CrushAlot wrote:RonRon wrote:The losing, the decaying roster, has inspired 'Melo to consider closely the possibilities of free agency this summer. WIthin the past several weeks, a longtime confidant of Carmelo Anthony confesses, something changed. Never did he believe there was a chance Anthony would leave the New York Knicks – never the Madison Square Garden stage, never the $129 million contract extension. Only now, the gloom of the Knicks' season – the uncertainty of the franchise's future – left that man to believe it's possible Anthony could leave New York in free agency. Yahoo! Sports"Chicago is much more in play for him than L.A.," the source said. Yahoo! Sports
Knicks ownership has turned the franchise over to him, and that'll only escalate in free agency. Whatever he wants, they'll give him. Owner Jim Dolan let him run out Mike D'Antoni and Jeremy Lin, let him have his eccentric workout coach on staff for a significant six-figure salary. They've centered the marketing on him; his Jordan Brand Nike deal is worth a mint in a Knicks uniform. Yahoo! Sports
During the summer, on a promotional trip to China with Jordan Brand, Anthony told friends, "There's no way I'm leaving New York," a person close to him told me recently. Of course, at that point, the Knicks were coming off a 54-win season and had reason to harbor a legitimate belief that they would be joining Indiana in hunting down Miami in the East for a shot at the NBA Finals. CBSSports.com
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So we have heard Lakers/Clippers earlier while we were losing, now we are hearing Chicago but Carmelo never imagined ever leaving NYC, MSG, and most importantly $129m *and all teams are big market for endorsements*
All coming out AFTER his 62 point performance in MSG
Honestly, how can we surround him with the talent needed to CONTEND if he OPTs out 1 year early, despite ALL THE FA's in 2015?
If he does opt out of his 23-25m$ deal and expects more money than that at a multiyear deal, I hope he would rather just walk to another team, I don't see another team coming close to that amount, not a contender and big market team at least....
I think Sun's are the closests to be able to put in a BIG salary for for him but they are not a large market team and despite their winning record, they have EMPTY seats, so they might be willing to pull the trigger
He could have kept it to himself about opting out rather than creating all this hype around him but of course he wants the spotlight and be able to see if there is interest around the league, crating leverage vs Dolan till our record spoke for itself
He wants the best of all WORLDS in terms of $$$ and doesn't care about the future and ability to contend, at least that is the lowest of his priority
After realizing, NYK is the best team that could offer him the most money THIS SUMMER, "There is no way I'm leaving NYK"
He calls what Lebron, Wade, and Bosh did as "SMART" but he has the ability to recruit similar talents in 2015 if he REALLY wants to win with all the UFA's available
So if he does OPT out and resigns a max deal, did he just call himself an idiot, or just $$$ hungry?
I am saying it now, if he resigns to anything close to a MAX deal in NYK THIS SUMMER, we are done for the next 6 years at least (probably 10 years, we will probably send picks up to 2030 to continue to try to build around him with limited salary
And he will break down, get fat, get lazy, point fingers, and still want all the glory.....
Oh btw, whatever happened to Melo's liquid diet, that he claimed to do ALL THE TIME, after he loss his cool with KG over the whole "Honey Nut Cheerios" incident
I know a BS artist when I see one and I am sick of his BS
Really, it took you nearly half a season to come out to play with some passion?
62 points and he is happy! look at our record, wake the F up, that is why he is NOT a leader
I think basically you are saying you don't like the guy. I don't know Melo. I do have a friend who is friends with Jason Kidd and he has said that Kidd says Melo is a great guy, an amazing player, and the reason he chose ny. On a side note he told me he will take me to kidd's hof ceremony. I will post pictures. In regards to last nights game, have to ask if you watched the game. Melo had his head down during time outs wasn't smiling and basically said he was sick of losing and wasn't going to tolerate it anymore. Nothing about Melo's body language or his words indicated he was happy with his performance during the game or even after. He just wanted a win. Since Tyson has been back all of the good that happened on the texas trip disappeared. Not many players can get so locked in that they can do what Melo did. In regards to his diet, he said he wasn't doing it this year. Not sure why but my guess is that he knows he is weaker when he does it. Melo has had to get his points in the post this year. Last night was more like the beginning of last season where his jump shot was unstoppable. Hopefully he has that back for the rest of the season.
In the game he was serious, after the game, on the bench, in the post game interviews, he was happy
Listen, he had a great game, good for him, but if he was a real leader, he would let his team mates know, this is NOT more important than a W and we have to continue to W and get back in the Atlantic Division hunt before the All Star break
A couple years back, when Indiana beat Miami in game one I believe, think 2 or 3 years ago, while Lance Stephenson was still 10th-12th man talking smack to The Heat
The team got all happy when they won game 1 and David West grabbed his team and said, "LETS GO" in a serious tone, and "ACT LIKE WE HAVE BEEN THERE"
"We still have a series to finish" so winning one game was great and instead of letting Miami use that as motivation to kick their buts in the series, come out and finish the series before you start celebrating....
Now that is a leader, a veteran, and Melo is suppose to be one with his experience in the league, but he is NOT, he is a STAT whore, and put's his numbers above ALL
That was why he Billups was needed for him to advance to the 2nd round in Denver and Kidd was so important with Wallace, Thomas, and Camby last season
But the truth is, we need TALENT to go with leadership, and Melo being a veteran at this point of his career still DOES NOT understand that
A true franchise talent is a player that is a leader, a 2 way defender, a clutch player that delivers when needed most, a player that makes his team mates better and gets them involved first to build their confidence up, establishing them first because he has the talent to get his whenever he wants, a player that puts WINNING above all and makes his entire team understand it
Because of his talent and abilities, his actions and words both on and off the court, hold more value than any other player and sometimes even the HEAD Coach at times, especially with a crappy coach like Woodson
It is fine, he is a volume scorer, and he isn't what he thinks he is, a franchise building block
He wants max money at 20-30m with a max extension to stay in NYK, well with that max contract comes a lot more responsibility
If he doesn't have those abilities, isn't a 2 way player, an AVERAGE DEFENDER AT BEST, isn't a leader, doesn't make his team mates better, doesn't put the work needed both on and off the court *in the BEST POSSIBLE NBA SHAPE*, then he shouldn't demand a max extension, especially with the NEW CBA and his max $ being HALF of the entire TEAMS salary
He made the max possible $$$ already in his NBA career, but he continues to want to point the finger with the lack of talent, well, he wants talent, he wants to win, then he needs to sacrifice
He has consistently shown that he DOES NOT WANT TO CHANGE for the better of the team, unable to provide the leadership qualities, unable to make his team mates better *while Jeremy Lin did with HORRIBLE TALENT with him* but refused to even consider to adapt with him for the better of the team, but wanted all the glory/high lights
Easy, GET THE TALENT and LEADERS needed.... don't cry me a river because you forced your way to NYK when you could have signed with them in the off season or give them total leverage in trades with a simple statement "I AM NOT RESIGNING with ANY TEAM BUT NYKs"
But he is repeating the same crap but at a higher salary....
What if Melo does the same thing the next 5 years and gives up, decides to eat whatever he wants/gets fat, doesn't come in to NBA shape, and injuries/physical abilities decline
He already lacks IQ, lacks the ability to make other around him better, or should I see is not a facilitator and does not play a style in which his team mates can consistently play off his abilities but refuses to take anything less or play another style even though he had a shoulder injury *SHOOTING 30 shots a game*
while in game 6, Iman, Copeland, JR, were the ones that brought us back from a BLOW OUT
But as soon as he went in, HE WAS DETERMINED to be the "HERO" forcing 1v1 while Paul George 1v1 and Hibbert patrolling to paint have shown to have the ability to make him take low % shots
Instead of letting the play develop, playing in the flow of the game, demand the ball, force the shot, and believe you can hit any shot as long as you can get the shot off
And that is why the main reason why he NEVER got out of the 1st round of the playoffs except once in Denver and once in NYK
Like TFK and DK say, he is fools gold when playoff time comes
He knew Copeland complimented him more with Hibbert and Chandler being "out of of shape" but did NOT tell Woodson that
Instead he threw his ex old team mate in Lin (still his team mate at the time) right under the buss as soon he heard his deal *FIRST TIME EVER DONE IN THE ENTIRE SPORTS HISTORY, along with trading half a team for 1 player*
Which was very unprofessional and unethical, more importantly illustrating his true colors, lack of character, and jealousy in his own team mate (all while he is complaining he needed talent around him)
So yes, I don't like him, but that has NOTHING to do with why I don't want him for a MAX extension
I have always thought he was too in to himself, ****y, and selfish
His actions over the course of the years in NYK have only proven me right, time after time....
I do think he is talented in some areas, a volume scorer, I don't think he is nearly as good as HE thinks he is
He needs much more talent around him than he gives his team credit for with a COACH that sticks it to him with his lack of IQ and poor shot selection to motivate him
Over the course of Woodson and Dolan, they enabled him and it is completely frustrating
NO ONE is bigger than the game themselves, NOT STAT is more important than a W, there are a lot of things that are not accounted for with NUMBERS on the court, and sacrificed need to be made, which he clearly does no understand and I am not sure if he ever will