This was a great game to help build Bargnani's confidence and his teammates confidence in him. Every player needs that game that marks the true start of their career with a new team. He isn't even clicking on all cylinders yet but that is an example of what this guy can do with hard work. I'm glad that Woody kept his support for Bargs regardless of the pressure to give up on the guy. With more and more work hopefully Bargs can grow from here and become a better help defender. I like what I saw tonight from him accepting the challenge. Gotta get that from him more often.

The Talent is in there and tho he doesn't have a high motor AB showed a lot more effort tonight. AB was moving his feet on the perimeter and getting his hands up on multiple jump shooters. He doesn't get a lot of credit for that kind of effort because of the poor defense of the paint, but tonight he did much better and protecting the basket. If he can keep progressing like this it will be great for the Knicks as they get healthy and develop more chemistry.

It was fun, good game.

For Bargs and Stat it was a good nite to get momentum going against Biyumbo and zeller.

They'll have tougher opponents fur sure.....

blkexec wrote:After listening to Bargs post game interview, not I understand why there are so many ISO's or inconsistent offensive play. Bargs said they are free to do what they want to do on offense, as long as they play defense. Thats explains everything! We will continue to be up and down all year, until Woodson provides more structure on offense.

You can tell just by watching that they aren't running a lot of set plays. You see the confusion and spacing breaking down, with guys getting in each others way.

Tonight I saw a better effort of trying to get AB involved in more PnP plays which is smart. Woody seems to not want to call a lot of plays, which is his prerogative but I'd like to see them run more so the offense is much more efficient. At least to start the year you'd like to script more plays so that the right style of play is established. Bargs being in the mix now makes things a bit more complicated and thus it would seem that it's more necessary to run really good plays. Part of AB looking lost is due to poorly executed sets.

The few times they get into a "Scissors" play or "Horns" it hasn't looked sharp like last year. I was happy to see more curl plays in this last game. More PnP for Bargs at the elbow and out at the 3pt line. Even tho Bargs didn't hit enough of his 3's it was still important for him to take those shots cuz it effects the defense. They "believe" he can make those shots and anytime he does it just further cements the idea that he's dangerous and that will open up the middle as defenses try to cover him away from the basket. This is a process.

IronWillGiroud wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Yes i did like what i saw from Bargnani, he was the biggest reason we won. However, and im not tryin to sound like a hater because i really do like Bargs and hope he continues but we have to keep in mind that the Bobcats are pretty terrible. Not taking anything away from bargs but he has to do this more consistently especially against better competition

yea,

if bargs brings this when the going gets tough, then he is welcome,

Anji wrote:I think Bargs should be the main guy off the bench when TC get's back.

I'm starting to think that like Amare, Bargs is not as effective when his isn't manning the 5 with at lot to space to work.

He needs to post, he needs to be the pick and pop/roll option, he needs the other teams biggest player on him and that last part doesn't happen when he plays with other 7 footers.

Maybe the injuries had a big part in his down seasons, but if you look it's also the same time when Amir Johnson's, Ed Davis', and Jonas Valanciunas' where starting to be inserted into the Raptors starting line up... Maybe playing with Tyson is tough for our 2 finesse centers Bargs/Amare. Tyson has
WAY more value than both put together so: Start TC, make Bargs the center off the bench and put Amare on a slow boat to china.

I think moving TC is best for the Knicks he brings nothing to the team. I would move TC and THJ to the Hawks for Al Horford.

Vmart wrote:

Anji wrote:I think Bargs should be the main guy off the bench when TC get's back.

I'm starting to think that like Amare, Bargs is not as effective when his isn't manning the 5 with at lot to space to work.

He needs to post, he needs to be the pick and pop/roll option, he needs the other teams biggest player on him and that last part doesn't happen when he plays with other 7 footers.

Maybe the injuries had a big part in his down seasons, but if you look it's also the same time when Amir Johnson's, Ed Davis', and Jonas Valanciunas' where starting to be inserted into the Raptors starting line up... Maybe playing with Tyson is tough for our 2 finesse centers Bargs/Amare. Tyson has
WAY more value than both put together so: Start TC, make Bargs the center off the bench and put Amare on a slow boat to china.

I think moving TC is best for the Knicks he brings nothing to the team. I would move TC and THJ to the Hawks for Al Horford.

Horford and Asik are the only two I trade Chandler for. However I don't think its a big need if Tyson play like he was. If Bargs continue his good play then they could easily change his duties to create space. Let him focus more on a side PnRs and decrease his high PnR duties. Bargs has to seriously up his play though for that to happen

Bonn1997 wrote:

Anji wrote:I don't about that, TC this year was beasting, over the course of a season he would easily be a MVP top 10 candidate the way he was playing in the first 3-4 games. If that TC could be on the court for for 28 minutes and last nights Bargs could be on the court for 20 minutes, this team would be extremely difficult to beat.

Yeah, so many people here don't care about anything other than PPG.

yea, people are going nuts over one game in which bargnani took 25 shots to get 25 points.. I think people are so excited with seeing him resemble anything other than a bust, that they overrate last nights game vs the bobcats, and the same with carmelo.. his first decent game of the year.. well gooooly ( in my gomer pile voice) the dude is getting 20 mil a year, nice to see him play a decent game one out of 4..

during the course of the year, almost every player will have a game or two in which he looks like a MVP calibre player.. the difference is, the good players give this every night or most nights.. bargnani hasn't, doesn't, won't..

good win for the knicks no doubt, but no need to go overboard.. what chandler was bringing every night was more valuable to this team, and he has proven he can do it over the course of a season. that will be missed.. I could care less if bargnani ever played another minute.. he is a bum.. get chandler back soon!!

I liked what Woody said in the interview- he said before the game he told his assistants that Bargs had to speak up more and act like he's a part of this. That was exactly right- since he came here, Bargs has looked like a polite guest. About time he asserted himself!

Hopefully he builds on this!