for or use the money wisely to add a few missing pieces. They've had their eye on the Pistons' Mehmet Okur for some time and have enough cash to make him an offer the Pistons would be unlikely to match.

McDyess and Keon Clark both come off the books this summer, but neither is expected to be re-signed.

The other big news on the free agency front concerns Vujanic. Vujanic, widely considered the top point guard in Europe, is currently in Italy playing for one of the top teams in Europe. He's had an excellent season and now has a top U.S. agent who will be in charge of handling a buyout this summer.

Vujanic (who wisely turned down a chance to play for the dysfunctional Knicks last summer) sounds like he's ready to come to the NBA this year if the money is right. Expect the Suns to lure Vujanic here this summer. He'd be a great addition to their backcourt.

TRADES: Here is where things could get interesting. If the Suns can't clear the cap room or get turned down by Kobe, they have enough assets to make a great trade for a star if they want to. The Suns would likely be willing to part with their first-round pick, Marion and possibly even Johnson to land another star.

With star swingmen like Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter, Allen Iverson, Ray Allen, and, at the point, Steve Francis, all potentially available, the Suns would have a nice pool of players to pick from. The Magic would likely be the most interested in making a trade with the Suns.

The Magic would likely demand Marion, Johnson and the No. 1 for McGrady. Trading McGrady away would be tough to swallow in Orlando, but the two young swingmen plus the extra lottery pick would give the Magic a serious headstart in the rebuilding process in Orlando. If the Magic could turn their two number ones into Emeka Okafor and a point guard like Devin Harris or Ben Gordon, they would be in business with a very nice young core.

McGrady would be a great fit alongside Stoudemire in Phoenix. Throw in free agents like Okur, Vujanic and the rest of the Suns young players like Carbarkapa and Barbosa and the team would be ready to take off again.

COACHING: D'Antoni inherited a terrible situation in Phoenix and did the best with what he could. He's a good fit for the Suns. He likes to play an up-tempo type game and his European background has helped him relate to the plethora of international players on the Suns' roster. He's going to get another year to turn this thing around, and given D'Antoni's background, he may be able to do it.

FRONT OFFICE: Bryan Colangelo is one of the most underrated GMs in the league. He has a great eye for talent. The Suns have been one of the best drafting teams in the league over the past five years. He also has made solid decisions about cap management and rebuilding the team. Now that the ownership situation is taken care of (Bryan is now a part owner) his job should be secure and he can get busy rebuilding the Suns back into a contender.

If he can land a player of Kobe's or T-Mac's caliber this summer, the Suns should be able to hang with anyone in the West next year. If he has to settle for something less than that, the Suns still have enough talent to return to the playoffs next season. Either way, the future looks bright in Phoenix at the moment.

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5/5/2004  9:35 AM
Ive been reading Chad Ford for a couple years now and its pretty clear where his motives are. His job is to follow (and hype) prospects and generate buzz. He just loves to write about the potential blockbuster for every team. Does anyone really think Kobe is going to the Suns? Its already come out that the Laker would rather Kobe over Shaq AND Phil Jackson.

Gee.. think the Lakers might just keep their 25 year old superstar and trade Shaq? The guy that plays fewer games, gets fatter and has a lesser impact every year? Think they could get some good players for him?

So far Chad has had Kobe going to the Suns, Clippers and Hawks.
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5/5/2004  9:47 AM
and he's also biased against new york - constantly taking jabs at them like mitch lawrence. and chad is also a victim of the ill-used trade checker on realgm.
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5/5/2004  10:14 AM
Either with us or against us?

Knicks were dysfuntional last year with Laydens management.

Marbury is erratic in his career.

Why are those comments anti knick? Nobody said the Knicks got the short end of anything?

The Suns caught a lot of heat for the Marbury trade, but now suns fans are waking up the fact a better rebuild is possible taking a step or two back to open to more opportunity later.

Chad ford painted a nice future for the Suns.

Maybe some Knick fans are way to bias to see any objectivity.
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5/5/2004  10:20 AM
Posted by Nalod:

Either with us or against us?

Knicks were dysfuntional last year with Laydens management.

Marbury is erratic in his career.

Why are those comments anti knick? Nobody said the Knicks got the short end of anything?

The Suns caught a lot of heat for the Marbury trade, but now suns fans are waking up the fact a better rebuild is possible taking a step or two back to open to more opportunity later.

Chad ford painted a nice future for the Suns.

Maybe some Knick fans are way to bias to see any objectivity.

not in this article but every other article where chad talks about the knicks, he knocks them. i.e. saying isiah has failed as gm or lenny is the worst coach in the league, etc.
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5/5/2004  11:24 AM
Bad thing is that everybody see that trade as positive for the suns,as they bet on the future, and negative for the knicks as marbury is selfish.

Future is still unproven. as clipps, hawks, suns since barkley.
But betting on the future is always praised in this league.

marbury's carreer is full of flaws, but he's still young and represents our future as well. I firmly believe that if he's taught how to grow, he could become a great player.

Journalists just try to make waves and sell paper.



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5/5/2004  2:56 PM
Marbury is constantly getting slammed for being selfish- and the truth is he's a point guard who can flat out score and when he's been in situations where he is the best scorer, how often can he pass to teammates not worth anything?

If Marbury were a 2, no one would call him selfish.
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5/5/2004  3:29 PM
Fact is, Marbs is not a 2. He plays the point.

And he did not have any support this year at seasons end.

Jury is still out on him. Thats fair enough.
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5/5/2004  3:46 PM
the article is kind of silly because he gives Marbury great credit for the Suns success that year, then gives him great fault for their failure. "He became selfish again."

Was Marbury selfish taking those suspect 3's in game 4 of the Nets series or was that best shot we had considering how overmatched everybody else was. A lot of this is circumstance... Amare got injured early, so Marbury had to score more. We all know he's at his best when he creates for others first, then scores of that.

I think some of these guys look at box scores see a guy took 25 shots in a losing effort and mark him as selfish because the team lost.

Steph still has plenty of maturing to do... but he's certainly not the problem with this team.
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5/5/2004  4:17 PM
I'm convinced Chad Ford pleasures himself to thoughts of all Europe team. This is a guy who said a month ago that Darko was better than Carmelo NOW.

Ford is an absolute idiot, I can't believe people read what he has to write. I really can't stand reading him.

AND CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE explain Marbury's selfishness. The guy was SECOND in the NBA in assists last year. What does he do to qualify being selfish?

Chad Ford left out the fact that the Suns were selling the team, and wanted to trade their two biggest contracts (Penny and Marbury) for expiring ones so Colangelo's dad could sell the team.

I really can't wait for the day Marbury leads a team deep into the playoffs. He could lead the league in assists at 2000 a game and people would still say he's a shoot-first, selfish PG. I just don't get it.

The Suns will also need a lot of cap room b/c they need to sign Vujanic, who last year signed a multi-year deal with his team in Europe (he didn't play for the Knicks b/c he signed this deal) and he needs to buy himself out.

Down with Chad Ford.

[Edited by - bigsm00th on 05/05/2004 16:17:57]
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5/5/2004  4:29 PM
actaully he led the NBA in total assists. When you consider the two teams he was on thats impressive in itself.

You said it yourself.. he's got to lead a team (hopefully ours) deep into the playoffs.
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5/5/2004  6:36 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Nalod:

Either with us or against us?

Knicks were dysfuntional last year with Laydens management.

Marbury is erratic in his career.

Why are those comments anti knick? Nobody said the Knicks got the short end of anything?

The Suns caught a lot of heat for the Marbury trade, but now suns fans are waking up the fact a better rebuild is possible taking a step or two back to open to more opportunity later.

Chad ford painted a nice future for the Suns.

Maybe some Knick fans are way to bias to see any objectivity.

not in this article but every other article where chad talks about the knicks, he knocks them. i.e. saying isiah has failed as gm or lenny is the worst coach in the league, etc.

Chad Ford is just a guy that found his nitch. He is a complete idiot but he makes the same stupid predictions any of us make except he gets paid for it.

Mike Lupica is another one. He paints a picture.....his picture and always flips his opinions around from month to month.

Mitch Lawrence is the worst.....I hate reading his stuff.
Frank Isola is trying to get a TV gig......at least he's genuine.

Berman want's to be infamous. He wants to get the most contaversal story out. He wants the breaking news story.

Peter Vecey doesn't even write with sense anymore. He writes like he talks though except he seems to have more courage on paper than in public.

I never Read Stephen A. Smith. He's a jerk.

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5/5/2004  9:11 PM
"everyones stupid, I have not changed"

-Joe Walsh

Knicks are an easy target. Highest payroll, bad results.

It ain't the media. (sound like chris rock)

The media did not make the trades, the media did not take on 140 mil in contracts, the media does not have only 2 players coming off the books, etc etc.

Its new york, knicks under the microscope. And the Media gotta find the angle. And so long as they do, Dolans get all that free publicity.

Yeah, its the media...............
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5/6/2004  1:31 AM
Posted by raven:

Bad thing is that everybody see that trade as positive for the suns,as they bet on the future, and negative for the knicks as marbury is selfish.

Future is still unproven. as clipps, hawks, suns since barkley.
But betting on the future is always praised in this league.

marbury's carreer is full of flaws, but he's still young and represents our future as well. I firmly believe that if he's taught how to grow, he could become a great player.

Journalists just try to make waves and sell paper.


This is a problem with a lot of people, espcially ones who know little about basketball and the NBA, most feel if you are not a HS player or a 20 year old Euro player then you have no future, this is why guys like, Marquis Daniels, Josh Howard, Carlos Boozer go unpicked until late, and that is BS, when you look at their production these guys should have been lottery picks, instead teams are trading away young players not even in their primes, guys like Marbury, and Brand for unproven guys and so far have been getting burned. I do think the bulls would rather have brand back instead of the oft injured and underproducing , yet full of potential Tyson chandler... I can see why the bulls want to trash the rebuilding project... The NBA is a man's league..... Chad ford is another idiot, who will take pot shots at the knicks whenever he can, that coward...
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5/6/2004  9:21 AM
The bulls went for dynasty. Brand was deemed as a possible injury problem because of foot and back problems. Funny, it was tyson whom had it. They thought Artest was unmanagable. Wrong.

Suns bailed on Marbury as he is the most expensive and oldest piece of the wheel. For their situation, they did the smart thing, went with prospects.

The knicks had not raised tix prices in two years, but they needed to and did yesterday big time. They can point to marbury as a draw and reason to. Dolan had to make the Knicks relevant this season for business purposes.

The media did not raise prices.
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5/6/2004  9:22 AM
The bulls went for dynasty. Brand was deemed as a possible injury problem because of foot and back problems. Funny, it was tyson whom had it. They thought Artest was unmanagable. Wrong.

Suns bailed on Marbury as he is the most expensive and oldest piece of the wheel. For their situation, they did the smart thing, went with prospects.

The knicks had not raised tix prices in two years, but they needed to and did yesterday big time. They can point to marbury as a draw and reason to. Dolan had to make the Knicks relevant this season for business purposes.

The media did not raise prices.
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5/6/2004  9:43 AM
most feel if you are not a HS player or a 20 year old Euro player then you have no future, this is why guys like, Marquis Daniels, Josh Howard, Carlos Boozer go unpicked until late, and that is BS, when you look at their production these guys should have been lottery picks, instead teams are trading away young players not even in their primes, guys like Marbury, and Brand for unproven guys and so far have been getting burned.

That's why you da man TKF.

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5/6/2004  11:45 AM
A guy like boozer would never have a chance on the knicks prior to this year. But Sweets at the 10th pick gets a chance.

We need not have high draft picks to be successful, just a system of good scouting and leave room for opportunity for these guys to work in. Under the Star Phuching methoed, those players are either never drafted by us, traded, or left to rot and bounced out of the league instead. Guys getting run like frank, sweets, and Demarr give me some hope.
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5/6/2004  12:24 PM
Posted by Nalod:

The bulls went for dynasty. Brand was deemed as a possible injury problem because of foot and back problems. Funny, it was tyson whom had it. They thought Artest was unmanagable. Wrong.

Suns bailed on Marbury as he is the most expensive and oldest piece of the wheel. For their situation, they did the smart thing, went with prospects.The knicks had not raised tix prices in two years, but they needed to and did yesterday big time. They can point to marbury as a draw and reason to. Dolan had to make the Knicks relevant this season for business purposes.

The media did not raise prices.


you see that line of thinking is what upsets me, at 26 marbury was the oldest and most expensive piece of the wheel? yea steph is a whole year or 2 older than Marion, wow big deal.. the truth is marbury was the best piece in the wheel and would give them back the most, that is the truth, but again trading players like steph, proven players for prospects is the thing that is killing the competiton in the league, teams are always rebuilding, and always in the lottery and always rebuilding and always in the lottery... It is a bad cycle, building your team around hopes does not always work, the suns had two great PG's in both Kidd and steph and traded both of them... chances for players like this are rare, they will see that...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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