If you’re a passenger in a defective plane, the best you can hope for is the best pilot possible. Say what you will about the state of the New York Mets, they still have a winner in charge. You think it’s bad? If Sandy Alderson hadn’t been steering, we’d be at the bottom of the Hudson right now.

Almost every move Alderson has made since taking over in 2010 has been golden. The Mets’ farm system, decaying when he took over, is now near the top of the majors, headed by pitchers Noah Syndergaard and Rafael Montero. But his specialty is the pump-and-dump: The best example is R. A. Dickey, a cheap free-agent-to-be the Mets swapped for Syndergaard and Travis d’Arnaud from Toronto.

(Syndergaard is now one of the top pitching prospects in baseball and was only the second most valuable player in that trade.) Alderson had done the same a year earlier, turning Carlos Beltran into Zack Wheeler, at the time the Giants’ pitching future and now the Mets’ likely opening-day starter. In an age when prospects are the highest-­valued assets in the game, Alderson, somehow, pried away three top ones for players with expiring contracts. No other G.M. has been able to wrangle up even one player like that in a similar deal.

The Mets are still a mess, but Alderson is the last person to blame for that. And don’t look now, but he may even have brought them to the verge of being good. When Matt Harvey returns in 2015, anyway.

- NYMagazine

Experts?

I prescribe that the thunder can stay relevant and sneak a chip or two in the next 5 years all working youth, picks and its stars. The St. Louis Cardinals lost Albert Pujols and got back to the world series. Yanks I thought were smart to "DIVEST" of Cano's contract and spread it out.

Time to test how smart NY fans are. Time to see if they smart enough to understand and digest a rebuild. I have my doubts.

But I agree. Blow this ****ty team up

gunsnewing wrote:Beltran is one of the greatest playoff performers in the history of baseball. Melos play regresses in the playoffs vs real defenses

But I agree. Blow this ****ty team up

gunsnewing - in your haste to make a point you are missing the point about value. Beltran was a valuable chip that Alderson turned into two up and coming players.

If our general manager cannot spin Carmelo Anthony into two similarly impressive yoots, then why is he sitting in the big corner office?

Apart from Tim Hardaway Jr, the playing personality of this roster needs therapy.

holfresh wrote:
Again, the Knicks will never rebuild...Also, I think the author was highlighting the work of the GM...The Mets are still losing games right??

If you’re a passenger in a defective plane, the best you can hope for is the best pilot possible. Say what you will about the state of the New York Mets, they still have a winner in charge. You think it’s bad? If Sandy Alderson hadn’t been steering, we’d be at the bottom of the Hudson right now.

Holfresh - The Knicks may not have reached bottom yet.

Steve Mills and Allan Houston are only advisors.

gunsnewing wrote:Beltran is one of the greatest playoff performers in the history of baseball. Melos play regresses in the playoffs vs real defenses

But I agree. Blow this ****ty team up

Mets fan here, loved watching Beltran but unfortunately, this is my most visceral memory of him...

holfresh - if you are the general manager for 30 minutes, do you keep Melo or start working the cel phone to gauge interest?

misterearl wrote:Righting The Ship

holfresh - if you are the general manager for 30 minutes, do you keep Melo or start working the cel phone to gauge interest?

The problem with Knick fans is they want change for the sake of change...With these changes ushers in no foundation, constant uncertainty, zero direction, the very thing they complain about...Put a guy in charge who knows what is is to be in NY, like say Alan Houston, who has a foundation with the team and ain't going anywhere..Let him fail, change course and regroup, learn on the job..Hire a coach like Mark Jackson who knows what it is to play in NY(we love defense) and can be a leader of men( that was my argument for Jackson when Donnie was deciding between MDA, Jackson and whoever)..Melo is a keeper..He has the thick skin to thrive in NY, not many people do...He took the blame for MDA leaving and went out on a tear...Many players will wilt in these bright lights, see Shump...Shin-Soo Choo turned down 140 mil from the Yanks and took 130 from the Rangers..Here ain't for everyone...Keep the ones who can handle it...Find a damn PG who can bring tempo to the offense and play a little D...Beno need not apply or Prigs for that matter...I really don't think it's that deep..

OKC looked at lot like the Knicks when Westbrook went down...Durant looked at lot like Melo when Westbrook wasn't there..Get Melo some help...Get rid of Amare's contract, sign a player who can take the pressure of Melo logging 40+minutes a game and three guys hanging on his shirt during a turnaround jumper...That won't happen until 2015...No need to throw out the baby with the bath water...

Am I crazy to say last two years is the best basketball Melo has played in his career??...U can't ask him to do more than he has done this season, even on the defensive end, can u??...I guess he can still pass more...So the answer is to trade a dollar for 4 quarters and hope one of the quarters become a dollar??..Doesn't make sense to me but it might to many...Change..

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

misterearl wrote:Righting The Ship

holfresh - if you are the general manager for 30 minutes, do you keep Melo or start working the cel phone to gauge interest?

The problem with Knick fans is they want change for the sake of change...With these changes ushers in no foundation, constant uncertainty, zero direction, the very thing they complain about...Put a guy in charge who knows what is is to be in NY, like say Alan Houston, who has a foundation with the team and ain't going anywhere..Let him fail, change course and regroup, learn on the job..Hire a coach like Mark Jackson who knows what it is to play in NY(we love defense) and can be a leader of men( that was my argument for Jackson when Donnie was deciding between MDA, Jackson and whoever)..Melo is a keeper..He has the thick skin to thrive in NY, not many people do...He took the blame for MDA leaving and went out on a tear...Many players will wilt in these bright lights, see Shump...Shin-Soo Choo turned down 140 mil from the Yanks and took 130 from the Rangers..Here ain't for everyone...Keep the ones who can handle it...Find a damn PG who can bring tempo to the offense and play a little D...Beno need not apply or Prigs for that matter...I really don't think it's that deep..

OKC looked at lot like the Knicks when Westbrook went down...Durant looked at lot like Melo when Westbrook wasn't there..Get Melo some help...Get rid of Amare's contract, sign a player who can take the pressure of Melo logging 40+minutes a game and three guys hanging on his shirt during a turnaround jumper...That won't happen until 2015...No need to throw out the baby with the bath water...

Am I crazy to say last two years is the best basketball Melo has played in his career??...U can't ask him to do more than he has done this season, even on the defensive end, can u??...I guess he can still pass more...So the answer is to trade a dollar for 4 quarters and hope one of the quarters become a dollar??..Doesn't make sense to me but it might to many...Change..

god what a laughably stupid post.

Knicksfan wrote:If management had any idea about what they should do, they would do a fire sale and collect as many picks and prospects as possible for the likes of Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and to a lesser degree J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert, Raymond Felton and Andrea Bargnani.

Truth is, this team is rotten beyond repair because the problem is worse than Woody, Melo, The Smiths and anything else.

They should've fired Woodson already because this is a lost season with or without him, and it sure seems like he is a big part of the mess.

Who stays? Timmy Jr. and Toure Murry. Leslie and Tyler should move up. Chris Smith can G.F.H.

Losing with a young team will be miles better than losing with this pathetic, stupid and ridiculously under-performing veteran team of losers.

Let the Melo Era end already.

AMEN!