BRIGGS wrote:Andrea Bargnani 41-7-6 2 years ago. Dont poo poo this trade. Before he was hurt he was playing at an all star level and hes 27 years old. We gave up absolute crp for him.

Gotta see who the picks turn into before we say we gave up crap.

But I think Wallace showed us that having a big man that can shoot fits this Melo system.

BRIGGS wrote:Andrea Bargnani 41-7-6 2 years ago. Dont poo poo this trade. Before he was hurt he was playing at an all star level and hes 27 years old. We gave up absolute crp for him.

Didn't we make this trade already for McGrady? Wasn't he "an all star from 2 years earlier" when we gave up a boatload of assets for him as a half a season rental? This trade is incredibly shortsighted and robs us of the only real tool we have left to meaningfully improve this roster.

EnySpree wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Andrea Bargnani 41-7-6 2 years ago. Dont poo poo this trade. Before he was hurt he was playing at an all star level and hes 27 years old. We gave up absolute crp for him.

Didn't we make this trade already for McGrady? Wasn't he "an all star from 2 years earlier" when we gave up a boatload of assets for him as a half a season rental? This trade is incredibly shortsighted and robs us of the only real tool we have left to meaningfully improve this roster.

a high school junior? That 2013 draft pick is doing summer youth right now and playing AAU basketball on the weekend....

the knicks are trying to be the Spurs right now....left field moves and trying to build a contender now. We are a 54 win team. The object is to build on that not wait for this high school kid to play 2 years collage to sit on the bench for 2 seasons....

The Spurs method for building a team is through the draft. You devaluing the importance of those picks is counter to the culture that the Spurs have established. The fact is that Bargnani is a lateral move at best, which defeats the purpose of giving up the picks, except to get rid of Novak's contract for 2015. If that was the objective, it was a pretty dumb move because $4 million for the hope of signing a free agent, when you have at least $50 million to play with, is stupid.

BRIGGS wrote:With what we had to trade Camby Novak and nothing else but a pick we have to swap if necessary we got a player who scores 20 points a night who is 7-0 260. He should with a much more spread offense go up in efficiency.. What else were we going to get? They did it for the 1 and it could come back to haunt us but lets play the next 2 years out--then we haev massive free agency again.

and the players that actually have value are still on the roster. So the Knicks could actually make another splash this summer.

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:With what we had to trade Camby Novak and nothing else but a pick we have to swap if necessary we got a player who scores 20 points a night who is 7-0 260. He should with a much more spread offense go up in efficiency.. What else were we going to get? They did it for the 1 and it could come back to haunt us but lets play the next 2 years out--then we haev massive free agency again.

Agree. This was a tremendous deal for the Knicks.

I knew it. I knew you would support this awful trade. Still on that agenda I see.

JamesKPolk wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:With what we had to trade Camby Novak and nothing else but a pick we have to swap if necessary we got a player who scores 20 points a night who is 7-0 260. He should with a much more spread offense go up in efficiency.. What else were we going to get? They did it for the 1 and it could come back to haunt us but lets play the next 2 years out--then we haev massive free agency again.

Agree. This was a tremendous deal for the Knicks.

I knew it. I knew you would support this awful trade. Still on that agenda I see.

James we have a 2year window

BRIGGS wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:With what we had to trade Camby Novak and nothing else but a pick we have to swap if necessary we got a player who scores 20 points a night who is 7-0 260. He should with a much more spread offense go up in efficiency.. What else were we going to get? They did it for the 1 and it could come back to haunt us but lets play the next 2 years out--then we haev massive free agency again.

Agree. This was a tremendous deal for the Knicks.

I knew it. I knew you would support this awful trade. Still on that agenda I see.

James we have a 2year window

Right, which is why you save a first for a better player than Bargnani. The Raptors were begging teams to take him and we overpaid for him, as usual.