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NYY1NYK2
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2/12/2014  9:31 PM
I mentioned trading for fredette, and tonight he is lighting us up.

We need to trade shumpert, and felton for some picks, fredette and marcus thornton
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NYY1NYK2
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2/12/2014  9:32 PM
Aside from that, without melo this game wouldve slipped and we'd be down big
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2/12/2014  9:34 PM
I've been a big proponent of getting Jimmer Fredette. I'm glad that guys are seeing what he can do. While we're at it, we need to get Derrick Williams and Quincy Acy as well.
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2/12/2014  9:40 PM
Our team just stinks we really need to rebuild get some picks and get under the cap for the 2015 draft class
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2/12/2014  9:48 PM
Jimmer isnt perfect, but he light yrs better than felton. You dont stay on him and he makes u pay
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2/12/2014  9:53 PM
I just hope he gets off the Kings. The dude that just lit us up for 24 doesn't even get 15 minutes a game for the 17 win Sacramento Kings.
NYY1NYK2
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2/12/2014  10:19 PM
Fire woodson, trade felton. He phuckin sux
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2/12/2014  10:20 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Our team just stinks we really need to rebuild get some picks and get under the cap for the 2015 draft class

I agree - nothing short of trading for Lebron is going to help this team.

Good bye Mike Woodson. I don't know how you don't get fired after tonight's debacle.
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2/12/2014  10:29 PM
franco12 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Our team just stinks we really need to rebuild get some picks and get under the cap for the 2015 draft class

I agree - nothing short of trading for Lebron is going to help this team.

Good bye Mike Woodson. I don't know how you don't get fired after tonight's debacle.


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How did Woody loose this game?

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2/12/2014  10:35 PM
Hardaway will fill that role, think we need a PG first. Tonight being the latest example.
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2/12/2014  10:35 PM
Papabear wrote:
franco12 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Our team just stinks we really need to rebuild get some picks and get under the cap for the 2015 draft class

I agree - nothing short of trading for Lebron is going to help this team.

Good bye Mike Woodson. I don't know how you don't get fired after tonight's debacle.


Papabear Says

How did Woody loose this game?

Losing comes naturally to the unprepared. Mike Brown and Vinny Del Negro are the only two guys that I know of who never had actual plays to run. You and I could out-coach this trio because they don't actually coach.
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2/12/2014  10:36 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Hardaway will fill that role, think we need a PG first. Tonight being the latest example.

Fredette isn't a prototypical PG but he runs an offense better than any of our PG's at this point IMO.
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2/12/2014  10:44 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hardaway will fill that role, think we need a PG first. Tonight being the latest example.

Fredette isn't a prototypical PG but he runs an offense better than any of our PG's at this point IMO.

Prigs does a good job but too often its 4 on 5 because he won't take it to the rim. Haven't seen Fredette that much but I don't see him really running an offense. We need a good old fashioned floor general to make the most out of this mess
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2/12/2014  10:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2014  10:48 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hardaway will fill that role, think we need a PG first. Tonight being the latest example.

Fredette isn't a prototypical PG but he runs an offense better than any of our PG's at this point IMO.

Prigs does a good job but too often its 4 on 5 because he won't take it to the rim. Haven't seen Fredette that much but I don't see him really running an offense. We need a good old fashioned floor general to make the most out of this mess

The problem with Prigs is that you can't play him extended minutes. He'd be perfect if we had a legitimate and established starting PG. Because we don't he becomes irrelevant IMO.

And Fredette doesn't really run an offense, but Felton does nothing...at all. At least Fredette moves the ball and can keep a defense honest ala Jason Kidd from last year at the 2. That's more than I've seen from Beno and Felton all season.
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2/12/2014  10:58 PM
Actual Jimmer Fredette footage from tonight's game:

Dude looked like Jesus Shutlesworth out there. Knicks just refused to guard him at all.
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2/12/2014  10:59 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hardaway will fill that role, think we need a PG first. Tonight being the latest example.

Fredette isn't a prototypical PG but he runs an offense better than any of our PG's at this point IMO.

Prigs does a good job but too often its 4 on 5 because he won't take it to the rim. Haven't seen Fredette that much but I don't see him really running an offense. We need a good old fashioned floor general to make the most out of this mess

The problem with Prigs is that you can't play him extended minutes. He'd be perfect if we had a legitimate and established starting PG. Because we don't he becomes irrelevant IMO.

And Fredette doesn't really run an offense, but Felton does nothing...at all. At least Fredette moves the ball and can keep a defense honest ala Jason Kidd from last year at the 2. That's more than I've seen from Beno and Felton all season.

I agree about prigs. Felton looks good at times running the offense but he isn't consistent, not even close. Not saying Fredette couldn't help offensively, but I see a team that badly needs someone who is well versed in running an offense first and foremost.
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2/12/2014  11:10 PM
NYY1NYK2 wrote:I mentioned trading for fredette, and tonight he is lighting us up.

We need to trade shumpert, and felton for some picks, fredette and marcus thornton

sadly, lighting it up against the knicks is like looking at a college players' stats and assuming they will be a star.

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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2/13/2014  4:41 AM
PresIke wrote:
NYY1NYK2 wrote:I mentioned trading for fredette, and tonight he is lighting us up.

We need to trade shumpert, and felton for some picks, fredette and marcus thornton

sadly, lighting it up against the knicks is like looking at a college players' stats and assuming they will be a star.

Yup- every teams guard lights us up. If they don't then they must be an awful player.
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2/13/2014  6:18 AM
smackeddog wrote:
PresIke wrote:
NYY1NYK2 wrote:I mentioned trading for fredette, and tonight he is lighting us up.

We need to trade shumpert, and felton for some picks, fredette and marcus thornton

sadly, lighting it up against the knicks is like looking at a college players' stats and assuming they will be a star.

Yup- every teams guard lights us up. If they don't then they must be an awful player.

Would be awesome if we had the ability to land a top notch defender and and a top notch PG for a package of Felton, MWP even if it means throwing in a pick it. Those guys are hard to come by. Right Jimmy?

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2/13/2014  6:23 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Hardaway will fill that role, think we need a PG first. Tonight being the latest example.

Fredette isn't a prototypical PG but he runs an offense better than any of our PG's at this point IMO.

Prigs does a good job but too often its 4 on 5 because he won't take it to the rim. Haven't seen Fredette that much but I don't see him really running an offense. We need a good old fashioned floor general to make the most out of this mess

The problem with Prigs is that you can't play him extended minutes. He'd be perfect if we had a legitimate and established starting PG. Because we don't he becomes irrelevant IMO.

And Fredette doesn't really run an offense, but Felton does nothing...at all. At least Fredette moves the ball and can keep a defense honest ala Jason Kidd from last year at the 2. That's more than I've seen from Beno and Felton all season.

I agree about prigs. Felton looks good at times running the offense but he isn't consistent, not even close. Not saying Fredette couldn't help offensively, but I see a team that badly needs someone who is well versed in running an offense first and foremost.

If we kept Lin we wouldn't be worried about Felton and going after ferdette
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