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EnySpree
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12/25/2013  6:41 AM
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Diamonds no longer shine in the Garden
In wake of the Knicks trade talks with Toronto coming to a halt, I strongly believe the Knicks need to get back to operating totally in house. What I mean is keep the pipeline to Europe, D-league and summer league open and fix our situation internally. Signing guys like Earl Baron, Bill Walker and Shawne Willians. The Jeremy Lin signing. The Copeland and Prigioni signing. Even guys like James White. We need to keep finding these guys and keep our team alive and relevant. No team is going to save us the way Minnesota did the Celtics with the Garnett trade. No team is going to trade us Pau Gasol for our scraps the way Memphis did the Lakers. We need to take control of our own situation. The only way to do it is to do what we have been silently doing the past couple of years and throughout knicks history. Sift through the dirt to find Diamonds in the rough.

That 94 Knicks team was built behind players that literally were bagging groceries before they became Knicks. That famous story was told by John Starks. He went on to become the city's beloved son and all he needed was a chance. Anthony Mason played all over the world and could be seen every summer hanging out at West 4th. He was just a regular young basketball player, rough and skilled looking for his break. My point is this is not something new to this franchise. Back then teams didn't give up draft picks and the future just to get marginal talent. They didn't beg teams to help them. They didn't forfeit years to get under the salary cap and beg stars to save them. Why are the knicks so soft? Management is to blame, but all they have to do is take a breath and trust the basketball minds they have out there scouting talent.

What is the knicks biggest need right now? The knicks had their diamond in the rough in their hands and his name was Bobby Brown. Somebody called him in to workout with the Knicks THREE TIMES!!! Instead another birdy put it into someone's head to wait on Beno Urich to decide if he would come to the Knicks for a paycut. Anybody could see that Felton and Beno were basically the same player. Neither can defend and both had talent comparable to most back ups in the nba. The knicks needed an explosive point guard with the ability to get to the rim and score. They needed one that could stick that open 3 pointer. Bobby Brown was that dude. For several years he's been eating up nba talent during the summer. Just last summer he teamed up with Kevin Durant in the famous Drew League scoring almost point for point with his teammate. Bobby Brown is a California legend and he is better than a lot of guys in the Nba at his position. Another guy we had that actually played for us in pre season was Ike Diogu. Once he got started he was rather dominant inside. He got all the boards in his area and he got deep in the post anytime he wanted. If these guys were so good how come no other team is interested? Same could be said for Starks and Mason before the knicks gave them a shot. It's not like the knicks picked up better players instead. We signed Chris Smith and Cole Alrich who both played terribly in pre season. At the present moment, Bobby and Ike are playing overseas when they both would be starting for us right now with injuries to Kmart and Felton/Prigioni.

Jeremy Tyler by the way is still in the D-league balling out of his mind. He's coming off two games where he had a combined rebounding total of over 30. He's scoring the ball well too. Toure Murry actually made the big team only to be buried on the bench. You can't tell me this kid is not destroying Felton, Prigioni and Beno in practice. Yet through our struggles we call up Chris Smith from the dleague. Lord, please help the Knicks! If you believe in the basketball gods then you know they have been trying their best to smite all our bad eggs and provide us with diamonds but we just won't acknowledge them.

I'm just a fed up fan right now. I hear my fellow fans talking about Rondo and LeBron still. It's like our fanbase has been castrated. The tired line being used if a trade rumor doesn't include a star, "the knicks still not going to win nothing if they get that guy". People forget lateral moves like Bill Cartwright for Charles Oakley and then Oakey for Camby years later can change the course of your destiny. Remember Larry Johnson for Anthony Mason? That 4 point play doesn't happen if they didn't give Anthony Mason a shot way back when. Wake up Knick fans and find your balls. Don't hand them over to this current group of.... sigh....I bid you farewell, because as you all know, when you start getting angry, it can get ugly really fast.

Go Knicks

EnySpree at 9:09 AM
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EnySpree
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12/25/2013  8:14 AM
We can't cry for years anymore....we can't cry for Draft picks.

We have youth in the stash. We have cj Leslie, jeremy tyler, toure murry, thjr, and cole alrich. That's a starting line up of young guys. Shump makes it in as the 6th man.

Problem is we refuse to embrace this era. We coulda mixed in Bobby Brown and ike diogu to this group and melo and tyson. If you lose with them at least you know this group will get better. We have a future. We need to stop praying for a mutha****a to save us. Man up!

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12/25/2013  8:48 AM
Sounds as a plan.
You can probably capture the D-league championship with this group.
But is it what Mr. Dolan promised at the beginning of the season?
Get it done baby!!!
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12/25/2013  10:35 AM
I am pretty excited about the numbers Leslie is putting up. I have tried to watch bayhawk games but only last 10 minutes so I can't say that I have seen him do anything amazing. I wish the nba would expand rosters to allow dleague teams to be true farm teams for nba franchises. Leslie and Tyler could sign with anyone at any point.
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12/25/2013  11:01 AM
if only we still had james white
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12/25/2013  11:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/25/2013  11:25 AM
CrushAlot wrote:I am pretty excited about the numbers Leslie is putting up. I have tried to watch bayhawk games but only last 10 minutes so I can't say that I have seen him do anything amazing. I wish the nba would expand rosters to allow dleague teams to be true farm teams for nba franchises. Leslie and Tyler could sign with anyone at any point.

They could never ever do that. The NCAA would lose out on making big plantation money off young men who would go right to the D-league from Highschool like they do in other PRO Sports.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
EnySpree
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12/25/2013  11:46 AM
Our future guys need reps now.

Thjr can give us 14/3/2 one day at shooting guard.
Tyler can give us 15/10 at power fwd.
Murry might give us 12/5/5 at point guard

this could all be true by 2015....

Slide in a center or a small fwd... maybe carmelo and tyson at reduced rates and bam mutha****er we are back!

we need to plant these seeds now!

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12/25/2013  12:45 PM
EnySpree wrote:Our future guys need reps now.

Thjr can give us 14/3/2 one day at shooting guard.
Tyler can give us 15/10 at power fwd.
Murry might give us 12/5/5 at point guard

this could all be true by 2015....

Slide in a center or a small fwd... maybe carmelo and tyson at reduced rates and bam mutha****er we are back!

we need to plant these seeds now!

I'm thinking the plan from management is more in the line of star studded, named players, as opposed to getting a functional team. With the constant tossing of draft picks and thoughtless trades, we're destined to stay mired in a slump. Somebody must stop the madness

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12/27/2013  10:03 AM
Tyler is rated 6th out of top 10 d league prospects. Leslie is ranked 19th.
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12/27/2013  11:02 AM
Eny.. I just dont see much upside to this group. Murray has the work ethic and BB IQ to be a good PG. A Fisher type. Role player... starter yes, but medium impact. THjr has the most upside, maybe even all star if he can perfect that jumper off screens etc.. like a Reggie Miller/Alan Houston type player. The rest look like warm bodies and roster fodder to me. And the Murray/THjr projection is the best possible. Hope like hell Im wrong, but who knows....
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