Brookyln Nets and Jason Kidd has it out to drown the Knicks and James Dolan and Carmelo Anthony.

Something happen last year that rubbed Kidd the wrong playing with Carmelo Anthony, when the team refused to play the right way after a beautiful start with team play and the ball being moved around.

Melo's personality has the team with a bullseye on it's back.

I'm wondering if Kidd knew he was going to coach this upcoming season for Brooklyn, while playing for the Knicks ?

Kidd knows very closely how Woodson likes coach and what he does in certain offensive and defensive situations.

Brooklyn Nets owner wants to take over NYC make the Knicks the Junior Varsity team in the city by taking on Pierce and Garnett who gave Carmelo all he could handle by getting into his head so easily.

I CAN HEAR THE CROWD CHANTING WITH CONVICTION Brooooook LYNNNNNNNNNN

Teams love coming to play the NY KNICKS, to get their thrills on the court and off the court.

This off season the Knicks will have to sign tough players to deal with Chicago, Miami ,Indiana, and the Nets.

The Knicks were pursuing Shawne Williams a guy at 28yrs of age who plays with a chip on his shoulder at 6'8 who had some off the court issues who played well in the spread offense.

This upcoming season we are going to need leadership beyond Coach Woodson, somebody has to get to Melo and tell him you don't have to be leagues leading scorer, but we need you to help your teammates get better by playing off all the attention you get.

With Kidd gone , we need someone who can command Melo's respect because I have to believe players were not pleased with Melo when he didn't keep the team concept along with JR Smith.

The Knicks need role players who does things well from reb, to hustle points and by grabbing loose balls and long offensive rebs and defending well.

This had to be planned all along, a lot of people hate this franchise and James Dolan.

We have nothing they want outside of Melo, Chandler, Felton, and Shumpert.

Amare is useless.

MinsHeartsReezy wrote:I don't see how at any time this season Melo pushed out Kidd or rubbed him wrong. Where on earth did you dig that up. Not once at any point in the season did Melo ever throw in the towel or throw anyone under the bus...no matter how much that particular person deserved to be. When all the Iman trade rumors came up he was the first to say it won't happen and he won't let it and look at what Iman was able to do in the postseason. As far as what other teams think, this is New York, no one ever wants to lose here...what's new. The only thing that will spark a BK NKY rivalry is the arrival KG and PP. And in all honesty I didn't mind the Nets before but now with those two playing for this town...I will not root for them at all...they might as well be the Celtics now for all I care.

Sure this team had their issues during the regular season but worked it out by the playoffs. Once in the playoffs the only four guys to show up were Melo, Shump, Felton and to a lesser extent Kmart and maaaaybe Pablo. Everyone else, as far as I'm concerned, can put up or shut up. Anyone can talk about leadership and commanding respect of your star players but if the so called leader is not performing and aren't consistent, their words don't mean a thing. This includes our two champions Kidd and Chandler, Smith and the rest of the bench. I had always favored Chandler over Noah but after a second straight postseason of playing like crap...I can admit I was wrong.

We have very little to work with and Grunwald will have to work his magic to get enough good pieces for next year's run. We need Amar'e to get healthy and stay that way, we need well rounded center who can defend and score, we need a consistent SG, and a backup PG or two depending on what happens with Pablo. We need players who will last the whole season. We need all this with barely any money to spend. I need to stay away from the forums during the offseason. No matter what I read here or say...come opening day the roster will be what it is and none of this will matter lol

Guys hate Melo so much now they have to make stuff up. Its kind of sad that someone would be so emotionally tied to a sport (many, many fans are insane) that they need to make stuff up to discredit a guy.

Its funny how around the league, are guys are often underrated until the become free agents. Then they have value, so I could really care less what other teams view the Knicks.

Most of them have little Dik syndrome and are just jealous of the attention we receive.

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:Kidd knew the knicks disliked the Nets he played against them last season, so for him to go there and become the head coach speaks volumes.

This had to be planned all along, a lot of people hate this franchise and James Dolan.

I think the Nets planned on hiring Brian Shaw. I also don't think going back to a place where you had your glory days, went to two finals and cemented your future as a hof is done to spite a team you played for one year in your 19 year career.

So what you are saying is when Jr and Melo reverted baCk to ISO WHEN WE WERE WINNING WITH BALL MOVEMENT, you don;t think guys like Iman, Prigioni, Novak Copeland, didn't want to keep playing that way ?

They were upset but had no juice card to complain. Chandler spoke UP for those guys , but his play didn't measure up because of the injury(SIC) and losing weight.
GAME 6
The Pacers appeared to be in control in the third quarter, leading by as many as 12 points, but Iman Shumpert caught fire, hitting three straight 3-pointers in a span of 64 seconds to spark a 12-2 run that tied the game at 72-all. Chris Copeland and J.R. Smith than added to a streak of seven consecutive 3-pointers made as the Knicks took a 92-90 lead with 5:42 remaining. Indiana's defense dug in as Anthony missed two shots and committed three turnovers.

tkf wrote:

playa2 wrote:Kidd knew the knicks disliked the Nets he played against them last season, so for him to go there and become the head coach speaks volumes.

This had to be planned all along, a lot of people hate this franchise and James Dolan.

no kidding playa... and not for one minute was I buying all of Kidd's BS of this team being like the mavs with carmelo playing the role of dirk.. rofl.. I just can't see how kidd would even enjoy playing with carmelo..

tkf wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

tkf wrote:

playa2 wrote:Kidd knew the knicks disliked the Nets he played against them last season, so for him to go there and become the head coach speaks volumes.

This had to be planned all along, a lot of people hate this franchise and James Dolan.

no kidding playa... and not for one minute was I buying all of Kidd's BS of this team being like the mavs with carmelo playing the role of dirk.. rofl.. I just can't see how kidd would even enjoy playing with carmelo..

Dirk up until this past year with his injuries was a better player.

of course.. but what irked me was all of this campaigning for carmelo kidd was doing when he first got here.. It just seemed to contrived... I never bought into that for one minute... I think he came here with another plan..... IMO

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:Kidd knew the knicks disliked the Nets he played against them last season, so for him to go there and become the head coach speaks volumes.

This had to be planned all along, a lot of people hate this franchise and James Dolan.

I think the Nets planned on hiring Brian Shaw. I also don't think going back to a place where you had your glory days, went to two finals and cemented your future as a hof is done to spite a team you played for one year in your 19 year career.

So what you are saying is when Jr and Melo reverted baCk to ISO WHEN WE WERE WINNING WITH BALL MOVEMENT, you don;t think guys like Iman, Prigioni, Novak Copeland, didn't want to keep playing that way ?

They were upset but had no juice card to complain. Chandler spoke UP for those guys , but his play didn't measure up because of the injury(SIC) and losing weight.
GAME 6
The Pacers appeared to be in control in the third quarter, leading by as many as 12 points, but Iman Shumpert caught fire, hitting three straight 3-pointers in a span of 64 seconds to spark a 12-2 run that tied the game at 72-all. Chris Copeland and J.R. Smith than added to a streak of seven consecutive 3-pointers made as the Knicks took a 92-90 lead with 5:42 remaining. Indiana's defense dug in as Anthony missed two shots and committed three turnovers.

No I am not saying that. Kidd was done as a player his body couldn't take the pounding anymore and he wasn't effective on the court. I am saying that he took the Nets job because it was where he had his glory years, went to allstar games and nba finals. He did not take the Nets coaching job because he hates the Knicks.

He wasn't angry with the knicks , he just used them to get closer to the masterplan.

Prokovich has Zillions of dollars, Kidd came to NY for a big payday(got it), and now he knows how bad Nets owner wants to beat the knicks and win the division (his primary goal). He observed and took notes how Woody coached and figured he could do that. Pierce and Garnett loves beating Melo and know how to get into his head so they signed on too.

Stern hates the Knicks too and loved for thsi to go down the way it did.

I'm starting to wonder whats up with James Dolan behind close doors and why he and Isiah are so tight.

Nobody wants to trade with us to give us pieces with out raping us.

The league hates the Knicks owner !

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:Kidd knew the knicks disliked the Nets he played against them last season, so for him to go there and become the head coach speaks volumes.

This had to be planned all along, a lot of people hate this franchise and James Dolan.

I think the Nets planned on hiring Brian Shaw. I also don't think going back to a place where you had your glory days, went to two finals and cemented your future as a hof is done to spite a team you played for one year in your 19 year career.

So what you are saying is when Jr and Melo reverted baCk to ISO WHEN WE WERE WINNING WITH BALL MOVEMENT, you don;t think guys like Iman, Prigioni, Novak Copeland, didn't want to keep playing that way ?

They were upset but had no juice card to complain. Chandler spoke UP for those guys , but his play didn't measure up because of the injury(SIC) and losing weight.
GAME 6
The Pacers appeared to be in control in the third quarter, leading by as many as 12 points, but Iman Shumpert caught fire, hitting three straight 3-pointers in a span of 64 seconds to spark a 12-2 run that tied the game at 72-all. Chris Copeland and J.R. Smith than added to a streak of seven consecutive 3-pointers made as the Knicks took a 92-90 lead with 5:42 remaining. Indiana's defense dug in as Anthony missed two shots and committed three turnovers.

No I am not saying that. Kidd was done as a player his body couldn't take the pounding anymore and he wasn't effective on the court. I am saying that he took the Nets job because it was where he had his glory years, went to allstar games and nba finals. He did not take the Nets coaching job because he hates the Knicks.

He wasn't angry with the knicks , he just used them to get closer to the masterplan.

Prokovich has Zillions of dollars, Kidd came to NY for a big payday(got it), and now he knows how bad Nets owner wants to beat the knicks and win the division (his primary goal). He observed and took notes how Woody coached and figured he could do that. Pierce and Garnett loves beating Melo and know how to get into his head so they signed on too.

Stern hates the Knicks too and loved for thsi to go down the way it did.

I'm starting to wonder whats up with James Dolan behind close doors and why he and Isiah are so tight.

Nobody wants to trade with us to give us pieces with out raping us.

The league hates the Knicks owner !

When the Knicks were getting taken advantage of in trades they were trying to create cap space. Everyone knew their end game because it was stated by their gm and in my opinion that was why they did not come out ahead in trades. Currently the Knicks have nothing to trade. The earliest first round pick they can trade is their 2016 first rounder.

actually we have our 2015 but i hope we dont trade it