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colorfl1
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7/24/2013  8:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/24/2013  8:44 PM
With Kmart, Shumpert and Metta on the Knicks for training camp, Woodson will have a lot of time to experiment with speciality lineups. The Knicks have a lot of versatility, with players capable of being featured at multiple positions.

Shumpert- sf, sg, pg
Metta- pf, sf, (sg)
KMart- Pf, c, sf
JR- Sf, sg
Mello- Pf, Sf
Amare- Pf, C
Bargnani- Pf, C (Sf)

Offensively, Bargnani should prove proficient at drawing defensive bigs out of the lane


But, versatility should prove especially helpful on the defensive end.

I would love to see the coach implement a shut-down defensive unit.

A lineup of:

Chandler, (c)
Kmart, (pf)
Metta, (sf)
JR, (sg)
Shumpert (pg)

Would cause all kinds of defensive havoc.
It would be thrilling to see hard-nosed New York '90s style defence getting 15 minutes of burn in 4th quarters.

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7/25/2013  8:22 AM
Provided we get the DPOY Tyson, and not Hibbert's girlfren

colorfl1 wrote:I would love to see the coach implement a shut-down defensive unit.

A lineup of:

Chandler, (c)
Kmart, (pf)
Metta, (sf)
JR, (sg)
Shumpert (pg)

Would cause all kinds of defensive havoc.
It would be thrilling to see hard-nosed New York '90s style defence getting 15 minutes of burn in 4th quarters.

+1 Break out the DFense signs fellas. Full court press for 8 minute stints in the second half? Please, bring me your pathetic 3rd quarter comebacks. Like Clyde once wrote, "We just 10 people off the court"

2 greyhound shooter/finishers, two ogres cleaning up around the rim, and one wildcard nastyman hitting the occassional kickout three.

I like this.

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7/25/2013  10:24 AM
jrodmc wrote:Provided we get the DPOY Tyson, and not Hibbert's girlfren

classic.

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7/25/2013  2:12 PM
Woody is gonna have all kinds of options on defense. I think this is a very versatile roster so far. It's only going to get better when we fill out those final 3 spots. This team can go all offense or all defense or mix it up very easily.
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7/25/2013  4:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/25/2013  4:43 PM
Woodson will never go all offense. It's the reason James flight white was starting late in the year and even in the playoffs!!

He refused to play Copeland and Amare/ Melo together when we desperately needed offense. Starting lineup will be worse this year because he will overplay Artest

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7/25/2013  5:06 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Woodson will never go all offense. It's the reason James flight white was starting late in the year and even in the playoffs!!

He refused to play Copeland and Amare/ Melo together when we desperately needed offense. Starting lineup will be worse this year because he will overplay Artest

can't be worse than kidd/Brewer.Metta may have lose a step but he will rarely be guarded by wings. I think this may open things for him. He can actually attack the rim or dust off his passing ability.

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7/25/2013  7:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/25/2013  7:12 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Woodson will never go all offense. It's the reason James flight white was starting late in the year and even in the playoffs!!

He refused to play Copeland and Amare/ Melo together when we desperately needed offense. Starting lineup will be worse this year because he will overplay Artest


I think he will overplay him as well
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7/25/2013  7:52 PM
Yea just look at kidd and how his play regressed
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7/25/2013  8:03 PM
Panos wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Provided we get the DPOY Tyson, and not Hibbert's girlfren

classic.

haha,

too bad there is no way you get anything out of tyson on those legs,

how he won dpoy is beyond my brain,

tyson is the biggest fugazi in nba history

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7/25/2013  8:37 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Woodson will never go all offense. It's the reason James flight white was starting late in the year and even in the playoffs!!

He refused to play Copeland and Amare/ Melo together when we desperately needed offense. Starting lineup will be worse this year because he will overplay Artest


I think he will overplay him as well
Insert (vet that plays the right ways name) and most coaches will overplay them.
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7/27/2013  1:15 PM
For Defensive purposes would like


Small Forwards SF/PF
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James Johnson

Hakeem Warrick

Both James Johnson and Warrick has shown they can be solid defenders with length, if they Warrick put in work from getting cut to now by adding weight in the gym and working on his weakness's, he could be a nice player to have off the bench to contribute vs some of the talented SF's with athleticism and all around skills

However, James Johnson has shown that he does put in the work in the gym by adding to this weight of about 250pds now, to go with his length/wingspan and decent athleticism
I think James Johnson could be a complete steal that is still young and has upside/potential, especially if Hopla is able to work his 3pt shot, he could player a bigger/more talented Ronnie Brewer's role with MWP/Ron Artest's guidance on DEF
With skilled players with size/guard skills Lebron, Paul George, and Durant, a lesser extent of Iggy, Rudy Gay/ DeRoZon, Tobias Harris, Chandler Parsons, Battum, Wilson Chandler/Gallo it would make sense to add a player of James Johnson's ability over the development of CJ Leslie that would likely take 2 years before his body fills out and he can contribute as a role player of the bench


Malcom Thomas *has averaged a double double with PT's, many rebounds, and a couple of steals/blocks in last season summer league, this year's summer league too, and playing in Europe as well, he just hasn't got the opportunity to stick around in the league*


Shawnee Williams/Stephen Jackson *Veterans, that are between SF/PF with the ability to hit the 3pt shot*

Centers PF/C
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Jared Jeffries don't know if he can return to the JJ's prior to his knee injury during "Linsanity", but if he could it would be a good pick up and likely would not give him a guaranteed contract to make sure, since I don't think many teams are actually interested in his services and his lack of PT in Portland last year didn't help

Jeremy Tyler *is a development player that likely wouldn't be able to contribute early this year, he would have to work very hard both on and off the court, something he hasn't showed the consistency to do to go with his "potential"

Hidaddyi/Jerome Jordan *DEFENSE*, Hidaddyi is more of a shot blocker/help defender while Jerome Jordan looks like he is strong/big enough to contribute as a 3rd string legit Center that will put a body on his man and give effort on rebounds/shot blocking/ and some post moves

Cole Alrich *more of big body that has the ability to score as a big man, with some potential in him, no one really know's if he could be a decent defender/scorer or not, because of his lack of PT in the NBA, but he does have the NBA body and show some sort of skill set on offense*


CJ Leslie/Jeremy Tyler and development players
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feel we could really only choose between one player from CJ Leslie or Tyler, as both would unlikely see any minutes this year, are more of development projects that are cost efficient, and would require 2 year team options, but CJ Leslie would likely take at least 1 to 2 years to fill out his body and put in a lot of work needed to be a raw NBA rotation player*

maybe we get a better look in training camp but I wouldn't put Murry in the same category, even though he hasn't played in the NBA yet, he shows signs that he could contribute right away with his DEFENSE and handle


It would have made much more sense to keep the rest of the 1.7 MLE to use on one or maybe even 2 players that would give us the ability to have team options on 3rd year during the FA 2015 class locked in to cheap deals and development as cost efficient and low risk/high reward options that could become assets/players locked into contracts to be part of our future rotations

Defensive unit options

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