BRIGGS wrote:to D league to play 40 minutes a night as pure 1 guard for the max of 5 games. He still has potential but I think it may be as a PG. Hes a utility SG at best. What is wrong with sending player down to minors for 5 games to play huge minutes at new position to learn. If Roger Clemens and Derek Jeter play double AA ball--so can Shumpert to re-wire his game to 1 guard.

Iman Shumpert is 24 yrs old, how old was Jeter and Clemens when they came back from injury ?

If the NCAA wasn't a plantation for kids, we would see more NBA players in minor leagues NBDL to get better or work on conditioning.

EnySpree wrote:Hardaway was the one that dropped 21 points..... when was the last time Shumpert dropped 20pts in one game?

Shump averages 6 shots a game.

Disagree with the DL assignment too. I think that could backfire -- we could really run the risk of losing him for good mentally with a demotion like that. Continue starting him at the 2 and continue to build him back up one game at a time. His entire game if off and it's been off for some time now...Gotta get him right -- when he's right, he's our best 2G on the team. I think this could be accomplished w/o a demotion. Just my 2 cents..

chewy wrote:If he goes to the D-League and stinks it up, then what? No trade value

that's on Shump....he needs to find himself...problem is he thinks he already made it. Dude needs to see how easy the free games from ubisoft and the adidas ads can slip away from a player who isn't playing in the league anymore....

Nobdoy call plays for Tim Hardaway either. Hardaway is making the most out of his opportunities. Hardaway's minutes are all over the place and Woodson curses him out daily for stuff other guys get away with....yet somehow the kid is still playing well...

so it's a matter of who wants it....this is pro ball not AAU....if Iman can't figure it out, there is a Civil Service exam with his name on it....real talk

meloanyk wrote:The trade with Toronto should be revisited, Shump and Felton going for Lowry. Everyone keeps harping about Shump's good D and our poor pg D but Lowry is just as good or better defending ones as Shumpert is defending twos and Lowry can actually score and pass some.

I like Lowry, but I would not give up Shumpert to get him. The guy brings a good vibe to the team when he is out there, and I think if we got rid of J.R. Smith and the coach showed more confidence in Shumpert by running a few plays for him, people would start to see his true value.

djsunyc wrote:

meloanyk wrote:The trade with Toronto should be revisited, Shump and Felton going for Lowry. Everyone keeps harping about Shump's good D and our poor pg D but Lowry is just as good or better defending ones as Shumpert is defending twos and Lowry can actually score and pass some.

raptors are not trading lowry to the knicks unless a pick is involved.

meloanyk wrote:

djsunyc wrote:

meloanyk wrote:The trade with Toronto should be revisited, Shump and Felton going for Lowry. Everyone keeps harping about Shump's good D and our poor pg D but Lowry is just as good or better defending ones as Shumpert is defending twos and Lowry can actually score and pass some.

raptors are not trading lowry to the knicks unless a pick is involved.

The rumored deal was Shumpert (or a first rd pick or THJ) , Felton and Artest for Lowry. It was supposedly squashed by Dolan. Shumpert's play since especially his shot is destroying his trade value and Im certainly questioning whether he will ever realize his potential. Very few play f/t two in NBA if you cant shoot. Lowry may only be a mid tier pt but he fits a need more than Shumpert does at this point. Problably still win East with him.

The rumor was 2 of Shump/THJ/1st round pick with Felton and Metta. That's why it was squashed. The price is too high for a rental on Lowry.

Finestrg wrote:See I don't agree with this, respectfully. I just don't see much playmaking skills outta Shump at all. I think his future lies as a top-flight defensive 2G that can hopefully put up some points with his improved shooting (coming into this season anyway). That's the ceiling...His "playmaking" skills are erratic to say the least. You ever see some of the overly hard, off-the-mark passes this guy makes? WOW...He really doesn't have much feel for this aspect of the game at all imo, unfortunately. And then there's the other main weakness: finishing at the rim consistently. He had come a long way with his outside shooting before this season-long funk set in though, and I think he could regain this aspect in time. Just gotta put the work in, get the extra shots up after practice and shot his way out of it...Didn't see the game today so I have no idea how he looked or what he did or didn't do but of late, the jumper's looked a lot better. I know Clyde's been saying he's aiming his shot but WTF does that really mean? Of course he's aiming his shot -- aren't you supposed to? LOL. He's just been playing overly tight for some reason - that's it...Haven't seen many airballs lately, so that's good -- the confidence may be coming back a little. Hit that big baseline 3 the other night in the win...

Disagree with the DL assignment too. I think that could backfire -- we could really run the risk of losing him for good mentally with a demotion like that. Continue starting him at the 2 and continue to build him back up one game at a time. His entire game if off and it's been off for some time now...Gotta get him right -- when he's right, he's our best 2G on the team. I think this could be accomplished w/o a demotion. Just my 2 cents..

Agreed. I've seen enough of Shump at point guard to know it's not his natural position. We knew this the day we drafted him. He's a combo guard who can assist some with ball handling duties. But the D-League still might not be bad idea. He needs to gain confidence shooting the ball and taking it too the basket. The dude just looks lost on offense.