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Knicks center Tyson Chandler admits he got his butt kicked by Roy Hibbert in NBA playoffs
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10/8/2013  2:32 PM
Did not see this posted anywhere but I thought this was very big of Tyson. Hope for better things this coming season.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-chandler-admits-hibbert-kicked-butt-playoffs-article-1.1476594

Knicks center Tyson Chandler admits he got his butt kicked by Roy Hibbert in NBA playoffs
Chandler was badly outplayed by Hibbert, who posted a double-double for the series, registering 13.3 points and 10.3 boards per game as the Indiana Pacers eliminated the Knicks.

BY PETER BOTTE / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2013, 3:51 PM


HOWARD SIMMONS/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tyson Chandler gets his shot blocked by Pacers center Roy Hibbert during the NBA playoffs.

Pacers center Roy Hibbert adds framed picture of his epic block of Carmelo Anthony to his man cave
Tyson Chandler says he wasn't 100 percent healthy for Knicks playoffs but gave team everything he had

In Tyson Chandler's own words, he got his "ass kicked" at both ends of the floor by Indiana's Roy Hibbert throughout the Knicks' six-game playoff elimination last spring against the Pacers.

If that doesn't motivate an All-Star player to improve his overall game – even one that was less than 100 percent healthy at the time -- nothing will.

"Obviously, I wasn't close to myself, but I can't even look at that. I have to look at it as motivation where I got my ass kicked, and next time I'm not going to let that happen," Chandler said after practice Friday in Greenburgh. "Honestly, my motivation this summer was the playoff exit. I vowed to myself that I would never let that happen again. I would never let my team down and be in that situation again. That's what I've been thriving off of. I will never allow that to happen. That's been my motivation.

"At the end of the season, I didn't look at my teammates. I looked at myself. I said, 'OK, where did you let your team down?' And that was one of the areas I felt I let my team down. So, I went back to the drawing board, and been working on it."

Chandler, the NBA's 2012 Defensive Player of the Year and a first-time All-Star last season, missed 16 of the final 20 regular-season games last season with a bulging disc in his neck, and he then was zapped by a virus during the first round against the Celtics.

Against Indiana, the 13-year NBA veteran averaged just 6.1 points and 6.0 rebounds in 29.6 minutes per game. He was badly outplayed by Hibbert, who posted a double-double for the series, registering 13.3 points and 10.3 boards per game.

"Yeah, absolutely, and I have to make sure that doesn't happen. He had a great series, but it's not about him, it's about me," Chandler said. "My job is to stop whoever is in front of me, and outplay them, no matter who it is.



DARRON CUMMINGS/AP

Tyson Chandler has no answers for the Pacers last season, but vows to use loss as motivation.

Walking away from that series, I couldn't look at this person or that person, what they did or didn't do. It's about me, to make sure that person can't succeed against me and I'll have the success the next time."

The 7-foot-1 Chandler has spent the summer and the beginning of training camp working on a mid-range jumper to complement his ability to score inside off the pick-and-roll. He estimated he's been taking "more than" 600 shots every day before, during and after practice.

"Honestly, I don't see a big guy being able to come out and guard me around the free-throw line. Because I feel like my first step is quicker than a lot of the big guys in the league," said Chandler, who shot on a side court while the Knicks went through a team scrimmage Friday. "If they have to come out, it will give me a direct line to the basket, as well as open it up for my teammates.

"If I knock them down, at some point the defense is going to have to honor it…But I have no expectations as far as numbers."

Asked how hard it is to alter his game at this stage of his career, the 31-year-old center added: "The thing is I'm an athlete. I've excelled defensively. There's no reason I can't excel offensively. It's just a mindset.

Defensively, my mindset is I'm going to lockdown every single possession. Now it just has to translate to 'Hey, I'm going to be aggressive every single possession no matter what the game is (dictating).' It's really all a mindset. If I can be creative defensively with my athleticism, there's no reason I can't do it offensively either. It's been in my head that I have to change."

SHUMP AROUND: Mike Woodson expects Iman Shumpert (shoulder) to return to practice Saturday... Chandler and Kenyon Martin practiced but didn't participate in the scrimmage.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-chandler-admits-hibbert-kicked-butt-playoffs-article-1.1476594#ixzz2h9lJhU2z

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10/8/2013  3:09 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/8/2013  3:10 PM
Aside from throwing his teammates under the bus afterwards, what really bothered me in the playoffs was Chandler's matador D. Its one thing to leave everything on the floor and come up short. Its another to literally just stand and watch players blow right by you. Sure as hell don't want to see that again this season. If we do I hope the league runs with that idea of personalized unis and puts "Flu" on the back of Tyson's jersey.
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10/8/2013  4:00 PM
I believe this has already been covered in one of the Tyson threads: Tyson up to 253 lbs or Tyson vows to be better on offense.

Anyway, Hibbert is reportedly up from 275 lbs and is now 290 lbs so Tyson will have his hands full. However, sometimes weight gain can backfire on a player, especially for big men. Adding more weight could cause more stress on his joints and bones which could lead to injury but hopefully it doesn't go that far(never want to see anyone injured). Also, Hibbert may lose some of his quickness and he was never that quick or fast but that could affect his ability to make plays defensively.

Several other players have fallen for the bigger is better approach and after the season regretted the extra size.

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10/8/2013  4:04 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:I believe this has already been covered in one of the Tyson threads: Tyson up to 253 lbs or Tyson vows to be better on offense.

Anyway, Hibbert is reportedly up from 275 lbs and is now 290 lbs so Tyson will have his hands full. However, sometimes weight gain can backfire on a player, especially for big men. Adding more weight could cause more stress on his joints and bones which could lead to injury but hopefully it doesn't go that far(never want to see anyone injured). Also, Hibbert may lose some of his quickness and he was never that quick or fast but that could affect his ability to make plays defensively.

Several other players have fallen for the bigger is better approach and after the season regretted the extra size.

Good point. Amare actually added about 25 pounds of muscle after his first season here and it lead to more injuries. Not that I hope for injury to Hibbert.

Tyson just needs to stop getting damn colds, flus, etc. It's happened both seasons. Take some vitamin c or something.

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10/9/2013  8:47 AM
Forget Hibbert, he's gonna have his hands full with Lopez. The dude is 295 coming into the season, and he has an array of moves Hibbert can only dream of. He looked good against DC last night, pushed people away at will, hit numerous hooks and even jumpers. Tyson's gonna need help, hope they do the right thing and keep Aldrich and Tyler instead of another freaking combo guard.
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10/9/2013  9:17 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Aside from throwing his teammates under the bus afterwards, what really bothered me in the playoffs was Chandler's matador D. Its one thing to leave everything on the floor and come up short. Its another to literally just stand and watch players blow right by you. Sure as hell don't want to see that again this season. If we do I hope the league runs with that idea of personalized unis and puts "Flu" on the back of Tyson's jersey.

You ever get sick, lose 15 lbs, and try to play NBA level basketball?
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10/9/2013  9:27 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Aside from throwing his teammates under the bus afterwards, what really bothered me in the playoffs was Chandler's matador D. Its one thing to leave everything on the floor and come up short. Its another to literally just stand and watch players blow right by you. Sure as hell don't want to see that again this season. If we do I hope the league runs with that idea of personalized unis and puts "Flu" on the back of Tyson's jersey.

You ever get sick, lose 15 lbs, and try to play NBA level basketball?

Ive played ball with serious injuries, with a fever, against all types of competition. Ive played ball against kids half my age when I weighed over 300 lbs, with a bad back, and no one ever accused me of doggin it on a court, ever.

I did this without earning a cent for my efforts. Tyson can make all the excuses he wants, he was watching players drive right past him without making an effort to stop them, has done that plenty of times since winning DPOY. No more excuses.

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10/9/2013  9:29 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Aside from throwing his teammates under the bus afterwards, what really bothered me in the playoffs was Chandler's matador D. Its one thing to leave everything on the floor and come up short. Its another to literally just stand and watch players blow right by you. Sure as hell don't want to see that again this season. If we do I hope the league runs with that idea of personalized unis and puts "Flu" on the back of Tyson's jersey.

You ever get sick, lose 15 lbs, and try to play NBA level basketball?

Ive played ball with serious injuries, with a fever, against all types of competition. Ive played ball against kids half my age when I weighed over 300 lbs, with a bad back, and no one ever accused me of doggin it on a court, ever.

I did this without earning a cent for my efforts. Tyson can make all the excuses he wants, he was watching players drive right past him without making an effort to stop them, has done that plenty of times since winning DPOY. No more excuses.

wow you weighed 300 lbs? what did you do to lose weight? how are you doing now??

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10/9/2013  9:38 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Aside from throwing his teammates under the bus afterwards, what really bothered me in the playoffs was Chandler's matador D. Its one thing to leave everything on the floor and come up short. Its another to literally just stand and watch players blow right by you. Sure as hell don't want to see that again this season. If we do I hope the league runs with that idea of personalized unis and puts "Flu" on the back of Tyson's jersey.

You ever get sick, lose 15 lbs, and try to play NBA level basketball?

Ive played ball with serious injuries, with a fever, against all types of competition. Ive played ball against kids half my age when I weighed over 300 lbs, with a bad back, and no one ever accused me of doggin it on a court, ever.

I did this without earning a cent for my efforts. Tyson can make all the excuses he wants, he was watching players drive right past him without making an effort to stop them, has done that plenty of times since winning DPOY. No more excuses.

wow you weighed 300 lbs? what did you do to lose weight? how are you doing now??

I dropped it playing ball, working out, and dieting. Had achilles tendonitis, knee arthritis, as well as back problems and a torn rotator cuff all at the same time, so some of it came back. Good news is that after a year Im finally over my injuries.

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10/9/2013  9:41 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Aside from throwing his teammates under the bus afterwards, what really bothered me in the playoffs was Chandler's matador D. Its one thing to leave everything on the floor and come up short. Its another to literally just stand and watch players blow right by you. Sure as hell don't want to see that again this season. If we do I hope the league runs with that idea of personalized unis and puts "Flu" on the back of Tyson's jersey.

You ever get sick, lose 15 lbs, and try to play NBA level basketball?

Ive played ball with serious injuries, with a fever, against all types of competition. Ive played ball against kids half my age when I weighed over 300 lbs, with a bad back, and no one ever accused me of doggin it on a court, ever.

I did this without earning a cent for my efforts. Tyson can make all the excuses he wants, he was watching players drive right past him without making an effort to stop them, has done that plenty of times since winning DPOY. No more excuses.

wow you weighed 300 lbs? what did you do to lose weight? how are you doing now??

I dropped it playing ball, working out, and dieting. Had achilles tendonitis, knee arthritis, as well as back problems and a torn rotator cuff all at the same time, so some of it came back. Good news is that after a year Im finally over my injuries.

i'm pulling for you

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10/9/2013  9:44 AM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Aside from throwing his teammates under the bus afterwards, what really bothered me in the playoffs was Chandler's matador D. Its one thing to leave everything on the floor and come up short. Its another to literally just stand and watch players blow right by you. Sure as hell don't want to see that again this season. If we do I hope the league runs with that idea of personalized unis and puts "Flu" on the back of Tyson's jersey.

You ever get sick, lose 15 lbs, and try to play NBA level basketball?

Ive played ball with serious injuries, with a fever, against all types of competition. Ive played ball against kids half my age when I weighed over 300 lbs, with a bad back, and no one ever accused me of doggin it on a court, ever.

I did this without earning a cent for my efforts. Tyson can make all the excuses he wants, he was watching players drive right past him without making an effort to stop them, has done that plenty of times since winning DPOY. No more excuses.

wow you weighed 300 lbs? what did you do to lose weight? how are you doing now??

I dropped it playing ball, working out, and dieting. Had achilles tendonitis, knee arthritis, as well as back problems and a torn rotator cuff all at the same time, so some of it came back. Good news is that after a year Im finally over my injuries.

i'm pulling for you

Thanks IronWill. Sucks getting old when it comes to injuries but at least I can still play. I know blkexec can relate with his injuries. Hard to give up playing ball.

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10/9/2013  10:28 AM
Yea Tyson was letting guys get to the basket and not hustling back on D well before the playoffs began. It was a big reason why our defense slipped and we became a .500 team for a stretch of 4months. Of course there was the PGs and Melos inability to stay in front of their men. Interior defense only improved when Kmart joined. Shame he wasn't 100% in the playoffs but at least he tried unlike Tyson
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10/9/2013  10:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/9/2013  10:33 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Yea Tyson was letting guys get to the basket and not hustling back on D well before the playoffs began. It was a big reason why our defense slipped and we became a .500 team for a stretch of 4months. Of course there was the PGs and Melos inability to stay in front of their men. Interior defense only improved when Kmart joined. Shame he wasn't 100% in the playoffs but at least he tried unlike Tyson

His flu and neck injuries started well before the playoffs though
He's clearly a guy who cares but he's prone to health and injury problems
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10/9/2013  10:48 AM
No I'm taking about mid season from Dec 17th to April 1st. We were a .500 ball club and one of the worst defensive teams in the league. We finished strong like we started but were eventually exposed in the playoffs. Lack of size and an unimaginative offense that consisted of getting the ball to Melo and JR while others stood around. Playing right into indy's hands. We went away from what worked and were embarrassed in 6 games
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10/9/2013  11:16 AM
gunsnewing wrote:No I'm taking about mid season from Dec 17th to April 1st. We were a .500 ball club and one of the worst defensive teams in the league. We finished strong like we started but were eventually exposed in the playoffs. Lack of size and an unimaginative offense that consisted of getting the ball to Melo and JR while others stood around. Playing right into indy's hands. We went away from what worked and were embarrassed in 6 games

I don't think we went away from what worked in the playoffs and I don't know if you can call being eliminated in 6 games an embarrassment. The guy that was exposed in the Indy series was Tyson. They way he played in that series is the way he played the majority of the season. If he was injured, good for him for trying to fight through it. But he was the reason we lost and he all but admitted it.

Woodson was also exposed against Indy a bit. I like him and think he's a good coach, but he's not an elite level guy. Not playing Copeland, going away for Prigioni in game 4, etc. Those things really hurt us. So I guess that one game against Indy we did go away from what worked. But not throughout the playoffs. Playoff basketball is just different.

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10/9/2013  11:24 AM
The defense albeit was not great but they did enough defensively to win hold Indy to 80pts. As bad as Tyson was he faired better vs Hibbert than bosh did. The series was lost on the offense end. Split the blame between Woodson, Melo and jr and not having a pg to orchestrate the offense and get Melo and jr the ball in the right spots and the right time. Not with 16secs left on the clock and clear out as they dribble down to 4secs and hoist a deep perimeter shot. Which played right into indy's hands
Knicks center Tyson Chandler admits he got his butt kicked by Roy Hibbert in NBA playoffs

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