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Nalod
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12/26/2013  9:54 AM
and they hired this guy!

Scott Layden - Assistant General Manager

In his first season with the Spurs as assistant general manager … brings over 30 years of experience in the NBA to the Spurs front office … spent the past seven seasons with the Utah Jazz as an assistant coach, his second stint with the Jazz … began his professional career in basketball in 1980 serving as an assistant coach at Fairleigh Dickinson University, before making the move to the NBA as an administrative assistant and scout with the Jazz in 1981 … in February of 1982 he was elevated to assistant coach, where he remained until being named the Jazz’s director of player personnel in 1989 … was named director of basketball operations in 1992, before being promoted to vice president in September of 1996 … from 1992 through 1999, was primarily responsible for all player personnel, draft and trade decisions … the Jazz recorded five straight 50+ win seasons (including three 60+ win campaigns), two Midwest Division titles (1996-97 and 1997-98) and back-to-back Western Conference Championships in 1997 and 1998 … was runner-up (to the Lakers’ Jerry West) for The Sporting News NBA Executive of the Year award in 1994-95, a season in which the Jazz went 60-22 … in the summer of 1999 was named general manager of the New York Knicks … a year and a half later, he was promoted to team president … in his four-plus seasons in New York, the Knicks made the playoffs twice, advancing to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2000 … before re-joining the Jazz in 2005, worked with NBA TV for part of the 2003-04 and entirety of the 2004-05 NBA season … an upstate New York prep standout, went on to play collegiately for St. Francis University, where he was a four year letterman and captained the team in his senior year of 1979-80 … graduated with a degree in business management … has led camps in Israel in conjunction with PeacePlayers International, a program that uses basketball to teach children proven tactics for improving their communities … has also worked basketball camps for both the NBA and Adidas in China, Brazil and Europe … he and his wife, Marsha, have four daughters: Sarah, Hannah, Mary Frances and Emma Grace.

While some of you will harp on Eisley and anderson mistakes our organizational failure takes smart guys, pays them well then spits them out as failures.

Then we bring in another, and another............

Lets the smart guys do their thing, set a plan, understand the shortcomings of the organization and understand setbacks happen. Dolan has the money. DOlan has the talent in place. A smart man knows what he does not know. Dolan is not a smart man!!!

Argue Laydens mistakes but the big one was Dice. After all we know Dice really appears to be the kind of Dolanesque starphuch. When team was boring and not great under chaney we were not making panic moves and had picks and cap space all of which Isiah leveraged to the max. Layden got fired midway thru the season!!! Who fires a GM in december? One that does not want to do a Marbury trade? it was reported that the deal was on Laydens desk and Isiah executed it.

We had no leverage for a ewing deal. And we are losing leverage on Melo.

I hope this crap ends cuz its history repeating. Mills is a smart guy. I hope Dolan has the patience to see a plan thru.

1. stop trading picks!!! I hope this is what the Lowrey deal was about!
2. make a plan. Stick to it.
3. Leave the basketball people to do basketball things.
4. Trade Melo for a nice player and a pick. Small things add up. We are losing with melo so its obvious we need much more than tying up big money on one type of player.
5. Ujiri calls don't answer the phone.
6. If CAA is not your friend, then they are the enemy. remove them.

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arkrud
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12/26/2013  10:53 AM
Nalod wrote:and they hired this guy!

Scott Layden - Assistant General Manager

In his first season with the Spurs as assistant general manager … brings over 30 years of experience in the NBA to the Spurs front office … spent the past seven seasons with the Utah Jazz as an assistant coach, his second stint with the Jazz … began his professional career in basketball in 1980 serving as an assistant coach at Fairleigh Dickinson University, before making the move to the NBA as an administrative assistant and scout with the Jazz in 1981 … in February of 1982 he was elevated to assistant coach, where he remained until being named the Jazz’s director of player personnel in 1989 … was named director of basketball operations in 1992, before being promoted to vice president in September of 1996 … from 1992 through 1999, was primarily responsible for all player personnel, draft and trade decisions … the Jazz recorded five straight 50+ win seasons (including three 60+ win campaigns), two Midwest Division titles (1996-97 and 1997-98) and back-to-back Western Conference Championships in 1997 and 1998 … was runner-up (to the Lakers’ Jerry West) for The Sporting News NBA Executive of the Year award in 1994-95, a season in which the Jazz went 60-22 … in the summer of 1999 was named general manager of the New York Knicks … a year and a half later, he was promoted to team president … in his four-plus seasons in New York, the Knicks made the playoffs twice, advancing to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2000 … before re-joining the Jazz in 2005, worked with NBA TV for part of the 2003-04 and entirety of the 2004-05 NBA season … an upstate New York prep standout, went on to play collegiately for St. Francis University, where he was a four year letterman and captained the team in his senior year of 1979-80 … graduated with a degree in business management … has led camps in Israel in conjunction with PeacePlayers International, a program that uses basketball to teach children proven tactics for improving their communities … has also worked basketball camps for both the NBA and Adidas in China, Brazil and Europe … he and his wife, Marsha, have four daughters: Sarah, Hannah, Mary Frances and Emma Grace.

While some of you will harp on Eisley and anderson mistakes our organizational failure takes smart guys, pays them well then spits them out as failures.

Then we bring in another, and another............

Lets the smart guys do their thing, set a plan, understand the shortcomings of the organization and understand setbacks happen. Dolan has the money. DOlan has the talent in place. A smart man knows what he does not know. Dolan is not a smart man!!!

Argue Laydens mistakes but the big one was Dice. After all we know Dice really appears to be the kind of Dolanesque starphuch. When team was boring and not great under chaney we were not making panic moves and had picks and cap space all of which Isiah leveraged to the max. Layden got fired midway thru the season!!! Who fires a GM in december? One that does not want to do a Marbury trade? it was reported that the deal was on Laydens desk and Isiah executed it.

We had no leverage for a ewing deal. And we are losing leverage on Melo.

I hope this crap ends cuz its history repeating. Mills is a smart guy. I hope Dolan has the patience to see a plan thru.

1. stop trading picks!!! I hope this is what the Lowrey deal was about!
2. make a plan. Stick to it.
3. Leave the basketball people to do basketball things.
4. Trade Melo for a nice player and a pick. Small things add up. We are losing with melo so its obvious we need much more than tying up big money on one type of player.
5. Ujiri calls don't answer the phone.
6. If CAA is not your friend, then they are the enemy. remove them.

Looks like Spurs are preparing for Dunkan, Manu and Pop retirement.
Layden is a good low key man to start traditional rebuild and this what Spurs will do.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
BRIGGS
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12/26/2013  10:57 AM
Hey Nadol--we will never know what orders SL was under here--he was probably told sign veteran players to get us to the playoffs and thats what he did. He was a frontman like what we ahve now
RIP Crushalot😞
Nalod
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12/26/2013  11:26 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Hey Nadol--we will never know what orders SL was under here--he was probably told sign veteran players to get us to the playoffs and thats what he did. He was a frontman like what we ahve now

Thats my rants for some time, that our GM's, like most GM's are told what to do. Great owners do two things. Either lead with Greatness or delegate. Most owners accomplished something to create the wealth. Dolan inherited a great business. We know the rest.

I have used the Joe Torre example before that losing can teach what most great winners need to learn before they succeed. Sometimes GM's need room to breath, make mistakes but most importantly give them resouces to succeed. Time, Patience and money. Ours get money.

Take a guy like Donnie and hire him to change the culture of the organization and 2.5 years later ruin it. Only Dolan.
Take a guy like Layden who inherited a huge mess and when he has the resouces to start building you bring in Isiah leverage the largest payroll and disaster in the history of prosports and only now being challanged by the Nets.

I don't know what to make of the Bargnani instead of Aldridge and the CAA Taliban influene but seems after all is said and done, as well as the Chris smith thing, it would appear Grunny got made gone and now we are on a new tangent but one that might actually force Dolan to look in the mirror.

Meanwhile the self proclaimed smartest fans that inhabit the Mecca like to point fingers and lay blame and have used Layden as the posterchild punching bag gets hired to be deputy dog to RC Buford and might be his successor to what has been the best run organization. The fact that the owner and Buford hires this guy tells me someting.

Nalod in Laydens defense for years tried to demonstrate how our organization fails and why. How many Gm's and HOF coaches we going to go thru before the worlds smartest mecca residents wake up from the "Matrix" coma and understand whats up.

Your being duped knicks fans!

Long agreed the Spurs have the best GM in the game......

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