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holfresh
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11/1/2013  9:24 PM

The Nets are huge, Miami is having trouble with their size...Indy is a big team...Chicago is big...Miami gets by on their athleticism...Houston is big...OKC is big...Memphis is big...LAC can be big...Small ball can work in some games..But come playoff time, where the game becomes a half court game, the bigger team have the advantage..It's why Indy gave Miami so much fits in the ECF...We have to give Bargs the time to get comfortable...It might come down to go big or go home...
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11/1/2013  9:26 PM
^Exactly

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11/1/2013  10:58 PM
Bargnani is 7' but plays like a midget
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11/1/2013  11:10 PM
You can go big but you need skilled bigs. Knicks do not have that.
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11/1/2013  11:26 PM
Going "big" with Bargnani is pointless. When those other teams go big they're talking about playing defense and rebounding, two things that he sucks at.
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11/2/2013  12:26 AM
VCoug wrote:Going "big" with Bargnani is pointless. When those other teams go big they're talking about playing defense and rebounding, two things that he sucks at.

He sucks at everything
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11/2/2013  4:02 AM
If anyone who is down on Bargs was paying attention to the Bulls game when he had the ball you saw how frustrated Noah was trying to guard him. He hates trying to guard AB because it takes him away from the basket and exposes him. He got beat by AB pump fake and quick jumpers. Bigs in general will have issues with AB and that's the little edge we could use in a playoff series. None of them want to come out and guard him.

AB may not rebound but his defense has been far better than some want to give him credit for. He's a good man defender and he's trying to give a better effort on D so far. All this and we still haven't seen AB at his best. If we can get him back to full confidence in his game he's gonna be a problem for teams. No he's not a perfect player but there is a role for him in the scheme of things for this team.
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11/2/2013  1:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2013  3:47 PM
Bargs isn't a good rebounder but his size can affect inside play...He can be disruptive..We need that guy..Detroit also has gone big and is playing well...Everyone seems to be responding to Miami's weakness and Indy's play seemed to have exposed that...Over matched Melo at the 4 won't work this year...
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11/2/2013  3:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2013  3:07 PM
“We haven’t been together that long,” Woodson said. “We’ve experimented a little bit in the exhibition season, but not the big minutes where you can actually sit back and know how you feel about things: Is this going to work, not work?” - Mike Woodson

As Woodson noted after the game, the Knicks were one of the league’s better late-game defensive teams last season, and he wants them to have the same approach. Through two games, the anchor has been Chandler, who appears re-energized after an injury-marred postseason. He had 19 rebounds against Chicago.

The Bulls, a championship contender, endured stretches in Thursday’s game when they were completely baffled by the Knicks’ defense.

- Scott Cacciola, NYTimes

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11/2/2013  4:14 PM
Going big and playing big is two different things. Some teams like miami go small and play big. Knicks go big and play small. Knicks go small and play even smaller. Pick your poison.
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11/2/2013  4:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2013  4:23 PM
Bargs and artest are key. Regardless if bargs plays or not....the other teams pf must leave the paint and play defense. Its about our team chemistry on both ends. So far iso ball and melo forcing his offense is our biggest weakness. It deflats the team overall. Even if he's hot. Too much standing and no movement which hurts offensive chemistry. Melo is the best and worse player to have if he's your best player. Woody needs to create quick plays for melo. Melo needs to stop forcing against elite defenders. Thats when he should run pick and rolls with chandler or barbs.
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11/2/2013  4:25 PM
Regardless of whether or not we play big, other teams are putting bigger lineups out there...Melo @ the 4 and Prigs in the staring lineup against the Nets, Indy, Memphis, etc?, we wont have a chance...
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11/2/2013  5:51 PM
But Bargs isnt a big man sure he is tall but when a guy plays 25 minutes and gets 1 rebound at PF you are not playing big
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11/2/2013  7:22 PM
Denver has an absolute logjam at PF, we should talk to them.
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11/2/2013  7:31 PM
loweyecue wrote:Denver has an absolute logjam at PF, we should talk to them.

Hickson is the only one of interest to me, and they can have JR Smith back for him.
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11/2/2013  7:44 PM
knickscity wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Denver has an absolute logjam at PF, we should talk to them.

Hickson is the only one of interest to me, and they can have JR Smith back for him.

Why can't Hickson stick with any team??
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11/2/2013  8:37 PM
knickscity wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Denver has an absolute logjam at PF, we should talk to them.

Hickson is the only one of interest to me, and they can have JR Smith back for him.

I would approach Houston. They have a lot of young PFs.
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11/2/2013  8:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2013  8:45 PM
blkexec wrote:Going big and playing big is two different things. Some teams like miami go small and play big. Knicks go big and play small. Knicks go small and play even smaller. Pick your poison.

You forgot when we go small we are small slow and old. Prigioni, Artest etc

Totally defeats the purpose of going small.

Yet the media is in love with the Knicks going small
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11/2/2013  8:48 PM
holfresh wrote:
knickscity wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Denver has an absolute logjam at PF, we should talk to them.

Hickson is the only one of interest to me, and they can have JR Smith back for him.

Why can't Hickson stick with any team??


I have no idea, he can definitely play.
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11/2/2013  9:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2013  9:22 PM
blkexec wrote:Bargs and artest are key. Regardless if bargs plays or not....the other teams pf must leave the paint and play defense. Its about our team chemistry on both ends. So far iso ball and melo forcing his offense is our biggest weakness. It deflats the team overall. Even if he's hot. Too much standing and no movement which hurts offensive chemistry. Melo is the best and worse player to have if he's your best player. Woody needs to create quick plays for melo. Melo needs to stop forcing against elite defenders. Thats when he should run pick and rolls with chandler or barbs.

woodson can tell melo to make quicker decisions but that does not mean melo will do that.

pretty sure karl tried and d'antoni tried... nothing

woodson will success where they have failed or maybe we just admit melo is just not a good decision-maker period. he's had ten years to develop but has basically flatlined.

take the last play in chicago. he gets the ball with five+ seconds left and waits a full two seconds, maybe three before launching. he has to to put the ball on the floor right away but no-- we get a 25-foot brick instead from downtown when a two-point basket or a pair of free throws will do.

but you're right melo is much more effective off of screens, especially two brush screens going from right to left free throw line extended. the other shot he excels at is that spin move to the right baseline from about 12-15 feet out. woodson should be drawing up those sorts of plays in endgame situations. take the decision-making out of melo's hands!

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