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8/11/2013  8:17 PM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/11/hamed-haddadi-named-fiba-asia-mvp/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
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8/11/2013  9:26 PM
Iran won the championship 3 years in a row. That shows the level of talent over there.
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8/11/2013  9:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/11/2013  9:45 PM
Briggs, the big critique on him is that he is too slow in transition.
How much of a liability would that actualy be in the typically half court style of game played in the playoffs?
How would Haddadi have faired against teams like the Pacers or Bulls playing 8-15 minutes a game in the playoffs?
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8/12/2013  7:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/12/2013  7:38 AM
This is the 3rd time that he gets the honors. Hamed is by far the best center available right now to finish off the roster. That Lithuanian guy is a toothpick and has 0 NBA experience. Most likely his skills will not translate. Haddadi has NBA career averages of 15 boards and 14 points per 48 minutes, and last year those numbers go up to 18 boards and 16 points per 48 mins and that's given that last year his playing time was double his career average PT. So one can make an argument that with increased minutes will translate to proportionally increased production in his case.
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8/12/2013  9:44 AM
Not familiar with him or his situation. How tall and strong is he? And is he available for the minimum?
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8/12/2013  9:48 AM
colorfl1 wrote:
the big critique on him is that he is too slow in transition
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I am curious about this as well. I wasn't aware of him until he was mentioned as a guy the Knicks were interested in. After watching video of him he seems good and I didn't notice his speed impacting his play on the videos I watched. The guy that I keep hearing say he can't run the court is Zwerling.
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8/12/2013  11:40 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
colorfl1 wrote:the big critique on him is that he is too slow in transition
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I am curious about this as well. I wasn't aware of him until he was mentioned as a guy the Knicks were interested in. After watching video of him he seems good and I didn't notice his speed impacting his play on the videos I watched. The guy that I keep hearing say he can't run the court is Zwerling.

Even if he fails in transition, wouldn't he still be valuable to feature against bruising teams that play a half-court game?
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8/12/2013  12:02 PM
colorfl1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
colorfl1 wrote:the big critique on him is that he is too slow in transition
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I am curious about this as well. I wasn't aware of him until he was mentioned as a guy the Knicks were interested in. After watching video of him he seems good and I didn't notice his speed impacting his play on the videos I watched. The guy that I keep hearing say he can't run the court is Zwerling.

Even if he fails in transition, wouldn't he still be valuable to feature against bruising teams that play a half-court game?

I think so. He looks great in limited minutes and appears to be a great rim protector.

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8/12/2013  12:10 PM
colorfl1 wrote:Briggs, the big critique on him is that he is too slow in transition.
How much of a liability would that actualy be in the typically half court style of game played in the playoffs?
How would Haddadi have faired against teams like the Pacers or Bulls playing 8-15 minutes a game in the playoffs?

I remember Haddadi playing very solid ball in the playoffs 2 years ago for the Grizzlies.

I think the guy is pretty solid --- his slow gate, body type reminds me very much of Bogut. He is long and uses both hands around the rim -- I kind of like Haddadi.
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8/12/2013  12:51 PM
Hmm, im not sure- i think I'd rather sign a more talented PF than a scrub C at this point- play Bargs at backup C with a rebounding, defensive PF next to him.
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8/12/2013  2:57 PM
Hibbert shouldnt change our equation. Hammaddi isnt playing important or heavy minutes in place of a far superior Chandler. If you want more size and bulk than consider using Chandler in a three way to land a decent big like Asik or simply get a more useful pf that fits our roster and style of play. I like Shavlik Randolph , liked Ivan Johnson before we resigned Kmart.
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8/12/2013  3:06 PM
meloanyk wrote:Hibbert shouldnt change our equation. Hammaddi isnt playing important or heavy minutes in place of a far superior Chandler. If you want more size and bulk than consider using Chandler in a three way to land a decent big like Asik or simply get a more useful pf that fits our roster and style of play. I like Shavlik Randolph , liked Ivan Johnson before we resigned Kmart.

The Knicks do need another big. It has been quite awhile since Tyson has played more then 65 games. I also think Kmart will break down if he is required big minutes. The 15th spot is important for the Knicks.

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8/12/2013  3:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/12/2013  3:23 PM
The Knicks originally built their roster to try to get past the Heat by trying to stretch the floor for the 3 ball.

Well, now it is clear that this team has bigger challenges getting past big teams that play big and bang like Indiana and Chicago.

The Knicks should benefit by having a big man that can secure defensive rebounds, block shots and box out opposing players from getting 2nd chances; even if that means 8-10 minutes.

It usually during those 8-10 minutes in the late 3rd quarter-early forth quarter that this team plays like a tired team with no hops.
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8/12/2013  3:23 PM
colorfl1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
colorfl1 wrote:the big critique on him is that he is too slow in transition
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I am curious about this as well. I wasn't aware of him until he was mentioned as a guy the Knicks were interested in. After watching video of him he seems good and I didn't notice his speed impacting his play on the videos I watched. The guy that I keep hearing say he can't run the court is Zwerling.

Even if he fails in transition, wouldn't he still be valuable to feature against bruising teams that play a half-court game?


The games I saw him play at last year was against the rockets. He did really well. He really disrupted harden, Lin and parsons. In transition h did wel but then again this is against Asik who is not a burner. In transition he really only needs to keep pace with the opposing center. Unless he s going up against Bosh when the Heat go small then he should be ok. He should definitely keep pace with Hibbert.
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8/12/2013  3:40 PM
Alan Hahn pointed out that we actually need a SF- especially if Melo is playing PF. Wish we hadn't lost out on Shawne Williams- could play SF and PF.
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8/12/2013  5:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/12/2013  5:03 PM
smackeddog wrote:Alan Hahn pointed out that we actually need a SF- especially if Melo is playing PF. Wish we hadn't lost out on Shawne Williams- could play SF and PF.


It is a forgone conclusion that Bargs and Stat will command minutes at PF.
Expect Mello to be featured at SF more this year.
Last I checked; JR, Martin, Meta, Shumpert, Lesley can all be featured at SF.

The Knicks do not need another SF for the 15th roster spot.
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8/12/2013  5:59 PM
Hibbert had problems running early in his career as well. Maybe we can just hire the trainer that Hibbert used to teach Haddadi how to lift his knees when he runs. Like NYKBocker has said, we just need him to give us minutes against the Hibberts and the Noahs of the NBA to box out and play manly 1-to-1 D on them, not to outrun a team like the Heat.
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8/12/2013  6:09 PM
colorfl1 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Alan Hahn pointed out that we actually need a SF- especially if Melo is playing PF. Wish we hadn't lost out on Shawne Williams- could play SF and PF.


It is a forgone conclusion that Bargs and Stat will command minutes at PF.
Expect Mello to be featured at SF more this year.
Last I checked; JR, Martin, Meta, Shumpert, Lesley can all be featured at SF.

The Knicks do not need another SF for the 15th roster spot.

Maybe the coaching staff talked to Melo about playing small forward. He looked thin/smaller then usual at his softball game. I wonder if he is losing weight to be faster. He did say he was in better shape then last summer.
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8/12/2013  6:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/12/2013  6:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
colorfl1 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Alan Hahn pointed out that we actually need a SF- especially if Melo is playing PF. Wish we hadn't lost out on Shawne Williams- could play SF and PF.


It is a forgone conclusion that Bargs and Stat will command minutes at PF.
Expect Mello to be featured at SF more this year.
Last I checked; JR, Martin, Meta, Shumpert, Lesley can all be featured at SF.

The Knicks do not need another SF for the 15th roster spot.

Maybe the coaching staff talked to Melo about playing small forward. He looked thin/smaller then usual at his softball game. I wonder if he is losing weight to be faster. He did say he was in better shape then last summer.

You may be on to something CrushAlot, although Mello looks bigger on the court than he really is because he sports protective padding under his jersey when playing B-Ball.

This is the first time in it seems like forever that this team has kept its core intact, I am really eager to see what they can do when playing healthy and with steady rotations.

I would be really happy if they picked up Haddadi, he is a really tenacious player with a knack for rebounds and shot blocking.

He is 7'2" feet tall and weighs 265 lbs., He has done youth camps for kids in California together with Meta.
He also plays with passion.
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8/12/2013  6:50 PM
He'd be a good 15 th man
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