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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34064 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
6/18/2013 11:09 AM
Interesting. I watch a lot of college hoops but am relatively unfamiliar with him. SOme quick research shows his father is a basketball coach. I love that - especially with a PG - because it means he knows 'how to play the right way'
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Lol Rick needs a safe space
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
6/18/2013 11:14 AM LAST EDITED: 6/18/2013 11:46 AM
This guy has some Russell Westbrook in him--I mean judge for yourself. Hes fast with the ball and plays way above the rim with a speed dribble force and power. How the heck did I miss this guy?
RIP Crushalot😞
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callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
6/18/2013 12:38 PM LAST EDITED: 6/18/2013 12:49 PM
from what i recall...this is the kid who chose to play with his father at detroit...an mcd all american who chose to go to a small school...i remember getting mad at that because we wouldnt be able to watch him play alot...i watched him play whenever i had the chance...i always get this kid and the lehigh kid (CJ McCullom) confused...i thought ray was the lottery pick everyone was talking about...anyways..YES hes a great talent but why isnt he a lottery pick then?
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
6/18/2013 1:38 PM
callmened wrote:from what i recall...this is the kid who chose to play with his father at detroit...an mcd all american who chose to go to a small school...i remember getting mad at that because we wouldnt be able to watch him play alot...i watched him play whenever i had the chance...i always get this kid and the lehigh kid (CJ McCullom) confused...i thought ray was the lottery pick everyone was talking about...anyways..YES hes a great talent but why isnt he a lottery pick then? yeah, I thought he was going to UF |
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callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
6/18/2013 1:38 PM
this kid is by FAR superior to the "other" McCullum...i wonder why hes not rated as highly??
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34064 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
6/18/2013 1:51 PM
callmened wrote:this kid is by FAR superior to the "other" McCullum...i wonder why hes not rated as highly?? school choice and therefore television exposure. hmmmm maybe a diamond in the rough DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
6/18/2013 4:15 PM LAST EDITED: 6/18/2013 5:34 PM
Solid player. Coach's son with a smooth, solid game and a pretty high B-Ball IQ. Came away a little unimpressed the last 2 games of the season though. Both games were televised -- Complete no-show against Wright St. from what I remember and then had all sorts of trouble against ASU (Carson/Felix). Also, I remember hearing that he suffered some injury not too long ago (was it a knee?) that sapped some of his athleticism and that he may not the same player he once was (the player you see in all these highlight reels). Could be a red flag or maybe I just misheard -- trying to confirm the injury and can't find anything.
Another similar player that's not getting a lot of attention -- Vander Blue from Marquette. About 6'5", very athletic, can get to the rim and finish with either hand, and despite the underwhelming shooting % from deep (around 30%), his shooting stroke looks very good to me -- the top portion at least; it looks like his bottom half gets thrown outta wack after his jump and release where he gets contorted a little and he tends to drift & land off balance -- but that's definitely correctable. Shumpert had consistency problems shooting the ball in college but his stroke always looked 1st rate -- clean form and release for the most part at G-Tech. Now with hard work after a couple of years as a pro, there's a night and day difference...Same deal with this kid -- just needs to work on squaring up and getting proper body control. There's a lot to like here otherwise -- very athletic with a good handle...Like a lot of these tweener 1/2s, he's not a pure point by any stretch but at 6'4"-6'5" with those skills, it's hard not to think of Westbrook (UCLA version at least) when watching him. McCallum probably gets drafted; this kid may not but he could be a great guy to get for summer league. And a sleeper bigman I've been watching a lot of tape on recently -- Jamelle Hagins from Delaware. About 6'9" 230-235 or so, known as a defender/shot-blocker/rebounder (CAA Defensive POY) -- what surprises me most about him is how solid his footwork looks in the post. Looks real comfortable posting up and finishing with either hand down low where he shows real nice touch. Solid touch at the FT line too (75% - which is very good for a bigman) and supposedly he played very well at Portsmouth, even showing a solid mid-range jumpshot there (shown briefly in this clip throughout). That all indicates his touch is real and not some fluke...Averaged almost 11 & 11 last year with 2.4 blocks a game (2 prior seasons he was at 3 blks/per each season). Season before that was even better: 12.4 ppg/11.1 rpg/3 blks per. I dunno man -- 6'9" (maybe he grows another inch?) with that athleticism and reach, the ability to block shots at a good clip, rebound the ball very well AND put the ball in the hole with either hand while flashing that kind of footwork, agility and touch -- definitely a guy that we should be keeping an eye on. He's worked out for some teams but I don't believe for us yet. As is he looks NBA ready -- imagine if he puts on another 5, 10 lbs, maybe grew another half inch to an inch? Look out!! This guy looks like a steal late in this draft. Skill-wise, he looks right there with a guy like Cory Jefferson -- maybe better. Kenyon Martin might be a better comparison. Picture K-Mart, maybe a little less athletic (not to say this kid Hagins isn't athletic; clearly he is) but more skilled offensively with his back to the basket and facing up. |
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
6/18/2013 5:24 PM LAST EDITED: 6/18/2013 5:44 PM
agree with Ray (mini ROY Lilliard comparisions) and Hagins (solid 4year under radar PF that can contribute and DO A BIT OF EVERYTHING),
thus why I would call Portland to guage interest for Chandler in a deal of 2nd round picks 39,40,45, draft rights back for Pap, The ability to fill all our holes with one deal that would allow us to compete for the next couple years and build up to the 2015 FA class with low salary I have been praising Hagins since the first day I saw him and I think he can be a STEAL at the mid 2nd round We need to find our own next Danny Green, Gary Neal, Tiago Splitter, etc... |
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Hersports85
Posts: 20391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/19/2012 Member: #4397 |
6/18/2013 5:58 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:callmened wrote:this kid is by FAR superior to the "other" McCullum...i wonder why hes not rated as highly?? I agree. I live in the Detroit Metro area and has watched the guy play a few times. I would love to get him on the team. He does the little things, plays the game right, very physical, and has a lot of potential. If we can buy a high 2nd round pick, I wouldn't mind taking him. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
6/18/2013 6:16 PM
Hersports85 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:callmened wrote:this kid is by FAR superior to the "other" McCullum...i wonder why hes not rated as highly?? I think in last years draft he was easy round 1. I did see him get schooled by Jahii Carson and he never stood out to me in that game--but it's impossible to gauge everything on one game--showing etc.. You can see from his game film that he will be a really nice NBA player from the PG position. His jumpshot needs work but the physical part of the game size speed and speed with the ball elite type NBA athleticism with finishing ability fits an nBA PG in this era to a tee. I mean he is 6-2 190+ with a 40 inch vertical. Even with high usage(35minutes plus) he was a low TO PG and one thing I always love from that position is someone who can rebound the ball. This is a guy who can help our defense and transition game(which was ranked 30th) I can see why DX moved him up to prospect #33 out of 100 an the might be better than that. RIP Crushalot😞
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
6/18/2013 6:22 PM
Draftnet updated today and has McCallum at 48 and Kabongo at 47. I would like to see the Knicks pick either of those guys especially if they can get a second pick.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
6/18/2013 6:32 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Draftnet updated today and has McCallum at 48 and Kabongo at 47. I would like to see the Knicks pick either of those guys especially if they can get a second pick. look at MacCallum's TO ratio --its very very low despite high usage. Hes been 2.5-1 A-TO for his career. RIP Crushalot😞
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
6/19/2013 11:25 AM LAST EDITED: 6/19/2013 4:15 PM
So what's the word on McCallum's injury? Anything to it? I couldn't find anything. Anyone hear anything on this? Wouldn't want to draft a player that was damaged goods. Probably nothing to it, otherwise the information would be out there...Definitely interested if we could get him. Not sure about him at 24 but with an additional later pick, he'd be a good addition. I think this kid's a nice player..
I tell ya what, a guy I'd like to see in for Summer league -- Gerardo Suero. 6'4"-6'5" SG that played 1 year for Albany (where he was great) before moving on to go play in Venezuela. He's nothing like McCallum -- this guy's a pure attacking, offensive-minded 2G all the way. I think we need help at both guard spots, esp. if JR Smith isn't retained. His impressive stat-line that 1 season for Albany again (2011-2012): 21.7 ppg, on 46% FGs (36% on 3s), 83% FTs (220-265), 5.8 rpg, 3.1 apg, 1.3 steals. His style is get out and run and relentless attack the rim. High % basketball... Gets to the line a ton and he can make his FTs. And when that's not there, it looks like he can shoot the ball from the perimeter fairly well too. I'm all for bringing this dude in for summer ball. Let's see if he's anything close to Manu Ginobli. Their body types/size & aggressive styles of play look similar. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
6/19/2013 9:30 PM
Finestrg wrote:So what's the word on McCallum's injury? Anything to it? I couldn't find anything. Anyone hear anything on this? Wouldn't want to draft a player that was damaged goods. Probably nothing to it, otherwise the information would be out there...Definitely interested if we could get him. Not sure about him at 24 but with an additional later pick, he'd be a good addition. I think this kid's a nice player.. Ive never seen him fine. RIP Crushalot😞
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34064 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
6/19/2013 9:45 PM
Hersports85 wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:callmened wrote:this kid is by FAR superior to the "other" McCullum...i wonder why hes not rated as highly?? can the Knicks buy a second rounder this year? I don't understand the new rules but I certainly hope they can bride a team with cash and get a pick in the 31-40 range DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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