But they have beaten the Spurs, beaten the Heat, played hard, passed better lately, defended better. Woodson didn't become a good coach because he'd finally had enough of Smith, a player he needed last season when the Knicks were winning the Atlantic. He's not a good coach because Iman Shumpert found his game, after the false narrative that somehow Woodson was the one who made him lose

- Mike Lupica

Given their recent performance, despite the numerous injuries and rumors, does any coach patch a rotation together better than Mike Woodson?

Refusing to comment on the status of JRSmith is appropriate for the situation.

Knicks have a lot of problems, but its coach is not one of them.

Somehow the team had turned it back on and they look better than last season at times. Woodson is still overly reliant I on veterans and refuses to play younger guys. He still has our key players playing almost 40 minds a night. He is still the worst coach at making adjustments coming out of a time out. He still runs zero plays and runs unorganized isolation plays for Carmelo even when other guys have it going.

If Amare didn't have a minutes restriction he would be averaging 40 minutes a Game too.

Glad we turned it around but we can't be blind to our flaws cuffs we still have them

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Woodson is doing a better job but still likely gets fired after the season. Too many late game mistakes to not put some blame on the coach. Also, yes this team has many flaws, but any decent coach should at least keep this team above a .500 record, it's not that hard with the overall talent here.

What talent? For most of the season, our second best player was a guy who Toronto wanted to amnesty

Regardless of how cynical they've made you, this team definitely has enough talent to play above .500.

Woodson screwed around w/ the rotation and guy's minutes way too much early on. Those things should have been figured out beforehand and is a huge reason they are even in this hole. Add that to JR's idiocy, Shump's mental state and Tyson's flu-like symptoms and it's a nice mixture for this 14-22 start.

Even so, they will still make the playoffs, but I will not be mad one bit if Woodson gets the hook. Especially if reports come to fruition about Thibs and there are no tampering charges.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:What talent? For most of the season, our second best player was a guy who Toronto wanted to amnesty

Not to get off topic too much, but the supposed amnesty of Bargs is very much a media/fan inspired rant. Toronto would not have benefited at all from that move, and its obvious that he had/has some trade worth.

Yeah, some worth as a 7th man perhaps. You won't see a player like him in the starting lineup of a top team like the Spurs though. And your situation is a disaster if he's your #2.

This notion that Bargs is for some reason supposed to be the Knicks 2nd star is stupid, unfounded and just some poor and uninformed tactic to dog this roster and team by those who have made it clear its their agenda to do so.

In terms of importance, impact and need for good play? Knicks go as these guys go first:
1) Melo 2) Felton 3) Tyson 4) Shumpert and I ommited JR for my own personal gratitude

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Woodson is doing a better job but still likely gets fired after the season. Too many late game mistakes to not put some blame on the coach. Also, yes this team has many flaws, but any decent coach should at least keep this team above a .500 record, it's not that hard with the overall talent here.

What talent? For most of the season, our second best player was a guy who Toronto wanted to amnesty

This team is flawed, but no one in their right mind thinks this team isn't good enough to play above .500 basketball. If this team can't sleepwalk to .500 then there is serious issues, coaching not an exception. Toronto amnestying Bargnani would have been something other than a basketball talent decision if it happened.

helloharv wrote:Shump is a huge reason for this turnaround.

Thank you.

Swap out more than half of your rotation and it requires at least 2-3 months to learn tendencies, preferences and trust.

Even Miami struggled with blending lite talent.

misterearl wrote:Coaches cannot shoot, rebound or pass.

and since they can't do any of those things, they better do what they are supposed to do right, which is: get the most out of their roster, create successful plays in timeouts and have control over their players. woodson has failed at all 3 of these.