crazy how we are seeing this so often of late.

NYKBocker wrote:It's gotta be the new shoes. Old timers like Clyde Frazier and even Drexler mentions that back in the day they used low tops or as they call it tennis shoes to play basketball and they did not see this much injuries to the knees. Ankle sprains yes but not in the knee.

I would have went with the players are more athletic now. The trauma and forces their body go through has to be higher than in the past.

Guys like Isaiah Thomas in his Detroit days could do all the moves kyrie does. He could also jump out of the gym like rosé and Westbrook. Difference was isiah understood the game and paced himself to win not get on sports center. That's the difference.

EnySpree wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:On a serious note I feel bad for Kyrie. He is the guy I want on the Knicks more than anyone

Concentrate on Toure...I think our guy is going to be putting up similar numbers very soon. We need to play the kid

I agree I have become tired of outsiders it's time to build around what we have and make them into players to go forward with. Keep draft picks get players detrimental to youth movement like JR Smith off the team. If Melo wants a vet team then let him go find his vet team he wants to be on and trade him there for picks and young players.

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Kyrie and these young guys can't play that's why. Westbrook is trying to dunk on the whole team every play. Rose is trying to win the Olympic decathlon every play. Kyrie wants to join the and1 circuit. None of these guys can play the pro game.

Guys like Isaiah Thomas in his Detroit days could do all the moves kyrie does. He could also jump out of the gym like rosé and Westbrook. Difference was isiah understood the game and paced himself to win not get on sports center. That's the difference.

your assessment comes directly out of the fact that the rules concerning palming and traveling have been drastically loosened over the years, and at the same time the hand check has been abolished.

these players would not be able to make the cuts they do if they were not allowed to palm the ball as they change direction or do these crossovers that all require palming. he so-called explosiveness we see today is aided by the fact that players are allowed an extra step or two as they take off.

it's a convenient myth that the players are more athletic. the training methods may be more sophisticated and the players may be bigger.

the nba is at a low point. too many teams, diluted talent pool, lowest skill level i have ever seen.

absolutely.

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Kyrie and these young guys can't play that's why. Westbrook is trying to dunk on the whole team every play. Rose is trying to win the Olympic decathlon every play. Kyrie wants to join the and1 circuit. None of these guys can play the pro game.

Guys like Isaiah Thomas in his Detroit days could do all the moves kyrie does. He could also jump out of the gym like rosé and Westbrook. Difference was isiah understood the game and paced himself to win not get on sports center. That's the difference.

your assessment comes directly out of the fact that the rules concerning palming and traveling have been drastically loosened over the years, and at the same time the hand check has been abolished.

these players would not be able to make the cuts they do if they were not allowed to palm the ball as they change direction or do these crossovers that all require palming. he so-called explosiveness we see today is aided by the fact that players are allowed an extra step or two as they take off.

it's a convenient myth that the players are more athletic. the training methods may be more sophisticated and the players may be bigger.

the nba is at a low point. too many teams, diluted talent pool, lowest skill level i have ever seen.

GREAT points.. today we see guys like kenyon martin getting or used to get these massive deals and they bring very little skill to the table... the rules and the changes to the game have made less skilled guys more relevant....