playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

playa2 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

playa2 wrote:This team plays like the personality of the head coach and his assistants. NO BRAINER.

Again cant just balme teh coach. We dont have the talent to be a contender

When you get a superior coach in here who doesn't play favorites or who doesn't play to the team strengths you get what you see. These guys are better than what they are showing.

Maybe but not much better

They're MUCH better than they've shown! A good coach would have this talent at least playing to its potential. This is WAY BELOW this teams potential.

What did he do his first two years in ny? The only guy to win anything since jvg

Woody had player coaches on the team, no brainer there

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

playa2 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

playa2 wrote:This team plays like the personality of the head coach and his assistants. NO BRAINER.

Again cant just balme teh coach. We dont have the talent to be a contender

When you get a superior coach in here who doesn't play favorites or who doesn't play to the team strengths you get what you see. These guys are better than what they are showing.

Maybe but not much better

They're MUCH better than they've shown! A good coach would have this talent at least playing to its potential. This is WAY BELOW this teams potential.

What did he do his first two years in ny? The only guy to win anything since jvg

Woody had player coaches on the team, no brainer there

Um they sucked under D'Antoni but turned things around when he took over. I agree that the vet presence helped a lot last year but I think the biggest difference was with JR.

They dogged it during the end of D'antoni's run. That's why a coach resigns. So Woodson picked up the mantle and Melo turned up his game. They still talk about how he took them into the playoffs. Him, Lin and JR. Now, with Woodson totally in charge, having forsaken any semblance of SSOL and a brain fart on defense gets you this crappy brand of b-ball.

Sangfroid wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

playa2 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

playa2 wrote:This team plays like the personality of the head coach and his assistants. NO BRAINER.

Again cant just balme teh coach. We dont have the talent to be a contender

When you get a superior coach in here who doesn't play favorites or who doesn't play to the team strengths you get what you see. These guys are better than what they are showing.

Maybe but not much better

They're MUCH better than they've shown! A good coach would have this talent at least playing to its potential. This is WAY BELOW this teams potential.

What did he do his first two years in ny? The only guy to win anything since jvg

Woody had player coaches on the team, no brainer there

Um they sucked under D'Antoni but turned things around when he took over. I agree that the vet presence helped a lot last year but I think the biggest difference was with JR.

They dogged it during the end of D'antoni's run. That's why a coach resigns. So Woodson picked up the mantle and Melo turned up his game. They still talk about how he took them into the playoffs. Him, Lin and JR. Now, with Woodson totally in charge, having forsaken any semblance of SSOL and a brain fart on defense gets you this crappy brand of b-ball.

dk7th wrote:good litmus test game for the knicks. this puts the knicks situation in some real perspective. 15-24

the pacers have a great team. must be fun to be a pacers fan with years of relevance and contending to look forward to. granger buying in.

wow.

kudos to donnie walsh, larry bird, frank vogel for creating a winning culture.

love him or hate him the knicks have got to get rid of carmelo anthony some way somehow... 5 weeks away and maybe we will see the end of the melo era.
bye-bye melo.

just a huge mistake and waste of time and money. time to press the reset button.

EXACTLY.. you know what dk I was scolded on realgm for wanting a team full of guys who were not superstars but very good players... now those same people are talking about not having enough "good guys" on this team.. LOL... Great teams win, great players make great teams.. we certainly can learn a lesson from the pacers.

I agree, time to hit the reset button.. now!! bye melo!!

and please don't blame woodson. bargs hasn't dragged anyone away from the basket all season..

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

You know some people on the forum are real nut cases. Here they are comparing the Pacers front office to the Knicks. Say Lets press the reset button. Then what? Just because the Pacers have a good team does not mean we will have one. Oh so TKF is putting his faith in Dolan now. Melo is our franchise player and getting rid of Melo will not help this team. Tonight Amare got hurt Martin got hurt , world peace is hurt. We need to rebuild and be smart about it. The only way we win is if get a great point guard and another superstar. And by the way if the Pacers don't win it this year you will see this Pacers team breaking down. Lance Stevenson will get offers he can't refuse in big Markets so will other Pacers so they better win it this year.And they won't. They will come close but they must face the LeBron, Wade, and Bosh factor and they won't win.

hey it is called addition by subtraction. .get carmelo out of here and change the culture to a winning one... I have no faith in dolan, I feel if the knicks ever win, it will be in spite of dolan.. but that won't happen with this team... no way, no how.. not good enough..

Clean wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

Clean wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Alan Hahn ‏@alanhahn 1m

Melo has officially had it with Ray. He's now as frustrated with his teammates as we've seen him.

Join the club Melo

The players should have thought about that when they were so eager to push Lin out.

This Lin worship is pathetic. One more time; Lin didn't want to be here. He didn't come back in the playoffs. He took his matched contract to be altered. Once again; Lin didn't want to be here

Lin had no say in if he could leave or stay. That is the nature of restricted contracts. The Knicks had the option to sign him and they chose not to. I can not blame a person who was one month from being out of the league for getting as much money as he can.

Lin started this season hot, but he hasn't really played well since he returned from injury. Also only averaging 4 assists.

tkf wrote:

dk7th wrote:good litmus test game for the knicks. this puts the knicks situation in some real perspective. 15-24

the pacers have a great team. must be fun to be a pacers fan with years of relevance and contending to look forward to. granger buying in.

wow.

kudos to donnie walsh, larry bird, frank vogel for creating a winning culture.

love him or hate him the knicks have got to get rid of carmelo anthony some way somehow... 5 weeks away and maybe we will see the end of the melo era.
bye-bye melo.

just a huge mistake and waste of time and money. time to press the reset button.

EXACTLY.. you know what dk I was scolded on realgm for wanting a team full of guys who were not superstars but very good players... now those same people are talking about not having enough "good guys" on this team.. LOL... Great teams win, great players make great teams.. we certainly can learn a lesson from the pacers.

I agree, time to hit the reset button.. now!! bye melo!!

To be fair, according to someones sig, you also said this on realgm:

TKF wrote:
carmelo doesn't exist to me.. really bro... I have given him the TKF amnesty. I won't refer to him, acknowledge him or discuss him.....

tkf wrote:Oh BTW nixluva... what happened to Bargs pulling Hibbert away from the basket...

and please don't blame woodson. bargs hasn't dragged anyone away from the basket all season..