It seems like Woodson is ready to not play him the minutes he's been getting judging by his post game comments. And he barely played in the 2nd half yesterday.

It's so obvious how much he hurts the team defensively. I kinda feel bad for him because I don't think it's an effort thing. I just think he's a part of the low IQ problem the roster has.

Regardless, he should sit. Maybe playing 6-8 minutes per game the rest of the year will drive him to opt out and go back to Italy or sign somewhere else, in addition to helping us salvage the year. And by salvage I mean not deal with the embarrassment of giving a lottery pick as the final blow from the Melo deal.

MSG3 wrote:Hate to wish injury on anyone, but if Melo comes back this week and Bargs sits for a while, it might be the best thing that can happen for the team if they hope to get to .500.

It seems like Woodson is ready to not play him the minutes he's been getting judging by his post game comments. And he barely played in the 2nd half yesterday.

It's so obvious how much he hurts the team defensively. I kinda feel bad for him because I don't think it's an effort thing. I just think he's a part of the low IQ problem the roster has.

Regardless, he should sit. Maybe playing 6-8 minutes per game the rest of the year will drive him to opt out and go back to Italy or sign somewhere else, in addition to helping us salvage the year. And by salvage I mean not deal with the embarrassment of giving a lottery pick as the final blow from the Melo deal.

Dolan was willing to give 3draft picks for bargs and won't give 1for Lowry Tells u all our leader He took bargs on for 3draft picks. That's his big move and it backfired just like giving amare5 years

BRIGGS wrote:

MSG3 wrote:Hate to wish injury on anyone, but if Melo comes back this week and Bargs sits for a while, it might be the best thing that can happen for the team if they hope to get to .500.

It seems like Woodson is ready to not play him the minutes he's been getting judging by his post game comments. And he barely played in the 2nd half yesterday.

It's so obvious how much he hurts the team defensively. I kinda feel bad for him because I don't think it's an effort thing. I just think he's a part of the low IQ problem the roster has.

Regardless, he should sit. Maybe playing 6-8 minutes per game the rest of the year will drive him to opt out and go back to Italy or sign somewhere else, in addition to helping us salvage the year. And by salvage I mean not deal with the embarrassment of giving a lottery pick as the final blow from the Melo deal.

Dolan was willing to give 3draft picks for bargs and won't give 1for Lowry Tells u all our leader He took bargs on for 3draft picks. That's his big move and it backfired just like giving amare5 years

I agree. The positive spin on that is maybe Dolan sees what a horrible deal that was and is not giving any more picks unless it's for a Rondo type. A 1st for Lowry is good, but now he's gun shy. Maybe that's a good thing.

yellowboy90 wrote:I wish the Hakeem camp wasn't close for the summer. Bargs needs a transformation since his 3pter is gone.

Bargs problem is D. He's a good offensive player. His D makes him useless.

MSG3 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I wish the Hakeem camp wasn't close for the summer. Bargs needs a transformation since his 3pter is gone.

Bargs problem is D. He's a good offensive player. His D makes him useless.

One poster on Knickerblogger suggested that it would be interesting to see if Bargs could run a pnr as a ball handler. He seems to have the skills to do so.

Re: D - I don't think there is anything that could be done to improve his team D. He actually is better than I thought but is still garbage. I do think he needs simple assignments like trapping the PnR everytime but then he gets lost finding his man after the ball is swung. This switching D also hurts him because he gets confused easily.

If I was Woody I would try Bargs as the top man in the 1-4 zone. Let him use his Iso defense and decrease his decision making.

djsunyc wrote:i am pretty convinced the knicks gave up so much for melo and bargs b/c they both have the same agents and are represented by CAA...

Nothing that complex- Dolan is just a moron, is all. He probably thought CAA were doing HIM a favour with those trades!

MSG3 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Is it his neck? I thought I saw something about that on twitter.

Yea his neck is messed up.

I think it is in his head... some brain issue will playing defense... Dfobia.

nixluva wrote:It's all Dolan. He is in complete control. He won't allow any GM to have full control. I don't hate Bargs like others, even tho he is frustrating, but deals made by this team are fully on Dolan since the Melo deal IMO. We all knew Bargs was a problem on D. I don't think Bargs is used to his best on O either. It's easy to pick him out but in truth there's a LOT of other players creating the issues on D for this team. It's not news that Bargs is soft and not a good help defender. Teams are killing us from the perimeter tho! Teams are getting fast breaks and 3's.
Sitting Bargs hasn't changed those weaknesses.

Actually his shot leads to a lot of those fast breaks and 3s.