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How many teams will be under the Cap next year?
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Andrew
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4/27/2004  9:02 AM
Anyone have a list or a general idea? I'm just wondering because there are a couple threads going about potential (non-superstar) free agents that posters think are going to command more than the mid-level exception. Daniels and Q recently have been mentioned. Okur and Wallace will be eating up another teams cash. Potentially so will Kobe.

I'm wondering where all the money is going to come from to sign these young guys to more than the exception contracts?
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4/27/2004  9:22 AM
here it is in a nutshell...

At one point the cap was expected to go up, now with Stern's report of profit down (although revenue up) the cap is expected to stay around $42 mil

Was (and maybe a couple others) are under the cap but not even enough to outbid an MLE contract so I didnt list those...
This is the payrolls for the teams going into next year..

Hawks $13 mill - they literally have nobody under contract, about 4 guys (and Alan Henderson doesnt play)

Pistons $33 mill - This only gives them about $10 mill to resign Okur AND Raweed Wallace. Because Okur is an early Bird player they cant sign both (unless they both want to play for around the MLE

Nuggets $25 mill - clearly in the best position. Camby, Boykins and White are their key FAs. They are rumored to offer KMart or QRichardson close to max cash. They can afford to do that and still keep Marcus.

Spurs $32 mill - they need that to resign Ginobili, another early Bird player. That wont leave them with much more than a MLE level deal left either

Jazz $8 mill - They (like the Hawks) have 4 players guarenteed for next year.

LAC $32 mill - Key FA is QRichardson

Suns $33 mill - are they going to be a major FA players under new ownership?

[Edited by - fishmike on 04/27/2004 09:23:01]
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4/27/2004  9:22 AM
celts - over cap
hawks - over cap, but close to cap
heat - over cap
bulls - over cap
nets - over cap
cavs - over cap
knicks - over
pistons - to be under cap
magic - over
pacers - over
76ers - over
bucks - at or close to cap
wiz - over cap
hornets - over
raptors - over
mavs - over
warriors - over
bobcats - under
nuggets - under
clippers - under
rockets - over
lakers - over
grizz - over
suns - under
wolves - over
blazers - over
spurs - under
kings - over
jazz - under
sonics - over
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4/27/2004  9:59 AM
basicly you have the Hawks, Nuggets, Jazz and Suns that will be major FA players. There arent a lot of good FAs out there, and I suspect most of them will sign with their current teams.

There will be many usefull middle of the road FAs for the MLE, not a lot I really see as great fits for us. The probblem is most of the good FAs are RFA (like Swift) and their team always has the option to match (see Elton Brand last year).

There arent many good FAs and there arent many teams. This is one of the reasons I think we can get one of the Jazz's #1s, because they need players. If I could trade Kurt and a #2 for a #1 (they have #16 and #21) I would probably do that.
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4/27/2004  6:07 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=1790188

By Marc Stein
ESPN.com

Back in December, it was possible to talk taxes in NBA circles without angst. Commissioner David Stern spoke cautiously of his efforts to generate enough revenue to avoid a luxury tax after this season. Stern admitted that was a long shot, but there was widespread confidence that there would be no tax triggered after the 2004-05 season, because revenue growth would sufficiently outstrip the rise in player salaries by then.


Figures now that, in the vicinity of April 15, tax talk has taken on a darker tone.


Stern said after the recent Board of Governors meeting that the league remains "in a negative cash position" despite some revenue gains. Specifics are scarce for those of us who don't have access to detailed information on NBA finances, but we do know teams are revising their forecasts and bracing for disappointments this summer and next.


Dan Rosenbaum, a UNC-Greensboro economics professor who ranks as a leading luxury-tax authority, told us at Christmas that he was projecting a less than one-in-10 chance of a luxury tax being triggered after the 2004-05 season. Rosenbaum now sees at least a 30-percent chance of a tax coming in the summer of 2005, and that might be a conservative estimate.


Rosenbaum's calculations also suggest that the salary cap could go down this season from the current $43.8 million for just the second time in league history. If the cap indeed goes down -- or even if it stays relatively flat -- and with a luxury tax after next season more of a possibility, this summer's free-agent market would surely be affected.



A 2005 luxury tax would put a crimp in the Pistons' plans to re-sign Rasheed Wallace, right.
In his latest analysis (located at http://www.uncg.edu/bae/people/rosenbaum/luxtax.html), Rosenbaum suggests that the Clippers and Suns will find it tougher to clear the salary-cap space needed to make a max-contract offer to Kobe Bryant. Rosenbaum also contends that the Pistons and Spurs will face even greater challenges retaining their own free agents -- Detroit keeping Rasheed Wallace and Mehmet Okur, for example.


Teams that will have significant cap room, meanwhile, are in an even stronger position now, according to Rosenbaum. Instead of more liberal signing and trading, as expected back in December, Rosenbaum sees another offseason of conservative spending, which could enable the Hawks, Nuggets, Jazz and expansion Bobcats to A) bargain-shop for free agents who struggle to find money elsewhere and B) charge teams like the Clippers and Pistons a high price for taking on salary in trades.


Stay tuned. Forecasts change quickly and surprises happen, so this prognosis isn't terminal. Last July, you'll recall, the cap went up higher (to $43.8 million) than anyone envisioned once the final numbers were calculated and gave teams like Washington that little bit of extra cap room needed to sign a Gilbert Arenas.


Unfortunately, the people we know who are good at math say it'll take another big surprise this summer to loosen up offseason player movement.

How many teams will be under the Cap next year?

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