- i can care less about the score. Im sure woody is playing players who wont even be on the team

-how did powell play? He used to play in atlanta with woody

-i see murry played. I know he can play defense but how did his offense look?

-why arent alrich & cdr playing?

-how is udrih playing? I see he had 5 asts but also 5 turnovers

-melo played the 3...how was is perimeter defense on rudy gay?

-lastly, are we still a 3pt shooting offense?

Thanks

i didn't see powell, he probably sucks though,

murry killed it, didn't really notice his offense but he looked smooth on the break and they nicknamed him Right Spot in the game thread, great awareness and energy; he's making the cut!

i don't know about cole and cdr, maybe next game,

udrih is a flat-footed bastard but he's serviceable; had some nice takes to the rim and dishes, i like him overall,

melo dropped buckets,

i don't know, but i know we were action packed bastards; timmy jr dropped a sick slam on their heads off a shump dish!!!!

JR SMITH WHO!?!?!?

Timmy jr in da house!

yellowboy90 wrote:The real question is what's up with Melo and Landry. Melo goes to another place when they are matched up. Also, did Melo just completely take Fields NBA confidence? Does Melo carry it around like Optimus caries the allspark matrix?

Lmao!!!

callmened wrote:Here are a couple questions for preseason game #2:

- i can care less about the score. Im sure woody is playing players who wont even be on the team

-how did powell play? He used to play in atlanta with woody

-i see murry played. I know he can play defense but how did his offense look?

-why arent alrich & cdr playing?

-how is udrih playing? I see he had 5 asts but also 5 turnovers

-melo played the 3...how was is perimeter defense on rudy gay?

-lastly, are we still a 3pt shooting offense?

Thanks

DVRed the game and caught the replay:

- Powell looked OK again. He's giving effort -- a few nice blocks the first couple of games. Looks like he's got some soft touch too.. I don't think he's more skilled than Diogu though (and a healthy Tyler) but surprisingly, he's the big Woody's been going to early and for more PT overall between he and Ike. It's only two games, I get that, but a weird pattern so far: Woody finally gets around to emptying the bench late in the 4th after not using these guys at all beforehand. It's odd -- guys like Diogu, Leslie, Murry last night etc. are inserted ice cold in a tight game after not playing at all the prior 3 quarters. Not sure what's up with that -- Woody's obviously trying to thrust them into a tight game (or a game with a 10 pt lead with a few mins to go in game 1) to see how they handle it but it's an odd way of evaluating guys I feel. I'd want him to play all these guys up for the final 3 spots for longer stretches. Let them come in much earlier and get warm, get comfortable. It'd be nice to see these certain guys for long stretches before any decisions are made on them. I dunno. Just feels strange. I don't need to see much more of Powell -- let's see more Diogu and contemplate if he's worth taking over an injured Jeremy Tyler or not.

- Woody finally went to Murry more than halfway through the 4th quarter after not playing the kid a lick so far -- I thought he looked real good. He just looks like he belongs. He handles it real well, he's poised, played his signature ball-hawk D (had at least 1 steal and drew a nice charge late), hit on a real sweet reverse layup and was willing to pull the trigger from deep in a tight game. He had a play where he tried to shake Austin Daye out on the perimeter and had his 3-pt attempt blocked by Daye -- but he handled it well. Didn't appear to rattle him at all. Nice young player. Breeny said it well -- he's just a good overall basketball player. Still like CDR more but the way Beno's looked up to this point (very shaky so far), Murry may make a tad more sense now. I'd still take CDR over Murry though myself. Wish there was room for both because I really like Murry a lot. I agree that they probably already know what CDR can do but I still wanna see him out there operating in our system, with our players. Woody should want to see that as well. Hopefully we see him tonight.

- Aldrich played again early. Looked merely OK. Looked good on the glass but again just like game 1--he looked a step slow guarding the interior on a few plays. The Aldrich I remember in college was a STANDOUT shot-blocker...much more active defensively. Haven't seen that yet outta him. Might be nerves, I dunno -- I'd like for him to go out there and let it all hang out -- challenge everything and don't be afraid to commit fouls. Play like an animal defensively! He's definitely capable of much more -- I want him to start showing it. Going through the motions out there a little bit.

- Udrih's been one of the biggest surprises so far and not in a good way. He's looked really shaky/sloppy with the ball and not comfortable out there at all. Guess he's just trying to get used to a new team, new personnel, etc. but you figure it'd be a much easier transition for him than it has, being a vet and all. Prigioni looks much more comfortable (and effective) by comparison. Just gotta get more comfortable..

- Melo looked great. Started off a little slow shooting the ball (the whole team did), then really turned it on and started killing it. I'd actually like to see a little less Melo and more CDR and even Leslie. Would've liked to have seen CDR go up against Rudy Gay for a stretch. Again, CDR's gotta finally play tonight in the 2nd of a back to back. If he doesn't then something's rotten in Denmark.

- Yeah, definitely still a 3-pt shooting team. Guys still have the steady green light to fire away. Really benefits THJ's game and plays to his main strength. That kid's money with his feet set. WOW. Picture perfect form, release and ball rotation. We all knew he could shoot but I didn't realize he was that good a shooter. Finishes well on the break too. Not a big creator off the dribble though, not the best handle and he's not great defensively -- these are the weaknesses and they're evident. The book on him was spot on -- he's basically everything we thought we'd be getting, even a better spot-up shooter probably. Wasn't sure if he'd be able to help us this early but I was wrong. He's definitely part of this rotation early on.

CrushAlot wrote:I disagree from some reviewing Diogu. I thought Ike played poorly. He seemed to be looking for his shot every time he touched the ball and he wasn't making his shot. I didn't see all of the first half so he may have had some minutes where he looked good that I missed. He also might be a guy that needs minutes and to get into a rhythm. The fourth quarter was pretty chaotic. Powell looked better to me but I think Aldrich is the keeper of that group.

Yeah, Ike didn't look great last night -- got bottled up inside/fumbled the ball at least once, missed a mid-range J (didn't shy away from taking that shot though which I liked) -- but again to be fair, he doesn't play at all the first 3 quarters and then enters with the game in the balance more than halfway through the 4th quarter and is expected to make something happen. That's a tough spot. Leslie and Murry--same boat...Ike's great length was evident on the glass going for rebounds at least.. I just feel he's capable of a lot more than Powell. I wanna see him much earlier tonight and for a more sustained stretch. Let's properly evaluate the guys that are up for these last few spots. I mean what if Woody threw Ike 25-30 mins and he responded with 18 & 10? Only natural to then contemplate Ike making this team, even over the injured Tyler perhaps (I still feel Aldrich is a lock, even though he hasn't played particularly well). Afford the man the opportunity. Start him tonight and let's see what he does with 30 mins.

EnySpree wrote:
I like ike Diogu he can get really deep in the post and he gets hard rebounds. Still with the guys we have I can't see him making the team. If we didn't have kmart I think he would have a shot.

WHAT?!?! what game were you watching?? Ike is a BUM!! the worst bum to ever wear our uniform, he gets deep in the post because he's a sloppy ****!!!

we LOST THE GAME BECAUSE OF IKE! not that it matters, it was a run out, but he was the reason we lost last night's game.

Beno is fine. It's pre season and he is probably just working the of season rust off. He looks good to me. A few of his turnovers had to do with timing. That will come as he gets used to everything. Other teams see a soft looking euro guy and they keep pressing him. He proceeds to take these kids to the rack almost at will. So it's gonna come. I think it's all timing and maybe a little bit of off season rust.

beno holds his own,

the young guys go at him hard they think he's weak, but beno holds his own and schools them in his own way.

he's a flat-footed bastard but he's an NBA baller no doubt about it, he'll get to the hole, he'll dish it, he'll do everything and i'm happy he's here.

but he's far from the most important pick-up for us!

Hardaway is a steal. Kid is good.

JR SMITH WHO?!?!?!

Timmy is a baller!!! that slam dunk was sick!!! plus he'll drain the treys!!

(and we'll forget about the hairball in the fourth)

EnySpree wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I disagree from some reviewing Diogu. I thought Ike played poorly. He seemed to be looking for his shot every time he touched the ball and he wasn't making his shot. I didn't see all of the first half so he may have had some minutes where he looked good that I missed. He also might be a guy that needs minutes and to get into a rhythm. The fourth quarter was pretty chaotic. Powell looked better to me but I think Aldrich is the keeper of that group.

Yeah, Ike didn't look great last night -- got bottled up inside/fumbled the ball at least once, missed a mid-range J (didn't shy away from taking that shot though which I liked) -- but again to be fair, he doesn't play at all the first 3 quarters and then enters with the game in the balance halfway through the 4th quarter and is expected to make something happen. That's a tough spot. Leslie and Murry--same boat...Ike's great length was evident on the glass going for rebounds at least.. I just feel he's capable of a lot more than Powell. I wanna see him much earlier tonight and for a more sustained stretch. Let's properly evaluate the guys that are up for these last few spots. I mean what if Woody threw Ike 25-30 mins and he responded with 18 & 10. Only natural to then contemplate Ike making this team, even over the injured Tyler perhaps (I still feel Aldrich is a lock, even though he hasn't played particularly well). Afford the man the opportunity. Start him tonight and let's see what he does with 30 mins.

I agree. Woody is setting guys up to fall this way. Ike has to look for his shot Cuz it was crunch time and he needed to score, especially since Woody was dumping it down to him. It's definately weird.

I'm looking forward to scouting tonight game. If these guys don't get big run today than something is off.

callmened wrote:Here are a couple questions for preseason game #2:

- i can care less about the score. Im sure woody is playing players who wont even be on the team

-how did powell play? He used to play in atlanta with woody

-i see murry played. I know he can play defense but how did his offense look?

-why arent alrich & cdr playing?

-how is udrih playing? I see he had 5 asts but also 5 turnovers

-melo played the 3...how was is perimeter defense on rudy gay?

-lastly, are we still a 3pt shooting offense?

Thanks

Hopefully they give Aldrich 30+ minutes tonight to see what he can do. Powell and Diogu are not the answers
Knicks kind of went through the motions at times last night but you can see how good they can be. For some reason Udirih looked awful slow last night he was on the ground multiple times many TO's he may need some additional conditioning--so maybe he also needs to play 35 minutes.
Knicks played good D at times really got their hands into the passing lanes. You can see the serious potential of Shumpert and Hardaway also looks real good. Id have to believe both guys will warrant extended playing time--perhaps moving Prigioni to 2nd string PG off the bench. Artest took to many shots--he can do that at times--other than Carmello---no one should be taking 17 shots. But he played good D. Carmello is a player we cannot replace. Bargs maybe can use more extended time--maybe play Bargs and Aldrich 30+ minutes tonight give melo and chandler and Felton off