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There is a lot of blame to go around the way the Knicks are playing. here are some!
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Papabear
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12/11/2013  6:38 PM
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1. Woody at the begining of training camp really treated Shump bad.
2. The rumors with Dolan wanting Shump gone.
3. Dolan getting rid of the dancers.
4. Having Chris Smith make the team when other players were better.
5. JR Smith getting suspended for 5 games and being out of shape.
6. Amare being unable to be what we need him to be.
7. The team making the same Mistakes game after game.
8. Woody not being able to adjust from game to game.
9. The worst defense and offense I've seen in a long time. Zeke's teams never lost by 41 points.
10.The team does not fit together.
11.The Melo trade left us with nothing. Even though I'm glad we got him. He should have waited.
12.The injury of Chandler hurt us more than we expected.
13.There is nothing that we can do now in trades because no one wants what we have.
14.JR Smith is not the player he was last year.
15 JR and Melo on the court at the same time is worst than Melo and Amare.
16.Shumpt has a bad attitude and it affects his playing.
17.We are stuck till 2015 and I doubt Melo stays and we are known to destroy our young for over the hill players.
18.Woody's defensive plans are worse than I ever thought.
19.We won't make the playoffs no matter who coaches the team.
20.The season is lost but I am still a die hard Knicks fan.

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12/11/2013  6:45 PM
Run, rabbit run.
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to dig another one.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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12/11/2013  7:46 PM
arkrud wrote:
Run, rabbit run.
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to dig another one.

Papabear Says

I don't know what you mean. But anyway whatever. Remember I still a die hard fan. I'm just disappointed with the way the whole situation is panning out.

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12/11/2013  8:02 PM
Papabear wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Run, rabbit run.
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to dig another one.

Papabear Says

I don't know what you mean. But anyway whatever. Remember I still a die hard fan. I'm just disappointed with the way the whole situation is panning out.

They're just Pink Floyd lyrics papabear. I guess describing the troubles of being a Knicks fan and how the team always digs itself into holes

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12/11/2013  8:12 PM
Dagger wrote:
Papabear wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Run, rabbit run.
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to dig another one.

Papabear Says

I don't know what you mean. But anyway whatever. Remember I still a die hard fan. I'm just disappointed with the way the whole situation is panning out.

They're just Pink Floyd lyrics papabear. I guess describing the troubles of being a Knicks fan and how the team always digs itself into holes


Papabear Says

After the game Woody will be singing that old folk country song. (nobody knows the trouble I've seen. No body knows , nobody. LOL it will be a blood bath tonight and Shump will be trying to throw the game every chance he gets. Plenty of airballs and plenty of bricks.

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12/11/2013  11:10 PM
Blood Bath or Word Salad Bath?

Papabear wrote:
After the game Woody will be singing that old folk country song. (nobody knows the trouble I've seen. No body knows , nobody. LOL

it will be a blood bath tonight and Shump will be trying to throw the game every chance he gets. Plenty of airballs and plenty of bricks.

Papabear - please don't make sh#t up

This song, expresses only the pain suffered by the slaves, while, of course, offering hope to them through fervent Christian belief. Its melody is nostalgic in its moderately paced, old-South character. It features the kind of lyricism heard in many Stephen Foster songs and, curiously, sounds like an early version of the popular American folk song "Hang Down Your Head, Tom Dooley."

The secondary material in "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen" takes on a somewhat more glorious, less rhythmically jaunty manner while still conveying that sense of nostalgic warmth. Like "When the Saints Go Marching In" and "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands," this is a classic spiritual.

~ Robert Cummings

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12/11/2013  11:36 PM
People should also remember Nelson Mandela for his sense of humor. A reporter once asked Mandela what was the highlight of his life. He responded, "meeting The Spice Girls."
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12/11/2013  11:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2013  11:50 PM
Dagger wrote:
Papabear wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Run, rabbit run.
Dig that hole, forget the sun,
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down it's time to dig another one.

Papabear Says

I don't know what you mean. But anyway whatever. Remember I still a die hard fan. I'm just disappointed with the way the whole situation is panning out.

They're just Pink Floyd lyrics papabear. I guess describing the troubles of being a Knicks fan and how the team always digs itself into holes

Yep... Exactly... I guess it is human nature...
I hope they will not ruin all the great efforts of Mandela life in South Africa and will not make it a bigger agile Zimbabwe.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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12/12/2013  7:18 AM
Somewhere Glenn Grunwald is chuckling! I suspect he wasn't in agreement with Dolan's alignment with CAA and other moves.
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12/12/2013  2:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2013  2:41 PM
Goes to show you how Isiah hates NY BASKETBALL(and ANUCKA SANDERS- STEPHON MARBURY, he's from Chicago. He's paying backthe fans who dogged him out while here as coach and Operations guy here in NY.

He has something on or in Dolan that will continue to make NYC Pro ball a joke !

I can't believe or think any owner or Gm can be this incompetent with no plan insight.

Maybe he has some pictures of Dolan or something in Dolan, but he's definitely calling these shots and making decisions for the Knicks these days.

JUST READ MY SIG

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/12/2013  11:37 PM
misterearl wrote:Blood Bath or Word Salad Bath?

Papabear wrote:
After the game Woody will be singing that old folk country song. (nobody knows the trouble I've seen. No body knows , nobody. LOL

it will be a blood bath tonight and Shump will be trying to throw the game every chance he gets. Plenty of airballs and plenty of bricks.

Papabear - please don't make sh#t up

This song, expresses only the pain suffered by the slaves, while, of course, offering hope to them through fervent Christian belief. Its melody is nostalgic in its moderately paced, old-South character. It features the kind of lyricism heard in many Stephen Foster songs and, curiously, sounds like an early version of the popular American folk song "Hang Down Your Head, Tom Dooley."

The secondary material in "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen" takes on a somewhat more glorious, less rhythmically jaunty manner while still conveying that sense of nostalgic warmth. Like "When the Saints Go Marching In" and "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands," this is a classic spiritual.

~ Robert Cummings


Papabear Says

Mister Earl are you gonna challenge me about old folk songs?? Man you are out of your fu(4in league. All of those songs were owned and controlled by none men of color even though blacks sung them and wrote some of them. They never made a dime. And you must have gotten the hell out of the wrong side of the bed this morning. I taught black music history and have a masters degree in music arranging and conducting. A winner of billboards awards , record world awards, nominated for a soul train award and nominated two times for a stellar award 30 hit songs which I own all rights and copy rights. I of all people know about my people struggles and for me to use the words no body knows the struggle I've seen was in good heart. You need to put that rage out on todays lyrics when they use the N word and call women bitches and whow$$$. Now that you should get mad about because the bros own those songs that disgrace our culture and women. Shame on your sorry ***.

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12/12/2013  11:52 PM
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I'm so glad My Knicks won the game. I guess I'll sing the song (Well Where Movin on Up) to a deluxe seat at MSG in the sky. LOL

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12/13/2013  12:08 AM
Papabear wrote:
misterearl wrote:Blood Bath or Word Salad Bath?

Papabear wrote:
After the game Woody will be singing that old folk country song. (nobody knows the trouble I've seen. No body knows , nobody. LOL

it will be a blood bath tonight and Shump will be trying to throw the game every chance he gets. Plenty of airballs and plenty of bricks.

Papabear - please don't make sh#t up

This song, expresses only the pain suffered by the slaves, while, of course, offering hope to them through fervent Christian belief. Its melody is nostalgic in its moderately paced, old-South character. It features the kind of lyricism heard in many Stephen Foster songs and, curiously, sounds like an early version of the popular American folk song "Hang Down Your Head, Tom Dooley."

The secondary material in "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen" takes on a somewhat more glorious, less rhythmically jaunty manner while still conveying that sense of nostalgic warmth. Like "When the Saints Go Marching In" and "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands," this is a classic spiritual.

~ Robert Cummings


Papabear Says

Mister Earl are you gonna challenge me about old folk songs?? Man you are out of your fu(4in league. All of those songs were owned and controlled by none men of color even though blacks sung them and wrote some of them. They never made a dime. And you must have gotten the hell out of the wrong side of the bed this morning. I taught black music history and have a masters degree in music arranging and conducting. A winner of billboards awards , record world awards, nominated for a soul train award and nominated two times for a stellar award 30 hit songs which I own all rights and copy rights. I of all people know about my people struggles and for me to use the words no body knows the struggle I've seen was in good heart. You need to put that rage out on todays lyrics when they use the N word and call women bitches and whow$$$. Now that you should get mad about because the bros own those songs that disgrace our culture and women. Shame on your sorry ***.


Papabear Says

Also there were hundreds of songs that was song in slavery times that went from plantation to plantation. They used songs to communicate and talk to each other so the masters did not know what they were talking about.

The secondary material in "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen" takes on a somewhat more glorious, less rhythmically jaunty manner while still conveying that sense of nostalgic warmth. Like "When the Saints Go Marching In" and "He's Got the Whole World in His Hands," this is a [b]classic spiritual

I don't know where you got this but you are so far off base with this statement that it's a joke.

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12/13/2013  9:03 AM
Papabear - for someone who claims to have taught, your reading comprehension, and writing skills, need serious work.
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12/13/2013  7:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/13/2013  7:59 PM
misterearl wrote:Papabear - for someone who claims to have taught, your reading comprehension, and writing skills, need serious work.

Papabear Says

misterearl

Now that I caught you in a lie you are now trying to attack me personally? I probably forgot more than you will ever know. And by the way No Body Knows The Trouble I've Seen was written in the 19th century around 1910 or 12 Harry Douglas did the best musical arrangement on the song. It was written way after slavery in the USA. You attacked me without out cause. I hope everyone on the forum look up the song. You may have fancy words but what good are they when you lie and try to discredit someone who knows way more than you about black music history. The song was recorded around 1938 on Decca records and no black folks got a dime. Decca records sure got paid. Now a lot of my body of works is on the internet, google ect. Not all but a lot. Where is your body of work Mr. Earl? Tell me so I can look it up. This is the second time you did something like this to me. If you have a problem with me put me on ignore. But don't come out with lies and start talking about stuff that you have no idea what you are talking about. All the fancy words don't mean a damn thing when you tell lies on someone else. Next time do you homework before you jump to me about black music history because you don't know what you are talking about and then you attack me personally because I caught you in a lie. The song does not only express the pain and suffering for blacks but was also used in white plays also. I read what you wrote and knew what you were implying, my problem is that you embraced this song as a slavery song and I was in some way making a mockery of the song. This song is now public domain the true African Americans and their families who wrote the song will never see a dime. So next time pick a better song to attack me on or just put me on ignore.

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12/13/2013  9:13 PM
#6 isn't legitimate. If Amare or any nba player isn't getting minutes, he will not be able to show you what he has. Everything else on this list I am cool with.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

1. Woody at the begining of training camp really treated Shump bad.
2. The rumors with Dolan wanting Shump gone.
3. Dolan getting rid of the dancers.
4. Having Chris Smith make the team when other players were better.
5. JR Smith getting suspended for 5 games and being out of shape.
6. Amare being unable to be what we need him to be.
7. The team making the same Mistakes game after game.
8. Woody not being able to adjust from game to game.
9. The worst defense and offense I've seen in a long time. Zeke's teams never lost by 41 points.
10.The team does not fit together.
11.The Melo trade left us with nothing. Even though I'm glad we got him. He should have waited.
12.The injury of Chandler hurt us more than we expected.
13.There is nothing that we can do now in trades because no one wants what we have.
14.JR Smith is not the player he was last year.
15 JR and Melo on the court at the same time is worst than Melo and Amare.
16.Shumpt has a bad attitude and it affects his playing.
17.We are stuck till 2015 and I doubt Melo stays and we are known to destroy our young for over the hill players.
18.Woody's defensive plans are worse than I ever thought.
19.We won't make the playoffs no matter who coaches the team.
20.The season is lost but I am still a die hard Knicks fan.

There is a lot of blame to go around the way the Knicks are playing. here are some!

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