knicks1248 wrote:Maybe the team decided to listen for a change, I think they defended the 3 ball much better in the 2nd half, defended the Pnr better (which is why the spurs where getting wide open 3's) and didn't switch as much other then AB getting caught on Parker far to much (especially when beno was in the game)

It's amazing how everybody MDA coaches with all end up using his system, Pop, Coach K, Woody, Gentry..

It's a system that gets you so many open looks Once you move the ball, we all know this.

We almost fell into the (goto melo in the last 2 minutes by any means) trap last night.

I'm 1 million pct positive that the KNICKS watch that Game tape of last yrs win against the spurs.

I don't understand that line of thinking...Look at what happened on 4 possessions when the game was in the balance..Guys get tight..Beno coughed it up twice..Murry made two ill advised passes to Amare..Melo gets u an opportunity to get a shot off... Guys get scared to make plays..Get the ball in the hands of a guy who isn't afraid to make a play...LeBron was afraid to make those plays in Cleveland...

It took a huge effort from Shumpert in the final minute for the Knicks to overcome the Spurs’ Marco Belinelli, who finished with 32 points and was 6 of 9 from 3-point range. When Shumpert hit a go-ahead 3-pointer after a wild scramble for a loose ball, Belinelli responded with a 3-pointer of his own to tie the game at 101-101.

Shumpert had an answer, as he often did. He gave the Knicks the lead for good when he tipped in Anthony’s missed jumper, and he defended Belinelli on the subsequent possession. Belinelli misfired, and Anthony made two free throws to seal the win.

“Those are all winning plays. I keep harping on last year, but there were a lot of times last year when somebody would step up and do something amazing to help us win games, and we just haven’t been able to experience much of that this season. So hopefully this is the start of something nice.”

- Head Coach Mike Woodson (Via NYT)

Nalod wrote:I think when you are running with 3rd string PG your coach don't look good most nights.

'sactly

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Maybe the team decided to listen for a change, I think they defended the 3 ball much better in the 2nd half, defended the Pnr better (which is why the spurs where getting wide open 3's) and didn't switch as much other then AB getting caught on Parker far to much (especially when beno was in the game)

It's amazing how everybody MDA coaches with all end up using his system, Pop, Coach K, Woody, Gentry..

It's a system that gets you so many open looks Once you move the ball, we all know this.

We almost fell into the (goto melo in the last 2 minutes by any means) trap last night.

I'm 1 million pct positive that the KNICKS watch that Game tape of last yrs win against the spurs.

I don't understand that line of thinking...Look at what happened on 4 possessions when the game was in the balance..Guys get tight..Beno coughed it up twice..Murry made two ill advised passes to Amare..Melo gets u an opportunity to get a shot off... Guys get scared to make plays..Get the ball in the hands of a guy who isn't afraid to make a play...LeBron was afraid to make those plays in Cleveland...

melo is your best player so you obviously wanted in his hands, the problem is when he is double and triple he still forces it on most nights.

This almost came down to game 4 or 5 in the Indi series when shump made like 4 or 5 straight shots in the 4th qtr, and all of a sudden he became a non factor because they force the ball to melo who proceeded to cough up the ball twice, shot to bricks and we ended up losing.

Pop came out of a time out and called a play for the hottest guy on the team, not the best player.

Thats the difference between a good coach and a average coach.

Nalod wrote:I think when you are running with 3rd string PG your coach don't look good most nights.

Taking that thought a step further, when ALL of your PGs are playing at 3rd string level, your coach doesn't look good most nights.

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Maybe the team decided to listen for a change, I think they defended the 3 ball much better in the 2nd half, defended the Pnr better (which is why the spurs where getting wide open 3's) and didn't switch as much other then AB getting caught on Parker far to much (especially when beno was in the game)

It's amazing how everybody MDA coaches with all end up using his system, Pop, Coach K, Woody, Gentry..

It's a system that gets you so many open looks Once you move the ball, we all know this.

We almost fell into the (goto melo in the last 2 minutes by any means) trap last night.

I'm 1 million pct positive that the KNICKS watch that Game tape of last yrs win against the spurs.

I don't understand that line of thinking...Look at what happened on 4 possessions when the game was in the balance..Guys get tight..Beno coughed it up twice..Murry made two ill advised passes to Amare..Melo gets u an opportunity to get a shot off... Guys get scared to make plays..Get the ball in the hands of a guy who isn't afraid to make a play...LeBron was afraid to make those plays in Cleveland...

melo is your best player so you obviously wanted in his hands, the problem is when he is double and triple he still forces it on most nights.

This almost came down to game 4 or 5 in the Indi series when shump made like 4 or 5 straight shots in the 4th qtr, and all of a sudden he became a non factor because they force the ball to melo who proceeded to cough up the ball twice, shot to bricks and we ended up losing.

Pop came out of a time out and called a play for the hottest guy on the team, not the best player.

Thats the difference between a good coach and a average coach.

Well yeah, we don't have an alternate good/consistent shooter like Belinelli to provide that option and they don't have that dominant scorer who can get you two points when you need it...When was the last time, other than last night, that a Knick player got hot other than Melo??

the last time a player was actually given the opportunity 2 take more than 2 shots in a row.

Every time a player gets hot, his first response is "My teammates were really looking for me out there" If your not getting touches, your not getting rhythm which leads to ISO's and bad shots.

If there's a good entry pass set up for melo, then im all for him getting it, but if you have to take more then 5 seconds to get him the ball, another 10 seconds for him to set up and wait for the double, 8 out of 10 times it will result in a force shot, or bad pass out of the double.

Woodson can't continue to live and die by melo in the 4th

misterearl wrote:Beno managed the floor but was a sieve on defense

Nalod wrote:I think when you are running with 3rd string PG your coach don't look good most nights.

'sactly

And those two turnovers late in game could have wrecked the win! They were the epitome of SPAZ plays. He's in over his head as the starter.

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Maybe the team decided to listen for a change, I think they defended the 3 ball much better in the 2nd half, defended the Pnr better (which is why the spurs where getting wide open 3's) and didn't switch as much other then AB getting caught on Parker far to much (especially when beno was in the game)

It's amazing how everybody MDA coaches with all end up using his system, Pop, Coach K, Woody, Gentry..

It's a system that gets you so many open looks Once you move the ball, we all know this.

We almost fell into the (goto melo in the last 2 minutes by any means) trap last night.

I'm 1 million pct positive that the KNICKS watch that Game tape of last yrs win against the spurs.

I don't understand that line of thinking...Look at what happened on 4 possessions when the game was in the balance..Guys get tight..Beno coughed it up twice..Murry made two ill advised passes to Amare..Melo gets u an opportunity to get a shot off... Guys get scared to make plays..Get the ball in the hands of a guy who isn't afraid to make a play...LeBron was afraid to make those plays in Cleveland...

melo is your best player so you obviously wanted in his hands, the problem is when he is double and triple he still forces it on most nights.

This almost came down to game 4 or 5 in the Indi series when shump made like 4 or 5 straight shots in the 4th qtr, and all of a sudden he became a non factor because they force the ball to melo who proceeded to cough up the ball twice, shot to bricks and we ended up losing.

Pop came out of a time out and called a play for the hottest guy on the team, not the best player.

Thats the difference between a good coach and a average coach.

Well yeah, we don't have an alternate good/consistent shooter like Belinelli to provide that option and they don't have that dominant scorer who can get you two points when you need it...When was the last time, other than last night, that a Knick player got hot other than Melo??

the last time a player was actually given the opportunity 2 take more than 2 shots in a row.

Every time a player gets hot, his first response is "My teammates were really looking for me out there" If your not getting touches, your not getting rhythm which leads to ISO's and bad shots.

If there's a good entry pass set up for melo, then im all for him getting it, but if you have to take more then 5 seconds to get him the ball, another 10 seconds for him to set up and wait for the double, 8 out of 10 times it will result in a force shot, or bad pass out of the double.

Woodson can't continue to live and die by melo in the 4th

But last year when JR was on, did JR not take and make winning baskets??