Bonn1997 wrote:He's not good enough to give up assets for. We should have waited to see if Toronto was going to amnesty him and then offered him a league min contract. That's how to steal a player. Otherwise, move on to someone else.

this isn't a thread about his acquisition, its about his horrid preseason shooting. whats up with that?

im willing to be patient with him as long as he plays some defense. at least hes getting blocks

BigSm00th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:He's not good enough to give up assets for. We should have waited to see if Toronto was going to amnesty him and then offered him a league min contract. That's how to steal a player. Otherwise, move on to someone else.

this isn't a thread about his acquisition, its about his horrid preseason shooting. whats up with that?

Bigsmooth I have watched intently.
Bargs is rushing his shot--he shoots the ball without eying the rim!!! he catches and shoots so fast he never sets. He hasnt played big minutes in 2 years--hes best for the 2nd unit at back up C where he can play in and out for 18-20 minutes. Hes not a 35 minute player right now. He has shown he plays better D than some thought and the double big in unit two with 3 guards would work wel.

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Bargnahe's ni needs to perform whether he is in the 1st or 2nd unit. Unless he is going to be relegated to the end of the bench he needs to play better. Amare and Kmart will play better and Bargnani will be this years Novak without the 3pt shot

I thought Amare looked really good. I just don't see anyway that he holds up for many games. If it was about work ethic and overcoming something I think he makes it back. I don't think that is the case. I think his knees are totally shot.

I thought amare was horrible. He can score but he's such a liability every where else.

gunsnewing wrote:Why was Bargnani able to play well with bosh and now he can't play next to Tyson. Is he trash 2yrs later at 27? It's preseason. Bargnani needs a chance to prove himself early because if he does well our ceiling will be higher. If Bargnani is a bust and relegated to the end of the bench they might as well pack it up and go home

callmened wrote:he better fix this quick before the garden starts to BOOOOOOOOOOO him. he thought Toronto was tough, he hasnt seen anthing yet...LOL

That's what concerns me most. If he doesn't get outta this funk soon, you know for a fact the boo birds will start to come out and that'll make it that much more harder for him. He's just not playing well, bottom line. Nothing's clicking for him at all. Not sure of the exact reasons. They're multiple I'm sure: Recovering from pneumonia, not being in top shape, new team (with much higher expectations), new teammates, new role, new city, etc. I for one WILL NEVER BOO the guy. I never boo any of my teams' players -- even A-Rod....I'll be patient & give him time to get there. Our fans are as fickle as they come though. I thought last night he looked a little better and more into it -- yeah, the shot still wasn't falling and he made some mistakes but his energy level was definitely up a notch -- you could see it esp. on defense. That's a start.

Overall, I just wanna see more effort...And offensively, I just want to see more conviction. he looks to be too passive and deferring too much to everyone else...I'd love to see him step up to the forefront and take charge a little more...I think if he remains a starter, the plan should be to get him off early and often...If he starts off well hitting a couple of shots, the easier things might become and the more comfortable he'll feel...Last night, I thought he was passing up open looks early on. Take those shots! Also, if I were Woody, I would've drew up the last play for AB last night...Imagine if AB tied the game or won it with a 3 on that last play? Everyone would've been lauding him today saying, "you see, that's why we brought him here!" It would've been worth a shot. Missed opportunity I thought.. Give this guy a chance to be a hero... We need him to play much bigger...Right now, he's not even a factor and it's gone on a few games now...Hopefully it'll come, man. Remaining hopeful.