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diderotn
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4/20/2004  10:26 AM
If our boys play the game with the anger that they have been expressing, we may just discover the Knick of old tonight. I am ready to see if they can talk the talk and walk it also. We don't need any more injuries right now, we have enough already. I am hoping that TT will be back better than ever for game 3.
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Andrew
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4/20/2004  10:37 AM
I'd like to think that the fire and desire can turn itself into a win, but being a little bit realistic I don't like our chances. Reason being...the Knicks were suppose to have a chance to beat the Nets if Kidd and Martin were both injured and not 100%. Well....turns out both of them are pretty much rested and ready to go...strike one. Houston is out....strick two. Tim Thomas is out....strike three.

The increased toughness can help on the defensive end, but its not going to help us put the ball in the hoop. I just can't see the Knicks keeping up the Nets scoring wise no matter how good our D is. Someone has to have a monster game to keep us in contention. I'll still be rooting for a win though.
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diderotn
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4/20/2004  10:58 AM
Strangely enough, I do believe that we have a chance. For us to win tongight there two things that must happen. Marb has to score more than 25 point and dish out at least 10 assists; second, our Defense has to be brutal in every sense of the word. We need to force the Nets into a jump shooting team. If they come inside for an easy bucket, knock them upside their heads. The Knicks have to remember that the Nets have something that they need. We need to pick two guys and designate them as our bad boys, just like Isia did with Artest and Harrington.
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nykdunk
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4/20/2004  2:32 PM
to me, just the Knicks pulverizing any Net that tries to go to the basket would be a major victory in it's own right.
simrud
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4/20/2004  3:01 PM
I just want to see a Net carried out of the arena on strechers bleeding from his head. Don't care who wins.
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Caseloads
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4/20/2004  3:14 PM
pulverizing and bleeding? that's not sports... that's violence.

not cool.

tough defense and hard fouls are great, but to be malicious and hurt someone is awful.
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4/20/2004  3:21 PM
Anger doesn't win games. It's what losers resort to when they haven't the talent or experience to win. The only way the Knicks win a single game in this series is if the Nets have an off night. The Knicks don't have the ability to beat these guys, not with their injuries and weak roster. Even at full strength, the Knicks are not a very good team. But, Dolan gets his wish, and he'll sell some expensive playoff tickets to NY'ers who should know better.

- Nazr is a better center than Doleac, but he's not as good as Collins. Nets keep trying to replace Collins year after year, but he's always the one starting come playoff time. Maybe they should just give him the job already. Anyway, Nazr's fair, nothing special.
- KT is like a skinny Malik Rose. Solid bench player, but nothing special.
- TT is decent, but doesn't control games. And now he's hurt. Doesn't seem to gel with teammates, which is why he is traded a lot.
- Allan Houston. The fact that people are missing him shows how low this team has fallen. Houston is a *****-cat. Great jump shooter, but has only taken over a handful of meaningful games in his career. A guy who makes his salary should be trying to take over EVERY game, and succeeding at it. Can't play defense, either.
- Marbury. Talented, great one-on-one player, but, alas, basketball is only a one-on-one game on the blacktop. Great PG's are floor generals and should only be shooting off rebounds or when the clock winds down. Like Steve Francis, a SG pretending to be a PG, Marbury needs to learn how to run the team - that's what Wilkens and Isiah expect from him. Whenever teams trade Marbury, they aren't all that sorry to see him go. That should tell you something.

Knicks' bench - aside from Sweetney, who is to like? Deke's ancient and slow, Penny and Vinnie will never again be the players they once were, Shandon should pay back some of his salary to the fans, Frank's a cry-baby head case, and Dermarr and Moochie are third-stringers. I won't even bring the other guy into this. He doesn't play, so he doesn't get his name mentioned.

This team is better than last year's ... by two games. I'm glad Dolan got his wish so he could see his playoff team humiliated on national TV. I wonder if we could fly Sprewell over just to taunt Dolan some more after the Knicks are put out of their misery.

Well, I think that's it for me. Until next year. Andrew, martin - you guys are great, run a clean site - me likes. I spend too much time reading this stuff, not enough time plotting to overthrow the government or kill off my momma, and that's important stuff to me, as many of you know. Good luck to Isiah this summer, he's going to need it.

And like that he's gone ....

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4/20/2004  4:13 PM
Posted by DefAndReb:

Well, I think that's it for me. Until next year. Andrew, martin - you guys are great, run a clean site - me likes. I spend too much time reading this stuff, not enough time plotting to overthrow the government or kill off my momma, and that's important stuff to me, as many of you know. Good luck to Isiah this summer, he's going to need it.

And like that he's gone ....

fair enough DefAndReb, good to have you around, great summer and see you next year.
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4/20/2004  4:44 PM
"Anger doesn't win games. It's what losers resort to when they haven't the talent or experience to win. "

So true.. I think all this talk of retaliation is total bush. A real message is going out and out playing them. If we only win one game make it this one tonight.

Def... dont go. I know we banged heads once but every man's voice should be heard. Anyway if you do be good and easy on momma.
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DefAndReb
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4/21/2004  1:05 PM
Okay, just one more post, then, really, I have actual work to do. It's not just this message board, I spend way too much time on other ones as well.
Posted by fishmike:

"Anger doesn't win games. It's what losers resort to when they haven't the talent or experience to win. "

So true.. I think all this talk of retaliation is total bush. A real message is going out and out playing them. If we only win one game make it this one tonight.

Def... dont go. I know we banged heads once but every man's voice should be heard. Anyway if you do be good and easy on momma.

No hard feelings, fishy, I'm just playin' about the politics/momma-dyin' stuff. I know I sounded mean about Frank, so I decided to just go with it, make it entertaining for others. But, really, it's not about you guys. I love everybody. I just have to do some work, and stop wasting time, especially when the Knicks aren't going to be a good team until more personnel moves are made.

So, once again, and really once and for all, or at least until some major trades go down in the summer, enjoy the playoffs. If we end up with Stomile on the team, I blame Briggs. Later, guys.
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4/21/2004  1:28 PM
" If we end up with Stomile on the team, I blame Briggs. Later, guys."

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