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playa2
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1/31/2014  6:37 AM
Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins and a future second-round draft pick for Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert, Raymond Felton and the right to swap future first-round draft picks.

COMMENTARY | Through the first half of the NBA season, much has been made about how the New York Knicks have grossly underachieved.

Del Pearson is a lifelong Knicks follower from Upstate New York. His favorite players of all time are Walt Frazier and Carmelo Anthony. Follow Del on Twitter @DelPearson44.


Entering the campaign with title aspirations, things have clearly not gone as planned as the Knicks would find themselves out of the playoffs if the season ended today. Notwithstanding this, and some terrible performances along the way, the news of the Knicks' demise has been far overblown.

Their struggles are not representative of a systematic breakdown like so many other disappointing teams in the Eastern Conference, such as having a terribly mismatched roster (Detroit Pistons), being a bit too old (Brooklyn Nets) or being a bit too young (Cleveland Cavaliers).

Instead, the Knicks' struggles can be easily fixed by addressing two main issues: an unhealthy frontcourt and inconsistent point-guard play. Both of these issues can be addressed in one fell swoop by acquiring Russell Westbrook from the Oklahoma City Thunder. I am not suggesting either a fantasy trade for New York that Oklahoma City would never agree to or something that would not be possible under the NBA's salary-cap rules.

Rather, there is a realistic trade possibility that would both catapult the Thunder into the driver's seat in the Western Conference and position the Knicks to challenge the Indiana Pacers and Miami Heat in the East: Russell Westbrook, Kendrick Perkins and a future second-round draft pick for Tyson Chandler, Iman Shumpert, Raymond Felton and the right to swap future first-round draft picks.

Why the Thunder Would Do It

Beyond any doubt, one of the main drags on the Thunder's starting lineup has been Perkins. His general lack of athleticism is not a fit with the fast-paced Thunder. This would be cured tenfold with the addition of Chandler, an athletic rim protector who will provide the team protection when Serge Ibaka strays out of the paint.

Also, any veteran leadership lost with Perkins would be made up for with former NBA champion Changer. At the same time, Shumpert would fill a need for an athletic two-guard and Felton can slide in and provide depth as the backup point guard.

While Westbrook has been out injured, Reggie Jackson has played at an extremely high level and appears ready to take over as the regular starting point guard. This will more than soften the blow of losing Westbrook. Plus, cutting ties with him now would once and for all quiet the "can Kevin Durant and Westbrook co-exist" talk that seems to distract the team every postseason.

Why the Knicks Would Do It

For the Knicks, the benefit is obvious: Westbrook would be by far the best point guard to call Madison Square Garden home since Walt "Clyde" Frazier. He would provide a sense of athleticism that the Knicks desperately need at the position, and create the kind of matchup nightmares they are usually faced with against teams with better point guards.

Perhaps even more importantly, Westbrook's arrival as a bona-fide star would further reduce the already small chance that Carmelo Anthony would leave the Knicks in free agency in the offseason, seeing that Westbrook is currently signed to a long-term deal. Finally, Westbrook would thrive under the bright lights on Broadway with his impeccable style and likable personality.

As great as Chandler has been for the Knicks, the fact remains that they have too many big guys on the roster for too few minutes. With Chandler gone, and once Amar'e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin get healthy, head coach Mike Woodson will have reason to employ a small lineup to give many teams trouble with the speed of Westbrook and company. Perkins would essentially be a throw-in but could provide some depth on the Knicks' second unit, which generally does not push the ball much anyways.


Finally, having to give up a first-round draft pick hasn't been an impediment for the Knicks in the past and would certainly not be when it comes to acquiring a superstar like Westbrook.

Assuming that Westbrook is able to return to the court soon, it doesn't make sense for the Knicks not to make a run at him. By acquiring such a superstar point guard, it is clear that the Knicks would quickly shoot towards the top of the Eastern Conference. Not only would that save this season, but it would also go a long way towards keeping Anthony in New York to build a budding dynasty around the two stars.

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playa2
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1/31/2014  6:46 AM
Westbrook does fit the mold of an injured superstar signing on with the knicks.
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1/31/2014  7:03 AM
That trade is ridiculous. Westbrook is a top 10 player and we get him
For our scraps plus a SWAP of 1st rounders? Pls. Pass the crack or whatever this guy is smoking cause it's good ish.
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1/31/2014  7:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2014  9:29 AM
H1AND1 wrote:That trade is ridiculous. Westbrook is a top 10 player and we get him
For our scraps plus a SWAP of 1st rounders? Pls. Pass the crack or whatever this guy is smoking cause it's good ish.

These injuries have sideline some of the most athletic pg's in the game today, D.Rose, R.Westbrook Brandon Roy etc.. with all the money invested in them will they ever come back and be the same player they use to be ?

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1/31/2014  7:46 AM
who the hell is del pearson
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1/31/2014  8:20 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:who the hell is del pearson

Playa perhaps by accident included the name of a cut and paste for a change. He is just a guy writing on the internet and as such somtimes simple folk give it more credence because they believe what they read.

Getting Westbrook on 7th ave would be great for both him and Knicks, but the key for OKC has to be that they can win NOW with Tyson in the middle without Westbrook.

Im not sure Mr. Del outside of Westbrook-Tyson has the right mix to get a deal done but its just a fan posting an idea. You have a lot of things to consider one of which has to be the time table of things. Throw away this season as Tyler is not ready for starters minutes in the NBA, and is there cap space to bring in a third cog in 2015?

Can we do a Melo-Love-Westbrook thing in 2015?

Westbrook is damaged goods and I don't know the outlook on him so a trade proposal is hard to gauge.

IT gets good marks as a Starphuch type knick deal but the key to this is Tyson being a championship piece for OKC and they willing to cash in an asset to make it happen now.

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1/31/2014  8:48 AM
I doubt the Thunder do it and I think we'd be the better for it. I still think Westbrook is the direct beneficiary of playing on such a talented team with a first ballot Hall of Famer. Take him off it and I think everyone would rightfully view his play as being overrated and cancerous.
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1/31/2014  8:48 AM
The only way they'd do this trade is if they know his knee is much worse than we realize, in which case I don't want to do the trade.
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1/31/2014  8:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2014  9:38 AM
Westbrook may end up being just like Derrick Rose. Too often injured to finish a career. Tyson Chandler would be a good pickup for the Thunder. Perkins is not very good.

OKC's medical department knows Westbrooks injuries and how severe they may be.

I remind my self of Brandon Roy who was an all-star for Portland who never came back from bone on bone diagnosis. He lacked cartilage between the bones.

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1/31/2014  8:56 AM
NardDogNation wrote:I doubt the Thunder do it and I think we'd be the better for it. I still think Westbrook is the direct beneficiary of playing on such a talented team with a first ballot Hall of Famer. Take him off it and I think everyone would rightfully view his play as being overrated and cancerous.

YOu look for players and chemistry.

Westbrook reminds me of Byron Scott. Good player that could do a lot of things, very athletic but not a star.

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1/31/2014  8:57 AM
playa2 wrote:Westbrook may end up being just like Derrick Rose. Too often injured to finish a career. Tyson Chandler would be a good pickup for the Thunder. Perkins is not very good.

OKC's medical department knows Westbrooks injuries and how severe they may be.

I remind my self of Brandon Roy who was an all-star for Portland who never came back from bone on bone diagnosis. He lacked cartilage in the bones.

Why would we want to assume that risk, especially on an inefficient chuck that is suppose to be your PG?

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1/31/2014  8:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2014  9:01 AM
I didn't say I would want it, we just have a history of going for big named players like LJ, Amare etc... who came to us with skill , but damaged goods
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1/31/2014  9:01 AM
Nalod wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I doubt the Thunder do it and I think we'd be the better for it. I still think Westbrook is the direct beneficiary of playing on such a talented team with a first ballot Hall of Famer. Take him off it and I think everyone would rightfully view his play as being overrated and cancerous.

YOu look for players and chemistry.

Westbrook reminds me of Byron Scott. Good player that could do a lot of things, very athletic but not a star.

I agree with that assessment. The problem is that no one can tell him he is not a star. The dude consistently freezes out Kevin Durant as though he's a scrub. What's he going to do on this team with the terrible players we've got (save Melo, who is still an inferior player to Durant)? I think he'll play himself out of the league before he begins to defer and develop any semblance of basketball intelligence.

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1/31/2014  9:28 AM
If the Thunder did that all the okc fans will all spontaneously combust
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1/31/2014  9:31 AM
EnySpree wrote:If the Thunder did that all the okc fans will all spontaneously combust

Not if the guy keeps falling off the wagon and get hurt.

So the question becomes how long do you stick with a player who's continually hurt ?

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1/31/2014  9:33 AM
NardDogNation wrote:
Nalod wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:I doubt the Thunder do it and I think we'd be the better for it. I still think Westbrook is the direct beneficiary of playing on such a talented team with a first ballot Hall of Famer. Take him off it and I think everyone would rightfully view his play as being overrated and cancerous.

YOu look for players and chemistry.

Westbrook reminds me of Byron Scott. Good player that could do a lot of things, very athletic but not a star.

I agree with that assessment. The problem is that no one can tell him he is not a star. The dude consistently freezes out Kevin Durant as though he's a scrub. What's he going to do on this team with the terrible players we've got (save Melo, who is still an inferior player to Durant)? I think he'll play himself out of the league before he begins to defer and develop any semblance of basketball intelligence.

Durant looks like he is taking his game to the next level, enough maybe for him to have the confidence to check Westbrook when he starts acting like he is the best player on the team. I guess we'll find out when Westbrook gets back.

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1/31/2014  9:35 AM
I like my PGs to be athletic on defense and grounded on offense. If I'm building a team I'm looking at PGs like Rubio, Dragic and Rondo. Players that are more team oriented. Knicks fans will get sick of PGs like Rose and Westbrook they have no conscience when they are hot they look damn good whe. They are not they look horrible.
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1/31/2014  9:37 AM
1) Del Pearson lists Carmelo Anthony as one of his favorite players. UK death knell right there.
2) Does Russell Westbrook possibly remind anyone of Stevie Franchise on steroids?
3) Has Mr. Upstate Pearson wondered if the Thunder have noticed that their great Perkins replacement Tyson has missed more games than he plays in?
4) So we trade an oft-injured 5 for an oft-injured 1?

We now return you to your regularly scheduled "JLin is what we need" program...

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1/31/2014  9:40 AM
At a second look....

The Thunder have been playing it off their minds without Westbrook. They actually do need what Tyson brings. They have Reggie Jackson who is a stud. They have Lamb who is a stud. They could use Felton of the bench, and they could have use for Shump as an extra defender. They would be playoff ready at that point.

The knicks actually need what Westbrook brings. I think he fits well with Melo as a legit second option. We have the shooters and finishers around Westbrook.

Trade would probably put the Thunder and the knicks in the finals this year.

But the only way this happens is if I sell my sole to the matrix and give up the coordinates to Zion

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1/31/2014  9:43 AM
playa2 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:If the Thunder did that all the okc fans will all spontaneously combust

Not if the guy keeps falling off the wagon and get hurt.

So the question becomes how long do you stick with a player who's continually hurt ?

He's been plagued by injuries for half of one season.

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