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Nalod
Posts: 68922 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/27/2013 11:19 AM LAST EDITED: 9/27/2013 11:22 AM
Lets look at the title of this thread:
"Been hearing stories from guys in the military". Reality is you "Read stories from guys in the military", so its not like you know these guys. You say its first hand knowledge, I say its a youtube video that anyone can post. Since your underbelief MSM is corrupt then in a vacuum you believe the alternative media who really falls short on being objective or backing up many of its claims. That women was looking for her kid in he pentegon? They run day care on her floor? Look, she might be a complete attention seeking nut job who is trying to get attention or got canned for underperformance and has a bone to pick with her former employer (US gov't), I don't know, but lets get one thing really clear and that Watergate was bought to you by MSM as have lots of coruption over the years. I do believe our Gov't has done some really bad things but the proof and conclusions you and other "theorists" use are higly subjective. Your entitled to your opinion, and given I do explain mine with some effort and thought are entitled to call bullshyt your evidence. Im not laying judgement mind you, just that your evidence is not credible, not substantial, lacking sources cited, or void of editorial slant. The intense conspiracy music, large "NWO" as reasons, and special effects might work on a vulnerable viewer, but as a fairly educated man it don't work on me. Why would the Gov't make tornados? Becasue they can make snow over ski resorts? This guy is precious: |
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
9/27/2013 11:29 AM
playa2 wrote:playa2 wrote:I meant to say Dick Cheney. Funny thing is nothing was made of this in the mainstream media AND YOU THINK i WILL WAIT TO HEAR INFO FROM THEM LIKE YOU AND IRON MAN ? So you are going to deny what transportation guy reported on c-span huh ?
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Nalod
Posts: 68922 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/28/2013 7:38 AM
Whats the point? You saying the plane that went into the pentegon was allowed to to crash into it?
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
9/28/2013 10:16 PM
Nalod wrote:Whats the point? You saying the plane that went into the pentegon was allowed to to crash into it? Why do you use the term "I'm saying" ? Am I the transportation of defense ? It was well known what was going to happen and allowed. Why would you allow that when other building were already attacked and you hold a position to defend America ????
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Nalod
Posts: 68922 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/29/2013 1:29 AM
I thought most claim there was no plane?
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
9/29/2013 11:43 AM
Cheny's position was to defend America, it didn't matter what the impending danger was. You back peddling you're a fraud.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Nalod
Posts: 68922 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/29/2013 5:23 PM
playa2 wrote:Cheny's position was to defend America, it didn't matter what the impending danger was. You back peddling you're a fraud. We resort to name calling? 1. There was or was not a plane? I was under the impression a missile Drone thingy went into pentegon, now your telling me it was a plane. Just clarify, the devil is in the details. |
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
9/29/2013 8:05 PM LAST EDITED: 9/30/2013 12:14 PM
playa2 wrote:playa2 wrote:playa2 wrote:I meant to say Dick Cheney. Funny thing is nothing was made of this in the mainstream media AND YOU THINK i WILL WAIT TO HEAR INFO FROM THEM LIKE YOU AND IRON MAN ? Why would you tell our defense forces to stand down when we were already attacked in NY ? WE COULD GO TO WAR AND STEAL RESOURCES AND BY KILLING off 3000 AMERICANS,
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Nalod
Posts: 68922 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/30/2013 7:19 AM
Playa, Im sorry if you went and served our country in a volunteer army and felt betrayed. There are many reasons we have kept a presence in the middle east but the economics are also about balance of power and keeping the flow of energy to going as not to disrupt a world economy that 20 years ago was moving away from a bi-polar system (Soviet block vs. Nato socialism/capitalism). The roots of all this are thousands of years old but go back 100 years and you can find many answers. Greed is a part of it, but so is presence of trading partners to keep the middle class intact as the engine that drives things. You seem to have a romantic fantasy that you possess special knowledge. Please accept that in the age of free knowledge over the internet there is a lot of misinformation. Fear mongering is very profitable and the greed behind it is not unlike some of the very things you are against. |
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
9/30/2013 12:21 PM
War is profitable , certain families have created fortunes from it.
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/bush_nazis.html Prescott Bush knew perfectly well that Brown Brothers was the American money channel into Nazi Germany, and that Union Bank was the secret pipeline to bring the Nazi money back to America from Holland. The Bushes had to have known how the secret money circuit worked because they were on the board of directors in both directions: Brown Brothers out, Union Bank in. Moreover, the size of their compensation is commensurate with their risk as Nazi money launderers. In 1951, Prescott Bush and his father in law each received one share of Union Bank stock, worth $750,000 each. One and a half million dollars was a lot of money in 1951. But then, from the Thyssen point of view, buying the Bushes was the best bargain of the war. The bottom line is harsh: It is bad enough that the Bush family helped raise the money for Thyssen to give Hitler his start in the 1920's, but giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war is treason. The Bush's bank helped the Thyssens make the Nazi steel that killed allied soldiers. As bad as financing the Nazi war machine may seem, aiding and abetting the Holocaust was worse. Thyssen's coal mines used Jewish slaves as if they were disposable chemicals. There are six million skeletons in the Thyssen family closet, and a myriad of criminal and historical questions to be answered about the Bush family's complicity.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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Nalod
Posts: 68922 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/30/2013 2:04 PM
pretty fair overview of the issue. Good read. Not conclusive.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar |
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 33831 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
9/30/2013 8:45 PM LAST EDITED: 9/30/2013 8:55 PM
I worked in warzones and with people that were in warzones with substantially more conflict than where I was at. You can profit like a mofo contracting overseas. The sovereign people usually don't have a friggin clue and they pay for management services, infrastructure, etc. and fund it with oil money. Some of the sovereign delegates were crafty like a fox though and I respected them for ripping the US companies off the way the US companies ripped everyone else off
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Lol Rick needs a safe space
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Nalod
Posts: 68922 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/1/2013 5:20 PM
playa2 wrote:Something maybe going down soon, possibly Monday. http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200501/conspiracy-theories-explained |