Nyets don't have a robin who is capable of putting up those kind of numbers

It is possible with motivation and offseason training

gunsnewing wrote:I expect his percentages to go up playing with Melo especially 3pt% since plays are built into the offense to get open looks from lockouts. Same way Melo went from being a bad 3pt shooter in Denver to a good one in NY. The key as always will come down to the PG position

Bargs will stretch the floor for both Melo and Amare to operate

I see him being heavily involve in the double high Pnr. Over the last 4 yrs he has shot 36% or higher off the PnR. He also is a good cutter like Amar'e is. It is interesting where the players shoot well from 3. Shump shoot over 43% from the corners, Melo shoots around.near 40% from both high wing areas, and Bargs is good from the top of the arch. There is potential for great spacing if things click.

16 points on 45% shooting and 35% from three is a more likely expectation.

gunsnewing wrote:Yea that's what I'm getting at. The system inflates their 3pt% Shumpert is not a great shooter yet but since halfway through his rookie season he has shot 43%. Then there is Shawne Williams, copeland etc. A guy like Bargnani who is actually 7ft tall and an actual 3pt shooter should be lights out. He doesn't even need to be set up like Novak. At 7ft he can just stand there and shoot over anyone especially since most of the time he will be shooting over a wing. Other times teams will send out a big that would rather stay inside or it will force teams to abort their gameplay and rotate.

This thing really has potential if only the Knicks would upgrade at pg to steer the ship. Maybe we can execute a 3 team deal where Tyson goes for rondo and we don't give up Shumpert. I suggested this months ago. It is the only way to legitmately improve and become contenders

I think they will be ok with Felton also, I am not sure Rondo is the right guy. I would go after a lesser pg like Teague but they don't have any assets to do any trade now. Also, I think Tyson if he is back to semi-normal he might be perfect for Bargs. Bargs is the one on one post defender the teams needs and Tyson is the help defender the team needs. I wish Tyson was a better rim protector but it is what it is. There was a article that said Bargs defended the better post player 8 out of 10 times when Bosh was in Toronto and all his synergy stats that records isolation and post defense suggest he has been a good defender in those areas and I wonder if Bargs will take the better post player here.

yellowboy90 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Yea that's what I'm getting at. The system inflates their 3pt% Shumpert is not a great shooter yet but since halfway through his rookie season he has shot 43%. Then there is Shawne Williams, copeland etc. A guy like Bargnani who is actually 7ft tall and an actual 3pt shooter should be lights out. He doesn't even need to be set up like Novak. At 7ft he can just stand there and shoot over anyone especially since most of the time he will be shooting over a wing. Other times teams will send out a big that would rather stay inside or it will force teams to abort their gameplay and rotate.

This thing really has potential if only the Knicks would upgrade at pg to steer the ship. Maybe we can execute a 3 team deal where Tyson goes for rondo and we don't give up Shumpert. I suggested this months ago. It is the only way to legitmately improve and become contenders

I think they will be ok with Felton also, I am not sure Rondo is the right guy. I would go after a lesser pg like Teague but they don't have any assets to do any trade now. Also, I think Tyson if he is back to semi-normal he might be perfect for Bargs. Bargs is the one on one post defender the teams needs and Tyson is the help defender the team needs. I wish Tyson was a better rim protector but it is what it is. There was a article that said Bargs defended the better post player 8 out of 10 times when Bosh was in Toronto and all his synergy stats that records isolation and post defense suggest he has been a good defender in those areas and I wonder if Bargs will take the better post player here.

Yea I'm not as down on Tyson now that we have Bargnani and a healthy Amare. He can just focus on defense and rebounding. Playing both Tyson and Kmart killed us in the playoffs because neither could get us easy baskets. Which ultimately led to Melo one on 5

But I would still trade Tyson for Rondo and hope that one of the young bigs step up like Mozgov did. You can get by with a young athletic 7ft center

gunsnewing wrote:My biggest gripe last yr was not having a legitimate second option who can score inside. I did not like starting games in a 15pt hole as we watched Melo go one on 5. It is why I was hoping Amare would start alongside of him at 25mins a game. Now with Bargnani here and JR in the right role we can use Amare's offense for 20-25mins off the bench

Yeah, if healthy I see Amar'e coming in at the 4-3 min mark of the 1st and continue playing until the 7-6 min mark of the second. Then do the same in the second half. I think woody has to tell them to be aggressive as you want to be but be smart. If his limit restriction is 20-25 minutes than he really doesn't have to worry about fouling out.

this is going to be a very telling season for woodson. can he actually create an offensive set where jr smith + melo + bargs can get their attempts. (not to mention amare)

if there is no structure, bargs will step back and become one of the guys.

Wouldn't hurt to go with Stat to Houston and train with Hakeem as well. If Bargs can grab a couple more boards a game, not impossible, that would be a big plus. Maybe the Knicks will put more emphasis on that aspect of his game than the Raps did.