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How soon until Andrew Bynum is a Knick...or bankrupt?
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djsunyc
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12/28/2013  11:17 AM
Cavaliers center Andrew Bynum suspended indefinitely by team for conduct detrimental to the team.

About Bynum suspension, league source tells Yahoo: "He doesn't want to play basketball anymore. He never liked it that much in first place."
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12/28/2013  11:31 AM
lol dj throwin haymakers.

i give it about 2 days?

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12/28/2013  11:47 AM
Its a job. Pays well. I think we'd be suprised how many are like this. Pushing the body thru surgery, pain, keep the weight off, stay in shape to perform and not get hurt. Most get to the NBA by hard work and love the game and love to work hard. some get there by god given talent and can stay at a high level with it. Teams will pay you tens of millions either way.

Knicks have had their fair share. The list is long. Too long.

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12/28/2013  12:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2013  12:49 PM
What he needs is a mentor like a Tim Duncan, possibly with another (development talent like Jeremy Tyler or future pick) that would MOTIVATE him and challenge each other to progress
Someone who he can respect and has the ability to motivate him, and teach him some fundamentals of the game, in addition to WORK ETHIC
Lets not forget, Bynum was drafted right out of HS, and had to grow up at an early age to fill the shoes of SHAQ and many MEN when he was still a boy
He never had a real mentor to help his development both on and off the court, and I think he is now suffering from it along with his injuries and work ethic


That is why I would target Poppavich, Buford, coaching staff and management in Spurs, development staff, along with Tim Duncan (in 2015 as a UFA) with high salaries for management and promised future jobs at high salaries with guarantees of no interference from Dolan, it would help attract FA's to play in NYC, along with valuing something we NEVER have valued in the past years (DEVELOPMENT and draft picks, PATIENCE, and salary cap)


He has the talent but like Amare also has physical injuries in addition to the heart or lack of like a Eddy Curry
However, he is a gamble and he does have the ability to be a top 5 Center in the entire league, which he is far from when he was in his earlier years
His contract should be in compensated from his "POTENTIAL" and injuries/lack of work ethic, I say his value for a contract, is the 8m (range as a low) to 15m (as his high)
How many years, how much guaranteed, is the biggest question, and he is someone that has to PROVE that belongs in the NBA after his last few stincts in the league with Philly and Cleveland now, it is a tricky and could pay out big if he regains his form, but is still far from it

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12/28/2013  12:38 PM
I don't think you need grown men to have mentors. You need better patents to raise these pansies. It's ok to fail in this society as long as you get paid. They laughing at us fans
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12/28/2013  12:42 PM
in translation he is a TOP BREED with GREAT GENES, that needs to be rehabilitated

but

is towards the early middle of his career, while suffering traumatic injuries both physical and mental

Questions to ask
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1- At what price is he "WORTH"

2- what is his true "VALUE"

3- Is he worth the time, effort, resources, to do so

4- Does he still have the fight in him and will he continue to put in the work necessary

5- Will his injuries allow him to recover and if not, can he accept playing a smaller role but still looking to put the work necessary to do so

6- Is he looking to be one of the TOP players in the league, in his position, or is he just looking to be a minor piece to a bigger puzzle like a Grant Hill in The Sun's.... and not the Grant Hill of Detroit or suppose to be in "Orlando"

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12/28/2013  12:45 PM
EnySpree wrote:I don't think you need grown men to have mentors. You need better patents to raise these pansies. It's ok to fail in this society as long as you get paid. They laughing at us fans

Your are probably "RIGHT" they "SHOULDN'T" especially at the contracts they get as their reward....


but


Why was Kidd so important to us along with the veterans we had last year?

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12/28/2013  12:55 PM
Now, look at players like Thabeet and Greg Oden,

If you can get them at the right place, it is worth the risk/reward, he may fall as low as under 5m (partial or unguaranteed or near the vet min at WORSE)

Again, no one can deny his talent, he may never regain his "potential and abilities" but if he can become a quality backup C or accept and play a smaller role, like Grant Hill did on the Suns, he can still be a piece to the puzzle, AT THE RIGHT PRICE

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12/28/2013  1:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2013  1:04 PM
He played great and won a ring with Phil. It's all about the environment. New York is not the right environment and winning culture that's for sure. This organization is in shambles
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12/28/2013  1:26 PM
RonRon wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I don't ththat doesn't mean wrink you need grown men to have mentors. You need better patents to raise these pansies. It's ok to fail in this society as long as you get paid. They laughing at us fans

Your are probably "RIGHT" they "SHOULDN'T" especially at the contracts they get as their reward....


but


Why was Kidd so important to us along with the veterans we had last year?

Thats no good man. Teams need leadership but we need veterans in the team that don't play to keep the locker room together?

Sounds like the team needs to be rebuilt. We have bottom feeling teams that are beating us because what they lack in talent they bring with hard work and effort. Our team is lost right now. Our locket rim doesn't need vets we need new players. Most of the players we have are already seasoned veterans so that excuse is way out the Window.

Total revamp. Only tim Hardaway should stay

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djsunyc
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12/28/2013  1:49 PM
apparently he has an out clause on jan 7th.

he is trying to work it where he leaves the cavs and signs with the heat or clippers for the rest of the season.

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12/28/2013  4:05 PM
djsunyc wrote:apparently he has an out clause on jan 7th.

he is trying to work it where he leaves the cavs and signs with the heat or clippers for the rest of the season.

Interesting. I have a couple of friends that are big Sixer fans and they hate the guy. That bowling injury last year was ridiculous. I kind of thought he was just done. I remember Bayless reporting something about Bynum having degenerative knees. I don't think he has a long tenure in the league with his past health issues.
n January 2008, Andrew Bynum dislocated his left kneecap. Since then, he has missed 154 games, including all of last season, due to various knee issues. Other injuries and suspensions have kept him out of 26 more games. The man misses a lot of games, usually because of his knees. Hoop76.com outlined all of the time he has missed over the last few years:


January 2008: Dislocated left kneecap. Missed 46 games and underwent arthroscopic surgery that offseason.

January 2009: Right medial collateral ligament tear. Missed 32 games. Injury unrelated to the dislocated knee but MCL tear suggested he was "loose-jointed" and "sensitive to contact injuries in the future," DiNubile told the Los Angeles Times.

November 2009: Right elbow strain. Missed two games.

February 2010: Left hip injury. Missed two games.

March 2010: Strained left Achilles tendon. Missed 13 games.

April 2010: Right knee hyperextension. Caused a previously diagnosed lateral meniscus tear to go from "very small" to "small." Played through the injury in the 2010 playoffs and underwent arthroscopic surgery in the offseason. Missed first 24 games of following season.

February 2011: Left bone bruise. Missed one game.

April 2011: Right knee hyperextension. Missed one game.

February 2012: Right knee discomfort. Received Synvisc injection. Missed no games.

September 2012: Orthokine treatment on both knees. Discomfort in both knees caused Bynum to miss start of season.

November 2012: Left knee reinjured bowling.

February 2013: Knee pain persists. "I have the most to lose by not playing and I want to get back."

http://www.fearthesword.com/2013/7/15/4525390/nba-free-agency-a-look-at-andrew-bynums-chronic-knee-issues
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12/28/2013  5:46 PM
EnySpree wrote:
RonRon wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I don't ththat doesn't mean wrink you need grown men to have mentors. You need better patents to raise these pansies. It's ok to fail in this society as long as you get paid. They laughing at us fans

Your are probably "RIGHT" they "SHOULDN'T" especially at the contracts they get as their reward....


but


Why was Kidd so important to us along with the veterans we had last year?

Thats no good man. Teams need leadership but we need veterans in the team that don't play to keep the locker room together?

Sounds like the team needs to be rebuilt. We have bottom feeling teams that are beating us because what they lack in talent they bring with hard work and effort. Our team is lost right now. Our locket rim doesn't need vets we need new players. Most of the players we have are already seasoned veterans so that excuse is way out the Window.

Total revamp. Only tim Hardaway should stay

I think our guys play hard, just not smart. Bynum feet and knees are a mess. I don't think anyone would blame him if he didn't want to do it anymore. That's a lot of money to throw away tho. I'm sure his peeps are telling him to think long and hard.

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12/28/2013  6:00 PM
Eddy Curry didn't want to play basketball either , he wanted to be a halftime tumbler at Chicago stadium , but he out grew it. That's what he had a passion for.
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