A poor man's Chris Paul, not super athletic (Though he's more athletic then you expect, ever saw him pull down a windmill) high IQ pass first guy with leadership and intangibles. Leads the D-League in assists.

Stats: 18.8 PPG 10.5 APG (Leader in league)
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Pierre Jackson 5'11 - Plays for Idaho Stampede

Undersized electrifying guard who is super explosive, has a jitterbug kind of quickness and is able to score at will. Reminds me of a young AI. Very exciting player.

Stats: 27 PPG (2nd in e league) 4.7 APG 2.3 SPG

Basically a clone of his brother Stephen Curry. Very good shooter, a combo guard, can score and pass.

Stats: 20.8 PPG 8.6 APG 89.3% FT 44.9% FG

Jeff Vandummy use to be a pg in college.hmmmm Felton who will you be grooming to take over

I'd start with Pierre Jackson. Cut Chris Smith loose and bring in this kid IMMEDIATLEY (I no longer look at our 3 current PGs as a team strength---the position is in dire need of an upgrade). Why trade for Isaiah Thomas when we could pick up this guy for nothing?? He's no longer tied to the Pelicans btw -- as far I as can see they drafted him, he opted to go play in France on account of NO's crowded backcourt situation, then never played a game in France, instead electing to play for the Idaho Stampede of the NBDL. Double checked again yesterday -- he's not on their 15-man roster..I liked him a lot his last 2 yrs at Baylor. He'd bring an exciting uptempo 'scoring point' type of style that none of our 3 PG can bring with any type of consistency whatsoever...Dude can also pass it -- racked up a ton of assists at Baylor as well.. I've read Isaiah Thomas comparisons -- I can see that somewhat but I feel this guy plays bigger & is more athletic/explosive/dynamic -- maybe something closer to Kemba Walker with some Nate Robinson (only the good qualities---PJ's more of a true point and plays more under control). I'd love to add Jackson AND Seth Curry (2 different styles completely yet I feel they'd compliment each other along with everything we already have in place as well). Together with Toure Murry, that's a nice young trio of guards to move forward with, with or without Shumpert. Instant positive facelift for our entire backcourt. Jackson and Curry are FA D-Leaguers; Canaan would require a trade with the Rockets--I don't think he's looked as good as the other 2 so far anyway (although he just turned in his best performance so far his last game--definitely worth keeping an eye on although I wouldn't let Morey rape me in a trade for this guy--I'd just assume focus on adding one of the other 2 or both for nothing).

And like I've been saying, don't stop there. Look for similar frontcourt solutions as well. Gotta try Aldrich first to see if he could have an impact (I think he could---their refusal to try this kid out with Chandler sidelined infuriates and continues to baffle the hell outta me). After that, I continue to think that 7' C Marcus Cousin is one of the most well-rounded big man additions we could possible make. This guy would be my first choice. I don't care that he has no NBA experience -- so does every young player coming in from the draft every single year). The man's game is NBA ready -- he's right at 7' 255, he can shoot the ball out to about 20' extraordinarily well for someone that size, plays pick & pop/roll extemely well and also shows variety and effectiveness in the post. Good FT shooter too. Also supplies plus rebounding on both ends which is really what separates him from someone like Channing Frye for example...I'd kill to add this guy. He's played in the DL and Europe/Japan the past few years, continuing to perfect his craft. Picture Channing Frye on offense (minus a few feet of shooting range) but with more offensive variety overall and he's way more physical and willing to mix it up inside...He'd be a Godsend here...Also intrigued about adding an adept shot-blocker as well, even at the expense of polish and NBA-readiness in other areas (Hassan Whiteside or Jordan Henriquez possibly?). And then I'm interested in Malcolm Thomas or Kevin Jones as a potential full-time STAT/K-Mart alternative at the 4. This Malcolm Thomas looks like he's really improved his game since college. Dude's playing at a super high level in the DL so far, scoring and rebounding the ball like a demon...Looks like a very talented/athletic 4-man we could add for nothing... Jeremy Tyler should also remain in the mix as well, if & when he gets back on the court and shows no ill effects from the broken foot. If he's healthy, he could become something close to Vin Baker eventually, best case scenario..

Together, all these moves (say we cut 3 from our current roster starting with Chris Smith, then substituted a combination of 3 of the above players) could really add some excitement to our team as well as going a long way toward addressing some of our weaknesses. I'd definitely go this route as a last resort before throwing the towel in on everything. Forget last resort -- I would've executed this plan already..

I like Pierre Jackson, as a Nate Robinson with actual PG skills, CP3 isn't very big but is the best pure PG in the league

nixluva wrote:Still don't understand how we haven't done a thing to improve at PG when the need is so obvious!!! Me and my sons are always joking how it's not possible that there isn't some PG out there in the D League or Europe better than what we have. At least try to fix the problem!

Agreed. Best thing about these type of moves are that they wouldn't cost a thing. We'd be no worse for the ware if they didn't work out. 10-day contracts, maybe a second 10-day contract...No trading away the few assets we do have -- or at least we'd get to save the good assets we do have for something else. See to me, trading away Shumpert for a guy like Isaiah Thomas makes no sense when I could go out and just sign similar talent like Pierre Jackson (better imo) w/o giving up a thing...Only talking a modest amount of money, league minimum money. And to avert the problem of guys like Chris Copeland having the one decent year and then walking away for bigger money, offer a few of these guys 2 or even 3-year deals. At least that would transition them right through to their early Bird and full Bird rights and then we'll have a legit shot to keep 'em. In our sorry ass state of affairs, lets see if we can uncover a jewel or 2 here and plug some glaring holes in the process.

Finestrg wrote:

nixluva wrote:Still don't understand how we haven't done a thing to improve at PG when the need is so obvious!!! Me and my sons are always joking how it's not possible that there isn't some PG out there in the D League or Europe better than what we have. At least try to fix the problem!

Agreed. Best thing about these type of moves are that they wouldn't cost a thing. We'd be no worse for the ware if they didn't work out. 10-day contracts, maybe a second 10-day contract...No trading away the few assets we do have -- or at least we'd get to save the good assets we do have for something else. See to me, trading away Shumpert for a guy like Isaiah Thomas makes no sense when I could go out and just sign similar talent like Pierre Jackson (better imo) w/o giving up a thing...Only talking a modest amount of money, league minimum money. And to avert the problem of guys like Chris Copeland having the one decent year and then walking away for bigger money, offer a few of these guys 2 or even 3-year deals. At least that would transition them right through to their early Bird and full Bird rights and then we'll have a legit shot to keep 'em. In our sorry ass state of affairs, lets see if we can uncover a jewel or 2 here and plug some glaring holes in the process.

Pierre Jackson would be a star here. Any of these guys would become instant stars. Nyc loves their point guards

playa2 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:How does pierre Jackson end up in the dleague is beyond me

In some cases when you aren't professional enough and a little ruff around the edges you end up in that league.

Seth curry though?

EnySpree wrote:

playa2 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:How does pierre Jackson end up in the dleague is beyond me

In some cases when you aren't professional enough and a little ruff around the edges you end up in that league.

Seth curry though?

Seth didn't look that great with the Warriors in training camp. It takes a while to get used to the speed of the NBA game sometimes. I think Canaan is signed with Houston, who already started the year with a logjam at point.

Vmart wrote:I don't think getting these players is the problem. The real problem here is getting these players and letting the rot on the bench because that is what Woody would do. Essential the Knicks would be adding these PGs and we would watch them sit on their ass.

the sad truth....

That is why we need an entire new MANAGEMENT, system/plan/philosophy that works TOGETHER on building a team, collecting assets, and PLAYER DEVELOPMENT
MOST important is to have Dolan stay out of decisions and have the trust to let them do their job

RonRon wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't think getting these players is the problem. The real problem here is getting these players and letting the rot on the bench because that is what Woody would do. Essential the Knicks would be adding these PGs and we would watch them sit on their ass.

the sad truth....

That is why we need an entire new MANAGEMENT, system/plan/philosophy that works TOGETHER on building a team, collecting assets, and PLAYER DEVELOPMENT
MOST important is to have Dolan stay out of decisions and have the trust to let them do their job

Wishful thinking Ron Ron.

Remember what Dolan said about Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.

It won't matter who we bring in if this statement is true. Isiah loves to make excecutive basketball decisions, beyond scouting players.