dk7th wrote:if the franchise and team weren't dysfunctional then arguing about who did what would matter.

but it clearly doesn't matter so stop sweating the specifics. last night's ****up is only a symptom of the systemic ****tiness of the franchise. they are playing under an oppressive ****cloud and nobody can think clearly.

that said i'll play along so here's my take on specifics:

"it all happened so fast." boo-hoo
"he should have at least grabbed him." what is even he doing out there?
"bargnani got pulled out by gortat." yeah, so? he's bargnani!
"melo grabbed the ball before i had a chance to call timeout." yeah guess what melo's a dunce.

pretty much sums up this mess dk...

Finestrg wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:There was a long gap between the bucket and the inbound. If he timeout is not getting called what do you do? This one is on he coach. You have 3 timeouts, even if the ball is inbound you can still use two timeouts to advance the ball to halfcourt, I believe. Also, when Chandler comes back late game D will hopefully be better.

Agree somewhat I guess -- Woody's probably the most to blame -- to the man's credit, he did say on his post game interview that he made a mistake by not reacting fast enough to call a timeout. Which, btw, shows without a doubt that there was no play to no-huddle it and rush Washington for a score. I didn't believe that was a set play at the time and Woody's comments prove it wasn't.

I just find it funny that while Woody's falling on the sword in his interview, Melo's telling the press that "we fully expected a timeout there." WTF is he kidding me? CALL ONE, THEN!!! Bull**** man, you weren't expecting anything -- what he did was pull something akin to Chris Webber circa 1993 in the NCAA Championship game. Of course Webber's mistake was worse and slightly different but the theme is the same -- the best player on the team lost focus, sprinted up court with the ball with no idea what to do....Melo panicked his ass off and lost all sense of reality that last play.

My #1 culprit last night though -- Beno Udrih. Probably not being totally fair to the guy--he hasn't even been a regular player for us (his fault here btw when you get right down to it though--he's been that bad)--but this dude lost the game for us. Missed FT, absolutely ABYSMAL defense on the Beal drive with the wrong approach before the play even materialized (looking for help the whole way instead of digging in) AND THEN to complain, completely lose focus and inbound the ball to Melo when there was clearly no play there to be made. End of story. Time to turn the page.

TeamBall wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:There was a long gap between the bucket and the inbound. If he timeout is not getting called what do you do? This one is on he coach. You have 3 timeouts, even if the ball is inbound you can still use two timeouts to advance the ball to halfcourt, I believe. Also, when Chandler comes back late game D will hopefully be better.

Agree somewhat I guess -- Woody's probably the most to blame -- to the man's credit, he did say on his post game interview that he made a mistake by not reacting fast enough to call a timeout. Which, btw, shows without a doubt that there was no play to no-huddle it and rush Washington for a score. I didn't believe that was a set play at the time and Woody's comments prove it wasn't.

I just find it funny that while Woody's falling on the sword in his interview, Melo's telling the press that "we fully expected a timeout there." WTF is he kidding me? CALL ONE, THEN!!! Bull**** man, you weren't expecting anything -- what he did was pull something akin to Chris Webber circa 1993 in the NCAA Championship game. Of course Webber's mistake was worse and slightly different but the theme is the same -- the best player on the team lost focus, sprinted up court with the ball with no idea what to do....Melo panicked his ass off and lost all sense of reality that last play.

My #1 culprit last night though -- Beno Udrih. Probably not being totally fair to the guy--he hasn't even been a regular player for us (his fault here btw when you get right down to it though--he's been that bad)--but this dude lost the game for us. Missed FT, absolutely ABYSMAL defense on the Beal drive with the wrong approach before the play even materialized (looking for help the whole way instead of digging in) AND THEN to complain, completely lose focus and inbound the ball to Melo when there was clearly no play there to be made. End of story. Time to turn the page.

What's so puzzling is Melo didn't even sprint. He casually dribbled the ball up the court like he had a full shot clock until about the mid court line where it's like he suddenly realized the only had 6 seconds. Bizarre.

You're right. Jogged it up more like with no idea how much time was even on the clock until he got a good 5' past midcourt. Horrible. But there he is post game with his dumb hat on, licking his lips with the dumb wry smile on his face saying "we fully expected a timeout there." What?!? LMAO. Joke and a half right here, boy...and I'm a Melo supporter in general for the most part. Then make sure one was called, moron! What prevented him from calling a TO?? LeBron James calls a TO there for his team.

SupremeCommander wrote:In summary, Wall and Webster took a wiz on the Knicks

They came in with their bladder full.

NYKBocker wrote:Wall and Beal are going to be a terror in the future. Wizards are 2 players away from making noise in the playoffs. If they ever get a SF and PF then they will be contending in a very weak Eastern Conf.

to me, wall still has a way to go when it comes to running offense, but he does have mad speed and is getting better shooting that jumper....

Beal is a smooth player, I like his game.. both guys still have their best years ahead of them and you are correct, with a piece or two, they can be scary...