Everyone talks about Melo moving the ball. To who is he going to depend on to knock down a shot. They can't shoot the ball thats why his assists are low. JR played for a contract last year and Felton thinks he's a shooter but he is not. No way can this team the way it's put together can they win. They will wear down Melo. You can't blame Melo if he bounce after this season. And Amare talking about moving the ball around. What a joke. The man have butter fingers. In all due respect he needs to retire and we pay him to work as a coach or in some other way. I doubt if we make the playoffs. Our only hope will be if Amaer retires. Since he wants to play let him play until he realize that its over for him and he is killing the team with his salary. Dolan and Woodson got in Shump's head and he is done. He loved New York and I think he feels he's been betrayed by Woodson and Dolan. If I was Melo I would be afraid to pass the ball to someone who you know is going to throw up a brick.
Well by me being a die hard Knicks fan it hurts. We will see whats in Melo's heart at the end of this season and if Amare really cares about this team he would retire and get paid another way by Dolan. Amare would have signed for 4 years with the Knicks why 5 years I will never know. We should have Amisteed Amare.

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Everyone talks about Melo moving the ball. To who is he going to depend on to knock down a shot. They can't shoot the ball thats why his assists are low. JR played for a contract last year and Felton thinks he's a shooter but he is not. No way can this team the way it's put together can they win. They will wear down Melo. You can't blame Melo if he bounce after this season. And Amare talking about moving the ball around. What a joke. The man have butter fingers. In all due respect he needs to retire and we pay him to work as a coach or in some other way. I doubt if we make the playoffs. Our only hope will be if Amaer retires. Since he wants to play let him play until he realize that its over for him and he is killing the team with his salary. Dolan and Woodson got in Shump's head and he is done. He loved New York and I think he feels he's been betrayed by Woodson and Dolan. If I was Melo I would be afraid to pass the ball to someone who you know is going to throw up a brick.
Well by me being a die hard Knicks fan it hurts. We will see whats in Melo's heart at the end of this season and if Amare really cares about this team he would retire and get paid another way by Dolan. Amare would have signed for 4 years with the Knicks why 5 years I will never know. We should have Amisteed Amare.

But lets be honest Melo is shooting like crap as well....and hasnt shot 425 on the season since he was a rookie.

Papabear wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Everyone talks about Melo moving the ball. To who is he going to depend on to knock down a shot. They can't shoot the ball thats why his assists are low. JR played for a contract last year and Felton thinks he's a shooter but he is not. No way can this team the way it's put together can they win. They will wear down Melo. You can't blame Melo if he bounce after this season. And Amare talking about moving the ball around. What a joke. The man have butter fingers. In all due respect he needs to retire and we pay him to work as a coach or in some other way. I doubt if we make the playoffs. Our only hope will be if Amaer retires. Since he wants to play let him play until he realize that its over for him and he is killing the team with his salary. Dolan and Woodson got in Shump's head and he is done. He loved New York and I think he feels he's been betrayed by Woodson and Dolan. If I was Melo I would be afraid to pass the ball to someone who you know is going to throw up a brick.
Well by me being a die hard Knicks fan it hurts. We will see whats in Melo's heart at the end of this season and if Amare really cares about this team he would retire and get paid another way by Dolan. Amare would have signed for 4 years with the Knicks why 5 years I will never know. We should have Amisteed Amare.

Welcome to the dark side.

But lets be honest Melo is shooting like crap as well....and hasnt shot 425 on the season since he was a rookie.

Papabear Says

Welcome to the dark side??? Are you joking? That may be you but not me. I will always be a die hard Knicks fan. You must have read my post wrong. And Melo is always double teamed and the others are not and still can't knock down a shot. Until the Knicks player prove they can knock down shots players from the other team will ignore them and let them shot because the percentages say they will brick the shot.

Papabear wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Everyone talks about Melo moving the ball. To who is he going to depend on to knock down a shot. They can't shoot the ball thats why his assists are low. JR played for a contract last year and Felton thinks he's a shooter but he is not. No way can this team the way it's put together can they win. They will wear down Melo. You can't blame Melo if he bounce after this season. And Amare talking about moving the ball around. What a joke. The man have butter fingers. In all due respect he needs to retire and we pay him to work as a coach or in some other way. I doubt if we make the playoffs. Our only hope will be if Amaer retires. Since he wants to play let him play until he realize that its over for him and he is killing the team with his salary. Dolan and Woodson got in Shump's head and he is done. He loved New York and I think he feels he's been betrayed by Woodson and Dolan. If I was Melo I would be afraid to pass the ball to someone who you know is going to throw up a brick.
Well by me being a die hard Knicks fan it hurts. We will see whats in Melo's heart at the end of this season and if Amare really cares about this team he would retire and get paid another way by Dolan. Amare would have signed for 4 years with the Knicks why 5 years I will never know. We should have Amisteed Amare.

Welcome to the dark side.

But lets be honest Melo is shooting like crap as well....and hasnt shot 425 on the season since he was a rookie.

Papabear Says

Welcome to the dark side??? Are you joking? That may be you but not me. I will always be a die hard Knicks fan. You must have read my post wrong. And Melo is always double teamed and the others are not and still can't knock down a shot. Until the Knicks player prove they can knock down shots players from the other team will ignore them and let them shot because the percentages say they will brick the shot.

You're finally admitting this team is trash, we're all Knicks fans otherwise we wouldnt be here.

Papabear Says

I would not call the team trash that is a word that a lot of haters use and I'm not calling you a hater because I know you are not. I will only say that when Dolan and Woody got in Shumps head and then told him that he probably would loose his starting job to JR Smith and the trade rummors just crushed Shump. Chandler being out injured and the biggest thing of all was the signing of Chriss Smith and they really needed another big man. That was really politics at its worse. Also Dolan letting the GM go at the start of the season. You see there were many things that hurt this team. They needed another shooter and they depended on JR Smith. Other teams now can tripple team Melo because they know the other players can't shoot or defend.

Everyone knew this team needed better pg play and a legitimate backup big....and that just roster related.

we questioned the leadership of this squad before the season started.

Even before all of these episodes, some knew this team would not be as good, and they arent.

Which is exactly why I placed my expectations low....not disappointed at because I didnt expect much.

just didnt think they'd be this bad.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Kevin Durant's teammates shot below 40% in the playoffs but he averaged over 6 assists a game - almost 7 in the 2nd round. You're overestimating the impact of teammate quality on assist totals. It matters a little but not a lot. Having teammates who shoot 48% instead of the Knicks 42% - making an extra 6 out of every 100 shots - would give only a tiny boost to a player's assist totals.

Papabear Says

So what are you trying to imply?? Forget the playoffs thats done and gone. Durant has Westbrooks and better players all around. Who does Melo has?? Bad comparison bro try again.

I specifically referred to the playoffs because Westbrook was out.
Those so called "better players" couldn't even shoot 40%.
Regarding who does Melo have, the answer is "better scorers than Durant had when he averaged 7 assists a game"

Bonn Bonn when it comes to Melo you are irreverent because you are very bias come on now the reason why Durant had assists was because the player he sent the ball to made shots and Melos players didn't.Kidd was thinking about coaching the Net texing back and forth. We all know how you feel about Melo. enough said I don't respect your opinion on Melo you are bias bro.

The enabling of Melo by this coach is remakrble, though, given that MDA got pushed out because he didn't enable Melo coulndt have been lost on Woodson.

The ball is in Melo and Smith's hands way too often, and both are shoot-first types.

Hit the open man is not nostalgia - its a wise strategy, but not part of this team's DNA

1)he is auditioning or
2)because he is trying to save face after his "i want to test free agency" gaffe or
3)he is trying in his own extremely misguided way to help the team win

his game is very weird to watch this season, almost like he is about to have a nervous breakdown.