Posted by BRIGGS:
detroit is in great shape to sign both players. ny has 0 chance at okur none nada nothing because the most they could offer is the MLE which would be matched. i dont think the guys agent would even consider signing one. Detroit is in a position IF they needed to make a deal with Charlotte for a draft pick in 06 if they take cambpell and throw in 3mm$ they could offer this deal to any of 4-5 teams to get rid of his cap number of 4.4mm IF even needed. I think they will resign okur within reason, but if some team comes up with something out of this world like 9mm+ I think they are smart enough to let him go. They will take care of wallace, im sure they could sign him to something like 3 years 30 mm. In any case there is no scenario for the knicks for these players none nada, if we offer the mle to okur hes not likely to sign or if for some unkown reason he did, they would match. raweed would have to take half the money at a minimum and i doubt it, hes already in a nice position.
FA for the knicks isnt going to be some kind of grand happening--if you look at the number of teams with huge cap space middle cap space the number of restricted FA--we have literally no chance of signing a real good player. Its more likely that we could use ending contracts or KT because we need roster spots anyway. Our big signing will likely be Vin Baker. Im almost positive that we would have to use MLE money on him anyway if he wants something like 3 years 10mm. If he doesnt get it from us, hell get 3mm or so from some other team.
I agree that there is no chance for okur and likely very little chance for wallace. If the scenario plays out as suggested, (cambell to cha in expansion draft) Detroit would have around 14mm in cap space to sign both players. They only get the cap space by renouncing wallace's bird rights. lets say they negotiate with Okur a deal at around 7mm (which i think his market rate will be to teams like utah/denver) That would leave them 7mm to sign weed.
Now, If the Knicks came up with the full 6 yr MLE offer to wallace, Detroit could still outpay us, but not by a substantial amount. As you said Briggs their offer to sheed is likely to be 3-4 years. If rasheed is looking at a 4 year offer from DET at 7mm/yr or a 5.1mm from NY for 6 years, its not a slam dunk that he'll sign w/ them. I'd say it would be close to 50/50 at that point, maybe sightly favoring detroit if they advance far in the playoffs.
Of course, this all becomes moot if
1) Okur signs for the mle
2) they let Okur go and keep Wallace rights
This also is looking at these two teams in a vaccum. If detroit goes this route and renouces rasheed's rights to sign okur, other teams with cap room will be in the running for his services. Can't see utah or Atl as possibilites, but Denver (if they lose camby) or the Suns could be options and offer more more than both Detroit and NY.
All in all, I would say the chance for okur is 0 and for wallace is low, probably 5% chance of it happening, only based on the fact that he seemed to favor NY during the season.
