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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34064 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
1/13/2014 12:32 PM
Julius Randle at 10???
DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39937 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/13/2014 2:15 PM LAST EDITED: 1/13/2014 2:15 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:Julius Randle at 10??? And Selden at 7? I think Smart and Lavine are a little too high and Parker, Randle and Wiggins are too low. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
1/13/2014 2:26 PM
Never seen this kid Burton play. Only clips. Actually got him confused with another player for a sec.. Looks real good though -- looks to possess impressive strength, athleticism and overall ability. Question though for all that have seen him -- is it me is there something up with his jump-shooting mechanic? It's slight, not as pronounced as some other players who experience problems, but it looks like it needs some work, no? And I'm only going by highlight clips showing all makes, not misses. From what I've seen -- not one jumper looks the same. There's no repeat of form and follow-through like there should be. Every jumper he takes looks different. Doesn't look completely fluid. Some shots, he's shooting with more arc than others (some are some real rainbow jobs), some he shows follow-through, others he doesn't, etc.. Looks to have a little hitch in his form as well. A little bit of a double clutch coming up from his legs...Also looks like the deeper the attempt, the more he struggles to get power into the shot (he noticeably puts more effort into it resulting in his form changing ever more -- looks even more erratic the further away he is). Makes me wonder if the NBA 3 is a little out of his range...I dunno -- could be nothing. Maybe just some bad angles on the video...Anyone else seeing this in his clips? Issue or no? Shumpert didn't have big success shooting the ball in college for whatever the reason but you could tell right away--his form was clean, textbook even, and save for the bad stretch he had this year up until recently, it's carried over to the NBA and with hard work, he's developed into a good shooter. Shump's problems were mental more than anything else, not much to do with his shooting mechanic. This kid Burton, on the other hand, doesn't look to have nearly that same type of fluidity coming out of college. For all that have seen him play up close -- issue here or no?
Also on the $3mm we have to spend -- is that really enough to use come draft time for 2 decent players, say in the 26-45 range? I have my doubts. Let's put it this way -- if I had a chance to go after a kid like Pierre Jackson right now using the $3mm, possibly a future 2 and extra pieces we currently have such as Aldrich and Murry (Aldrich and Murry may not even be part of this team anymore come draft day), I make the Jackson deal instead of holding onto the money in the hopes that a guy like Burton is around late and then I have a team that's ready to make a reasonable deal for a late pick. We could very well hold onto the $3mm and allocate it for the draft and then not be able to buy a pick in the range we're looking at. I get the feeling that "buying a pick" isn't nearly as easy as it once was, even for teams that don't have the room to add the drafted player -- I feel like these late picks are at a premium more than ever now. If I had a chance to get a good young player before the draft, someone like Pierre Jackson, I'm taking it. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/13/2014 3:03 PM
Finestrg wrote:Never seen this kid Burton play. Only clips. Actually got him confused with another player for a sec.. Looks real good though -- looks to possess impressive strength, athleticism and overall ability. Question though for all that have seen him -- is it me is there something up with his jump-shooting mechanic? It's slight, not as pronounced as some other players who experience problems, but it looks like it needs some work, no? And I'm only going by highlight clips showing all makes, not misses. From what I've seen -- not one jumper looks the same. There's no repeat of form and follow-through like there should be. Every jumper he takes looks different. Doesn't look completely fluid. Some shots, he's shooting with more arc than others (some are some real rainbow jobs), some he shows follow-through, others he doesn't, etc.. Looks to have a little hitch in his form as well. A little bit of a double clutch coming up from his legs...Also looks like the deeper the attempt, the more he struggles to get power into the shot (he noticeably puts more effort into it resulting in his form changing ever more -- looks even more erratic the further away he is). Makes me wonder if the NBA 3 is a little out of his range...I dunno -- could be nothing. Maybe just some bad angles on the video...Anyone else seeing this in his clips? Issue or no? Shumpert didn't have big success shooting the ball in college for whatever the reason but you could tell right away--his form was clean, textbook even, and save for the bad stretch he had this year up until recently, it's carried over to the NBA and with hard work, he's developed into a good shooter. Shump's problems were mental more than anything else, not much to do with his shooting mechanic. This kid Burton, on the other hand, doesn't look to have nearly that same type of fluidity coming out of college. For all that have seen him play up close -- issue here or no? I really love both Burton and Wright as guards. Two different body types but each has great distinctive NBA assets. Im a poor sleeper so I watch a lot of the later college games--I ve seen Burton going back and hes made more for the NBA than college. Hes strong a top 10 athlete in cbb with long arms and hands(important for the NBA) powerful skilled. His jumpshot is average--but that can be improved--your talking 35% 3 and 75% FT 48 from the field===good numbers. He reminds me a lot of Damian Lillard--not quite the shooter but again that can be improved. Bachyinski is an older player--hell be 25 this year--so that will play against him. But at a legit 7-2 skilled player--hes a fantastic 2nd round pick. RIP Crushalot😞
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
1/13/2014 3:58 PM LAST EDITED: 1/13/2014 3:59 PM
callmened wrote:Consultants: NED, not saying we wouldn't make wrong decisions but we would in fact give some good opinions for the franchise rather than just on a message board if management would actually listen I would love to be able to work with Briggs and management together to build a team together |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42864 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
1/13/2014 4:06 PM
I heard on ESPN that Parker might take a couple of years to work as a missionary, speaks to his character to be willing to give up everything the NBA offers to help others. Many GMs said they would still pick him number 1. I'm hoping he doesn't for selfish reasons, want to see what he can do in the pros.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39937 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/13/2014 5:14 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Finestrg wrote:Never seen this kid Burton play. Only clips. Actually got him confused with another player for a sec.. Looks real good though -- looks to possess impressive strength, athleticism and overall ability. Question though for all that have seen him -- is it me is there something up with his jump-shooting mechanic? It's slight, not as pronounced as some other players who experience problems, but it looks like it needs some work, no? And I'm only going by highlight clips showing all makes, not misses. From what I've seen -- not one jumper looks the same. There's no repeat of form and follow-through like there should be. Every jumper he takes looks different. Doesn't look completely fluid. Some shots, he's shooting with more arc than others (some are some real rainbow jobs), some he shows follow-through, others he doesn't, etc.. Looks to have a little hitch in his form as well. A little bit of a double clutch coming up from his legs...Also looks like the deeper the attempt, the more he struggles to get power into the shot (he noticeably puts more effort into it resulting in his form changing ever more -- looks even more erratic the further away he is). Makes me wonder if the NBA 3 is a little out of his range...I dunno -- could be nothing. Maybe just some bad angles on the video...Anyone else seeing this in his clips? Issue or no? Shumpert didn't have big success shooting the ball in college for whatever the reason but you could tell right away--his form was clean, textbook even, and save for the bad stretch he had this year up until recently, it's carried over to the NBA and with hard work, he's developed into a good shooter. Shump's problems were mental more than anything else, not much to do with his shooting mechanic. This kid Burton, on the other hand, doesn't look to have nearly that same type of fluidity coming out of college. For all that have seen him play up close -- issue here or no? One red flag sticks out when you look at eWright's stats. He can't shoot the three. I haven't seen him play, but I know his brother did a good job of developing his spot up J. Is Delon hitting the midrange shot or is simply outclassing opponents with his first step. He has 66 percent field goal percentage, which is really impressive, Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39937 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/14/2014 12:49 AM
Wiggins dropped 17 points, 19 rebounds and 3 assists, 1 steal and 1 block tonight. Still like Parker over him, but Wiggins is starting to assert himself.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
1/14/2014 8:20 AM
In 2015 I would like to assemble our roster to be something like
Dragic This summers MLE, we must be able to sign talent with this because we have failed the past 2 summers with Kidd and MWP/Pablo Keeping only one of either JR, Felton, Tim Hardaway JR, and/or Raymond Felton and trading the rest for cap relief and draft picks (either low 1st round or multiple 2nd round picks when their value goes higher) James Johnson (this summer 2 year team option vet min deal with partial guarantee for 2nd year) Kmart resign Amare/AB/Chandler, to a cap friendly deal with team option deal in the vet min to 2m to 2.5m range, like Anthony I would like them to take a paycut with player option for year 2, so we can use the cap space to assemble a team with much more talent/youth Toure Murry to a 2 year vet min deal fully guaranteed or partial guaranteed for 2nd year in the summer 2015 pick (1st round pick) some young players with upside that Duncan and some of our vets here can work with and help develop like Tyler, Darko Milicic, Jordan Henriquez, Chris Johnson (ex Twolve) maybe 2 of these players Don't compare when Darko was drafted, he really is a solid player when given minutes, of course if he hasn't been training and working on his game I would scratch him though
Deonte Burton PG 6-1 190 Essentially possibly shipping out Both MWP and Pablo, Give Popavich and a GM a nice salary that would be tough to refuse and giving them to keys and Dolans word that he wouldn't get involved and eventually moving Poppavich to a management position like President of Operations as he would develop and find his new successor much like Pat Riley did when he went to The Heat |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/18/2014 12:03 PM LAST EDITED: 1/27/2014 12:47 PM
BRIGGS wrote:A third player who I have no idea if hes going to come out (junior) is Delon Wright split PG from Utah. He is Dorrell Wright's younger brother but has been playing a high level split PG duty for Utah--they play 3 guards--he played juco so this is his first year at DIV 1 and hes a must see throwback player. I dont think hes coming out--but if he does hed be a top 3 2nd round pick with the other 2 I mentioned above. A realistic plan--spend our 3mm$ and do what we need to do to acquire a pick in the 25 range and 31-35 range grab Burton with one--maybe a guy like Wright RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/22/2014 1:24 AM
Move Semaj Christon into a top 11 pick and move Selden to 2015
RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
1/27/2014 12:48 PM
DEonte Burton PG Nevada 6-1 200 44 inch vertical leap
RIP Crushalot😞
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