is that we don't have two-way players. We have a few nice offensive pieces, two undersized Cs in KT and NZR who dont intimidate[although KT is probably the best defender on the team] + your primary wings are H2O TT backed up by Penny, the defense is not going to be as good as the offense. We have had selected times during the year when we had Deke Van Horn Andersen Mcdyess Ward where we played good D-although there wasnt suffecient offensive balance---going forward we need to find balance---i still believe we need to increase athletiscm and get bigger and younger-and somehow find a set rotation of players.

I totally disagree with that. The only reason that our team doesn't have a defensive identity is because Lenny was never knowned as a defensive coach. Look at Dallas, they don't have a defensive minded coach, therefore they don't play defense. As for two way players, we have plenty: Marb is a PG/SG (G), TT is a SG/SF/PF, Kurt is a SF/PF/C, same goes for Naser. What we really need is for Lenny to get a clue, and a sense of urgency. The team takes his demeanor on the court. They have started slow almost every game. Mainly because of bad starting lineup. Anderson?????? Why is he a starter???????

I don't believe that individual defender is that beneficial to a team. Team D concept is the best approach. However, the coach or bether yet the anchor (Marburry) has to demand it from his team-mates.

I think that this problem was created by the approach of either Isia or Lenny. After the big trade, one of the two should have gone to Marb and immediately promote him to captain. As a Captain, it would be imperative for him to command, or be more voccal on the court.

If I am wrong, please let me know.

I understand what Briggs is saying and patially agree.

I think a better way to put it is we dont do enough other things well to survive a bad shooting night. When Steph, TT, KT, Nazr and co are hitting their open shots we can win any game. But when he shoot a low % from the field we arent good enough in the other areas to overcome that. Those other areas being defense, rebounding, taking care of the ball, forcing turnovers, blocking shots and getting to the FT line.

The KNicks of the 90s could shoot 39% in a playoff series and win because we would got to the line 25 times, totally dominate the boards and hold the opposition to an even lower FG%.

That being said I still just think we need some time. Memphis won 28 games last year even after Hubie was hired shortly after the start of the season. Look at them now...

I totally disagree about Lenny not being a defensive minded coach. His Hawk teams of the 90s with Steve Smith, Mookie and Deke certainly were not a scoring group. They won 45-50 games each year because they played tough defense.

We have had so much player movement we dont even have a set rotation yet for crying out loud.