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1/8/2014  4:35 PM
Do You Still Want to Be Like Mike?

If you've watched ESPN at any point in the last week, you know Michael Jordan just turned 50. With six NBA titles, five MVPs, ten scoring titles, 14 All-Star appearances, and many other feats posterized on my childhood bedroom wall, Jordan's legacy on the basketball court is unmatched. But life off the court, particularly since his final retirement in 2003, hasn't been so pristine.

In anticipation of Jordan's 50th birthday, ESPN senior writer Wright Thompson spent some time with Number 23. The product is an Outside the Lines article titled "Michael Jordan Has Not Left the Building," a fascinating behind-the-scenes glimpse into the mind of the man who revolutionized the world of sports.

Unquenchable Fire

Thompson's piece pulsates with the sense that Jordan isn't happy. "I would give up everything now to go back and play the game of basketball," the Hall of Famer confesses. When asked how he replaces it, Jordan simply states, "You don't. You learn to live with it."

For almost three decades on basketball's supreme stage, Jordan lived for the next challenge, the next challenger. Naysayers became friends, for they brought the nightly fuel that reignited his drive to perform, to conquer, to vindicate his name. This insatiable drive to prove himself propelled Jordan to the pinnacle of the sporting world—and motivated him to remain there. Even today, Thompson writes, he cares what his critics say. "He needs to know, a needle for a hungry vein."

Jordan might have stopped playing basketball, but the rage is still there. The fire remains, which is why he searches for release, on the golf course or at a blackjack table, why he spends so much time and energy on [the Charlotte Bobcats] and why he dreams of returning to play.

The man has left the court, but the addictions won't leave the man.
Even 'Yahweh' Ages

Jordan's surroundings only reinforce a perception of otherworldly status. Thompson remarks:

Jordan is at the center of several overlapping universes, at the top of the billion-dollar Jordan Brand at Nike, of the Bobcats, of his own company, with dozens of employees and contractors on the payroll. In case anyone in the inner circle forgets who's in charge, they only have to recall the code names given to them by the private security team assigned to overseas trips. Estee is Venom. George is Butler. Yvette is Harmony. Jordan is called Yahweh—a Hebrew word for God.

Yahweh. I am who I am. I will be what I will be. Not exactly the sort of nickname that fosters meekness.

"My ego is so big now that I expect certain things," Jordan admits. But, as Thompson observes, this is a natural consequence of life at the very top. "Jordan is used to being the most important person in every room he enters and, going a step further, in the lives of everyone he meets. . . . People cater to his every whim."

Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Such an abnormal existence brings certain abnormal hopes, promises, expectations. As Thompson observes:

Most people live anonymous lives, and when they grow old and die, any record of their existence is blown away. They're forgotten, some more slowly than others, but eventually it happens to virtually everyone. Yet for the few people in each generation who reach the very pinnacle of fame and achievement, a mirage flickers: immortality. They come to believe in it. Even after Jordan is gone, he knows people will remember him. Here lies the greatest basketball player of all time. That's his epitaph.

There's a fable about returning Roman generals who rode in victory parades through the streets of the capital; a slave stood behind them, whispering in their ears, "All glory is fleeting." Nobody does that for professional athletes. Jordan couldn't have known that the closest he'd get to immortality was during that final walk off the court. . . . All that can happen in the days and years that follow is for the shining monument he built to be chipped away, eroded. His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing? For the past 10 years, since retiring for the third time, he has been running, moving as fast as he could, creating distractions, distance.

In his supercilious 2009 Hall of Fame speech, Jordan called the game of basketball his "refuge," the "place where I've gone when I needed to find comfort and peace." Three years later, the restlessness remains.

It turns out the voracious drive that turned a shy North Carolina youngster into a household name comes with a price tag. And as the flicker of immortality fades, Jordan stares in the mirror, wondering where to turn. "How can I enjoy the next 20 years without so much of this consuming me?" he ponders. "How can I find peace away from the game of basketball?"
From Chicago to Calvary

As a Christian, it's easy to read a piece like Thompson's and feel discouraged, even disgusted, by Jordan's egotism. Yet as psychologists clamor to diagnose Jordan's condition, we feel no surprise. The distance between him and us is, after all, uncomfortably slim. We want to be the most important person in every room; he is. As the apostle might say, who is sufficient for these things?

In the world, status is tethered to performance. It's the same in the gospel. The difference, however, is that our status as believers is not tethered to our performance, but Christ's. Only the gospel can offer the resources to combat our pride, expose our emptiness, and flood our hearts with peace.

"How can I find peace away from the game of basketball?" the aging legend asks.

Michael, you never had peace. Triumph and fame, yes, but not peace. James Naismith invented a game that brought you a sense of purpose, of value, of calm. But it was only that—a sense, a counterfeit of the real thing. You will never find life outside the game for the same reason you never found life in it. It's not there.


The peace you seek isn't available on a basketball court or a golf course but on a little hill outside Jerusalem. There, Yahweh incarnate hung in the place of sinners—wannabe Yahwehs like you and like me.

You've gained the world and found it lacking, Mike. Don't lose your soul.

Matt Smethurst serves as associate editor for The Gospel Coalition and lives in Louisville, Kentucky. You can follow him on Twitter.

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1/8/2014  6:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/8/2014  6:28 PM
I'm a little older myself and is still raging inside to play ball..I however don't have a billion dollars and don't own a basketball team and didn't just marry a hottie and isn't able to play golf at a high level anytime and anywhere I want..So in a word, YES, I still want to be like Mike!!!
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1/8/2014  8:03 PM
Even when he was playing the NBA wasn't enough for him which is why he was gambling on everything. Wouldn't have gotten as far as he did without that fire. Double edged sword.
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1/8/2014  8:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/8/2014  8:10 PM
^^^^^What he (holfresh) said. For the record though, I never wanted to be Michael Jordan as a kid; Scottie was my dude (cue disparaging remarks in 3......2......1.....)
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1/8/2014  9:25 PM
screw michael jordan
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1/8/2014  9:45 PM
Getting o9lder and not doing what you once did--that happens to everyone! The world is a young mans game for a short time.
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1/8/2014  10:27 PM
Retirement seemed to be treating MJ well, lol....

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1/9/2014  12:20 PM
Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/9/2014  12:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2014  12:36 PM
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

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1/9/2014  12:48 PM
holfresh wrote:I'm a little older myself and is still raging inside to play ball..I however don't have a billion dollars and don't own a basketball team and didn't just marry a hottie and isn't able to play golf at a high level anytime and anywhere I want..So in a word, YES, I still want to be like Mike!!!

LOL. definitely agree with this hol.

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1/9/2014  12:53 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/9/2014  12:55 PM
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

that's sad.

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1/9/2014  1:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2014  1:31 PM
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

Fair but that's something we all confront periodically in our lives. It's just that older guys, get an official term for it: Mid-Life Crisis. I guess his is more pronounced because of what he was, as a younger man so he has my sympathies. I can't imagine going from a virtual superhero from a physical standpoint to being what he is and 40lbs overweight. Even so, his problems are subconscious and that can be fixed with the same zeal and determination he had as a younger man. And the beauty about being a billionaire is that he can pay someone (therapist/psychologist) to help him through the process. And as far as the fandom stuff is concerned, I have to think he is still a big deal and " the most important person in the room". Your honor, I submit to you evidence A:

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1/9/2014  2:25 PM
Never cared to be anything close to like him... and I don't have crap for money yet.
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1/9/2014  2:49 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

that's sad.

how so?
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1/9/2014  3:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2014  3:34 PM
fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

that's sad.

how so?

It's sad for him and many entertainers who become confused because the fans loved their gift and get confused with their love for them. And they walk away thinking I thought you all ,loved me.
And when that gift is no longer in use he became emotionally scarred.

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1/9/2014  4:01 PM
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

that's sad.

how so?

It's sad for him and many entertainers who become confused because the fans loved their gift and get confused with their love for them. And they walk away thinking I thought you all ,loved me.
And when that gift is no longer in use he became emotionally scarred.

thats what you took from this? You think MJ is emotionally scarred? On what planet? All I take is his struggles post hoops with an identity which most folks in life have to deal with athlete or not. I knew 5 years ago I was nearing the end of my rope after playing hardball for 15+ years so I started learning guitar so I had an outlet when I was done playing. I took a page from the Bernie Williams playbook there. Emotionally scarred? Huh?
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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1/9/2014  4:12 PM
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

that's sad.

how so?

It's sad for him and many entertainers who become confused because the fans loved their gift and get confused with their love for them. And they walk away thinking I thought you all ,loved me.
And when that gift is no longer in use he became emotionally scarred.

thats what you took from this? You think MJ is emotionally scarred? On what planet? All I take is his struggles post hoops with an identity which most folks in life have to deal with athlete or not. I knew 5 years ago I was nearing the end of my rope after playing hardball for 15+ years so I started learning guitar so I had an outlet when I was done playing. I took a page from the Bernie Williams playbook there. Emotionally scarred? Huh?

you may have... but this is what mike had to say....

Thompson's piece pulsates with the sense that Jordan isn't happy. "I would give up everything now to go back and play the game of basketball," the Hall of Famer confesses. When asked how he replaces it, Jordan simply states, "You don't. You learn to live with it."

that's pretty sad.

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Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

that's sad.

how so?

It's sad for him and many entertainers who become confused because the fans loved their gift and get confused with their love for them. And they walk away thinking I thought you all ,loved me.
And when that gift is no longer in use he became emotionally scarred.

thats what you took from this? You think MJ is emotionally scarred? On what planet? All I take is his struggles post hoops with an identity which most folks in life have to deal with athlete or not. I knew 5 years ago I was nearing the end of my rope after playing hardball for 15+ years so I started learning guitar so I had an outlet when I was done playing. I took a page from the Bernie Williams playbook there. Emotionally scarred? Huh?

you may have... but this is what mike had to say....

Thompson's piece pulsates with the sense that Jordan isn't happy. "I would give up everything now to go back and play the game of basketball," the Hall of Famer confesses. When asked how he replaces it, Jordan simply states, "You don't. You learn to live with it."

that's pretty sad.

my response would be its sad to you because you have never tasted that level of achievement.

Im not looking to be nasty here, but lets recap:
guy becomes best player in college
guy becomes best player in pros
guy becomes best player in world
guy becomes best player ever
guy gets old and cant play anymore and folks think its sad he cant let go?

What if Mozart had to quit playing piano? Would it be sad that all he wanted to do was play again?
What is Picasso couldnt paint? Would it be sad that all he wanted to do was paint again?

This guy reached a level off excellence that few humans achieve on this planet. He was the greatest at his craft and he had to walk away as all athletes eventually do, and people think its sad he would give anything to have it back?

I dont like Mike... I mean F-him. Im a Knick fan, but he was the best ever. He was incredible. He transcended the sport, race, nationality, everything... and people think its sad he cant let go?

Man...I miss playing football. I miss playing baseball, and I would give a lot to be able to play again like I once did, and I was a weekend warrior playing for free.

There's no rigt or wrong, but I love how folks are qualified to judge this guy's feelings.

Dropping 50 in a finals game with the whole world watching. Hoisting trophy after hard earned trophy... yea, why anyone couldnt just let that go is beyond me ;)

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
playa2 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
playa2 wrote:Imagine that life for a moment. Put yourself in his shoes (Air Jordans, of course). You can't recall the last time you weren't the most important person in the room. No matter where on Planet Earth you go, you're king. Thirty years and counting. What would that recognition do to someone? To you?
The Flicker that Fades

Dude, I'm $60,000 in student loan debt and about to take on another +/-$250,000 (depending on scholarships). I'm not going to imply that being a famous, multi-billionaire doesn't have it's drawbacks but do you think he would trade his life for yours or mine? If the opportunity was available from my perspective, I think I'd take it in a heartbeat, 30 years closer to the grave or not. When you hit 50 and you're married, do you even want/need to be in public like that? I'm half his age and I'm already indifferent to the social scene unless I'm not in a relationship and/or there is someone I want to **** that's at (fill in a venue here).

The point of the article isn't about trading places , but revealing how empty this guy is.

When all the crowds go away and you aren't the main thing anymore. When you can't conquer yourself and meet your own need. Inside he feels like he no longer has purpose.

His self-esteem has always been, as he says, "tied directly to the game." Without it, he feels adrift. Who am I? What am I doing?

that's sad.

how so?

It's sad for him and many entertainers who become confused because the fans loved their gift and get confused with their love for them. And they walk away thinking I thought you all ,loved me.
And when that gift is no longer in use he became emotionally scarred.

thats what you took from this? You think MJ is emotionally scarred? On what planet? All I take is his struggles post hoops with an identity which most folks in life have to deal with athlete or not. I knew 5 years ago I was nearing the end of my rope after playing hardball for 15+ years so I started learning guitar so I had an outlet when I was done playing. I took a page from the Bernie Williams playbook there. Emotionally scarred? Huh?

you may have... but this is what mike had to say....

Thompson's piece pulsates with the sense that Jordan isn't happy. "I would give up everything now to go back and play the game of basketball," the Hall of Famer confesses. When asked how he replaces it, Jordan simply states, "You don't. You learn to live with it."

that's pretty sad.

my response would be its sad to you because you have never tasted that level of achievement.

Im not looking to be nasty here, but lets recap:
guy becomes best player in college
guy becomes best player in pros
guy becomes best player in world
guy becomes best player ever
guy gets old and cant play anymore and folks think its sad he cant let go?

What if Mozart had to quit playing piano? Would it be sad that all he wanted to do was play again?
What is Picasso couldnt paint? Would it be sad that all he wanted to do was paint again?

This guy reached a level off excellence that few humans achieve on this planet. He was the greatest at his craft and he had to walk away as all athletes eventually do, and people think its sad he would give anything to have it back?

I dont like Mike... I mean F-him. Im a Knick fan, but he was the best ever. He was incredible. He transcended the sport, race, nationality, everything... and people think its sad he cant let go?

Man...I miss playing football. I miss playing baseball, and I would give a lot to be able to play again like I once did, and I was a weekend warrior playing for free.

There's no rigt or wrong, but I love how folks are qualified to judge this guy's feelings.

Dropping 50 in a finals game with the whole world watching. Hoisting trophy after hard earned trophy... yea, why anyone couldnt just let that go is beyond me ;)

One thing Fishmike you aren't in his shoes and I doubt the mental make up of you two are the same.

Being the greatest and people loving you for that alone can be depressing.

EXAMPLE: Your wife loving you because you have a lil money and then you hit a low and she leaves , that's what it probably feels like for him.

We live in a different era from Picasso and Mozart, they weren't on billboards and television all their life.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
O.T Do you still wanna be like MIKE?

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