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11/30/2013  6:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/1/2013  7:14 PM
Top 13

#1 Joel Embiid C-7-0
#2 Jabari Parker F 6-8
#3 Marcus Smart PG 6-4
#4 Kyle AndersenPG 6-9
#5 Juluis Randle PF 6-9
#6 Zach Levine SG 6-5
#7 Noah Vonleh PF 6-10
#8 Andre Wiggins SF 6-8
#9 Dante Exum PG 6-6
#10 Jahii Carson PG 5-11
#11 Nik Staukus SG 6-6
#12 Jordan Bachynskii C 7-2
#13 Doug Mcdermott F 6-7
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#14 Olivier Hanlan PG 6-3 BC
#15 Alex Kirk 7-0 C New Mexico
#16 Alex Payne PF Michigan State 6-10
#17 Roscoe Smith F 6-8 UNLV
#18 Jordan Clarkson G 6-5 MIzz
#19 Cory Jefferson F Baylor 6-9
#20 Cady Lalanne C Mass 6-10
#21 Jordan Adams UCLA 6-5 SG

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11/30/2013  6:52 AM
why wiggyiggywiggins at 8, briggsywiggsy?
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11/30/2013  8:15 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:why wiggyiggywiggins at 8, briggsywiggsy?

Cuz outside the hype the other guys are much more polished players. Wiggins still has the lazy tag. And he's showing it at the college level by coasting and disappearing. He's still a freak but the other guys are freaks too.

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11/30/2013  9:22 AM
Trust me , that top 13 list will change after the NCAA TOURNAMENT.
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11/30/2013  10:20 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:why wiggyiggywiggins at 8, briggsywiggsy?

Take away the hype and look at the difference in play between Wiggins and Levine who is every bit of athlete that Wiggins is yet can also handle and shoot it much better.

I think the top 3 are Smart Randle Embiid then it tiers through the next 7 and tapers down at 11. I think you have 10 great players in the draft at the top all star to franchise player types.

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BRIGGS wrote:Top 13

#1 Joel Embiid C-7-0
#2 Jabari Parker F 6-8
#3 Marcus Smart PG 6-4
#4 Kyle AndersenPG 6-9 - overated since day 1..i saw many of this kids games at st anthonys. Still hasnt evolved
#5 Juluis Randle PF 6-9
#6 Zach Levine SG 6-5
#7 Noah Vonleh PF 6-10
#8 Andre Wiggins SF 6-8
#9 Dante Exum PG 6-6
#10 Jahii Carson PG 5-11
#11 Nik Staukus SG 6-6 - better but not lottery good yet
#12 Jordan Bachynskii C 7-2 -dont really know him
#13 Doug Mcdermott F 6-7 - not atheleitc enough. Korver 2.0

1. Jabari parker
2. Marcus smart
3. Joel embiid
4. julius randle
5. Andrew wiggins
6. Aaron gordon
7. Dante exum
8. Noah vonleh
9. Adrien payne
10. Cory Jefferson
11. Jahii carson
12. Patrik young
13. Brandon ashley

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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11/30/2013  1:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/30/2013  1:51 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:why wiggyiggywiggins at 8, briggsywiggsy?

Take away the hype and look at the difference in play between Wiggins and Levine who is every bit of athlete that Wiggins is yet can also handle and shoot it much better.

I think the top 3 are Smart Randle Embiid then it tiers through the next 7 and tapers down at 11. I think you have 10 great players in the draft at the top all star to franchise player types.

I like Levine, but even I have to admit that he's not every bit the athlete Wiggins is. He is also smaller. Kyle Andersen used to be a polarizing player, but not anymore. I think most people agree he's a late first-rounder at best. The kid has no position. Think Luke Walton. I think McDermott will be a lot better than people think and I expect Carson to rise up the draft boards. Carson has that second-gear you like to see in an NBA point guard. But Parker is the number one pick hands down. I'm not saying there aren't other player in the draft who don't have the potential to become better, but Parker is the one guy who's ready to step in and contribute right now.

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11/30/2013  2:37 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:why wiggyiggywiggins at 8, briggsywiggsy?

Take away the hype and look at the difference in play between Wiggins and Levine who is every bit of athlete that Wiggins is yet can also handle and shoot it much better.

I think the top 3 are Smart Randle Embiid then it tiers through the next 7 and tapers down at 11. I think you have 10 great players in the draft at the top all star to franchise player types.

I like Levine, but even I have to admit that he's not every bit the athlete Wiggins is. He is also smaller. Kyle Andersen used to be a polarizing player, but not anymore. I think most people agree he's a late first-rounder at best. The kid has no position. Think Luke Walton. I think McDermott will be a lot better than people think and I expect Carson to rise up the draft boards. Carson has that second-gear you like to see in an NBA point guard. But Parker is the number one pick hands down. I'm not saying there aren't other player in the draft who don't have the potential to become better, but Parker is the one guy who's ready to step in and contribute right now.

Kyle Andersen is the best pure ph and he's 6 9. He's just starting to show his enormous potential by averaging near a triple double. He's shooting much better and he's running the pg position the way you want it run and at 69 There is no other player like him. Zack levine is just as explosive as wiggins but zack can actually shoot the ball

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11/30/2013  3:30 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:why wiggyiggywiggins at 8, briggsywiggsy?

Take away the hype and look at the difference in play between Wiggins and Levine who is every bit of athlete that Wiggins is yet can also handle and shoot it much better.

I think the top 3 are Smart Randle Embiid then it tiers through the next 7 and tapers down at 11. I think you have 10 great players in the draft at the top all star to franchise player types.

I like Levine, but even I have to admit that he's not every bit the athlete Wiggins is. He is also smaller. Kyle Andersen used to be a polarizing player, but not anymore. I think most people agree he's a late first-rounder at best. The kid has no position. Think Luke Walton. I think McDermott will be a lot better than people think and I expect Carson to rise up the draft boards. Carson has that second-gear you like to see in an NBA point guard. But Parker is the number one pick hands down. I'm not saying there aren't other player in the draft who don't have the potential to become better, but Parker is the one guy who's ready to step in and contribute right now.

Kyle Andersen is the best pure ph and he's 6 9. He's just starting to show his enormous potential by averaging near a triple double. He's shooting much better and he's running the pg position the way you want it run and at 69 There is no other player like him. Zack levine is just as explosive as wiggins but zack can actually shoot the ball

I dunno Briggs. Kyle's numbers look awfully similar to Luke Walton's in college, right down to the underwhelming FG%. I'm not saying he can't be an NBA contributor, but he still has a lot of work left to do.

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11/30/2013  3:32 PM
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BRIGGS wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:why wiggyiggywiggins at 8, briggsywiggsy?

Take away the hype and look at the difference in play between Wiggins and Levine who is every bit of athlete that Wiggins is yet can also handle and shoot it much better.

I think the top 3 are Smart Randle Embiid then it tiers through the next 7 and tapers down at 11. I think you have 10 great players in the draft at the top all star to franchise player types.

I like Levine, but even I have to admit that he's not every bit the athlete Wiggins is. He is also smaller. Kyle Andersen used to be a polarizing player, but not anymore. I think most people agree he's a late first-rounder at best. The kid has no position. Think Luke Walton. I think McDermott will be a lot better than people think and I expect Carson to rise up the draft boards. Carson has that second-gear you like to see in an NBA point guard. But Parker is the number one pick hands down. I'm not saying there aren't other player in the draft who don't have the potential to become better, but Parker is the one guy who's ready to step in and contribute right now.

Kyle Andersen is the best pure ph and he's 6 9. He's just starting to show his enormous potential by averaging near a triple double. He's shooting much better and he's running the pg position the way you want it run and at 69 There is no other player like him. Zack levine is just as explosive as wiggins but zack can actually shoot the ball

I dunno Briggs. Kyle's numbers look awfully similar to Luke Walton's in college, right down to the underwhelming FG%. I'm not saying he can't be an NBA contributor, but he still has a lot of work left to do.

Forget the numbers--Kyle is the best pure PG in CBB and hes 6-9. His back detrimant as his shooting but that is coming around

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11/30/2013  3:43 PM
I think kyle might be the purest pg but hes not explosive..cant shoot and hes lazy on defense. Ive been watching this kid since ye was a boy cuz im friends with his mother here in jersey city. hres basically a slower version of micharl carter williams
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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11/30/2013  3:44 PM
He has alot to prove still. But yes hr has poyential.
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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11/30/2013  3:45 PM
Please dont sleep on adrien payne at mich st and cory jefferaon at baylor. Both 6-10 tough big men who can reb, def and shoot (lamarcus alridge clones)
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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11/30/2013  5:17 PM
callmened wrote:Please dont sleep on adrien payne at mich st and cory jefferaon at baylor. Both 6-10 tough big men who can reb, def and shoot (lamarcus alridge clones)

I like Cory, I just don't like Baylor or their coaching staff. That team continues to recruit high level athletes and none of those guys ever seem to be prepared for the league.
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11/30/2013  9:18 PM
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callmened wrote:Please dont sleep on adrien payne at mich st and cory jefferaon at baylor. Both 6-10 tough big men who can reb, def and shoot (lamarcus alridge clones)

I like Cory, I just don't like Baylor or their coaching staff. That team continues to recruit high level athletes and none of those guys ever seem to be prepared for the league.

I agree. Ie issac austin and perry jones

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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11/30/2013  9:19 PM
Andrew wiggins stock is dropping the more he plays college basketball. 2-9 with 4 pts against the almight utep team. He obviously has talent but in college teams will dbl team you. Meanwhile joel embiid and perry ellis are lottery picks that looks better than wiggins
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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12/1/2013  4:56 AM
callmened wrote:Andrew wiggins stock is dropping the more he plays college basketball. 2-9 with 4 pts against the almight utep team. He obviously has talent but in college teams will dbl team you. Meanwhile joel embiid and perry ellis are lottery picks that looks better than wiggins

Wow that's nuts,

I don't follow college ball (because I have philosophical stance against sports in academia) but this Wiggins guy was hyped as the next LeBron,

to hear that he is dropping off so drastically is wild news to me!!!

If he went from high school to NBA, we would be talking about the greatest flop of all the ages, like Kwame Brown

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12/1/2013  9:16 AM
Embiid yest against Utep in 20 min 9 pts 6 reb 7 blocks 2 steals 1 assist
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Im going to throw myself off the roof of MSG if we end up winning the draft lottery and dont have a pick
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14 Olivier Hanlan PG 6-3 BC
15 Alex Kirk 7-0 C New Mexico
16 Alex Payne PF Michigan State 6-10
17 Roscoe Smith F 6-8 UNLV
18 Jordan Clarkson G 6-5
19 Cory Jefferson F Baylor 6-9
20 Cady Lalanne C Mass 6-10
21 Jordan Adams UCLA 6-5 SG

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