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holfresh
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6/15/2013  11:42 PM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
dk7th wrote:they have some pretty cutting edge medicine in europe no pun intended. still that is great news for the nuggets. that team just isn't as solid when he is out.

i hear they have cool mobile phones too,

hey this is great news for Young Danilo,

DANILO WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR YOU HERE AT ULTIMATEKNICKS, WE LOVE YOU MAN,

there are a lot of posters who wish him ill, regretfully.

I don't see that at all. I think some posters think that he is overrated by some here. He was very well liked when he was on the team.


he is the whipping boy for the contingent of posters who need to prop up melo since apparently melo can't stand alone on his own merits. and as the whipping boy his game has to be brought down. if anything he is underrated. and if i say posters wish him ill it is only to the degree that his approach to the game threatens players like carmelo anthony, and the fans whose egos are attached to melo's game.

Like Melo became the whipping boy for those who blame him for "forcing the trade" that involved Gallo...

of the two players one had a great deal of control over the situation and the other had zero say in the matter.

So your Melo hang up has to do with Gallo being traded correct?

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6/15/2013  11:50 PM
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
dk7th wrote:they have some pretty cutting edge medicine in europe no pun intended. still that is great news for the nuggets. that team just isn't as solid when he is out.

i hear they have cool mobile phones too,

hey this is great news for Young Danilo,

DANILO WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR YOU HERE AT ULTIMATEKNICKS, WE LOVE YOU MAN,

there are a lot of posters who wish him ill, regretfully.

I don't see that at all. I think some posters think that he is overrated by some here. He was very well liked when he was on the team.


he is the whipping boy for the contingent of posters who need to prop up melo since apparently melo can't stand alone on his own merits. and as the whipping boy his game has to be brought down. if anything he is underrated. and if i say posters wish him ill it is only to the degree that his approach to the game threatens players like carmelo anthony, and the fans whose egos are attached to melo's game.

Like Melo became the whipping boy for those who blame him for "forcing the trade" that involved Gallo...

of the two players one had a great deal of control over the situation and the other had zero say in the matter.

So your Melo hang up has to do with Gallo being traded correct?

my hangup is about what it takes to win and melo as the main guy ain't gonna get us to the promised land. but i have been told it isn't really about winning with the knicks it's about putting an entertaining product on the floor. do you agree with knickscity on this point?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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6/16/2013  12:00 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/16/2013  12:06 AM
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
holfresh wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
dk7th wrote:they have some pretty cutting edge medicine in europe no pun intended. still that is great news for the nuggets. that team just isn't as solid when he is out.

i hear they have cool mobile phones too,

hey this is great news for Young Danilo,

DANILO WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR YOU HERE AT ULTIMATEKNICKS, WE LOVE YOU MAN,

there are a lot of posters who wish him ill, regretfully.

I don't see that at all. I think some posters think that he is overrated by some here. He was very well liked when he was on the team.


he is the whipping boy for the contingent of posters who need to prop up melo since apparently melo can't stand alone on his own merits. and as the whipping boy his game has to be brought down. if anything he is underrated. and if i say posters wish him ill it is only to the degree that his approach to the game threatens players like carmelo anthony, and the fans whose egos are attached to melo's game.

Like Melo became the whipping boy for those who blame him for "forcing the trade" that involved Gallo...

of the two players one had a great deal of control over the situation and the other had zero say in the matter.

So your Melo hang up has to do with Gallo being traded correct?

my hangup is about what it takes to win and melo as the main guy ain't gonna get us to the promised land. but i have been told it isn't really about winning with the knicks it's about putting an entertaining product on the floor. do you agree with knickscity on this point?

Well do the math yourself...Knicks+Melo+Woodson-MDA-Gallo=54 wins and into the second round..The Heat is showing you that a team need more than one player if its going to win ...54 wins and second round is a start..Get him another player...I am convince that Melo and one other stud can beat the Heat..Melo and Chris Paul can beat the Heat..We need one more guy...UNO..

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6/16/2013  12:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/16/2013  12:06 AM
For a guy who relies on all sort of stats and metrics, you seem to ignore the most important stat of all, wins...
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6/17/2013  9:22 AM
Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

You guys spend a lot of time commenting on the internet?
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6/17/2013  9:43 AM
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

fishmike said: Yes. Sometimes I confuse the alerts with when your mom calls. BTW she said defensive guards are really important.
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6/17/2013  11:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/17/2013  11:16 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Nuggets' Danilo Gallinari might return sooner than expected from knee surgery

Posted: 06/14/2013 05:41:31 PM MDT
Updated: 06/14/2013 06:34:44 PM MDT
By Benjamin Hochman
The Denver Post



Nuggets forward Danilo Gallinari is helped off the court after injuring his knee in a game April 4 against the Dallas Mavericks at the Pepsi Center. (John Leyba, Denver Post file)

Nuggets forward Danilo Gallinari could return by December as opposed to February, a league source told The Denver Post.

Gallinari, who underwent knee surgery at the end of the season, had been projected by the Nuggets to miss half of the 2013-14 season. But Gallo posted a video on his official Facebook page Friday in Italian, and in the video Gallo said his left ACL wasn't torn and his recovery time will be "completely different" than previously reported, according to the Italian journalist Davide Chinellato. He is a writer for Italian La Gazzetta dello Sport and translated Gallo's video and posted the quotes on Twitter).

Chinellato tweeted that Gallo called it "great news." Here are more tweets from him:

@dchinellato: #Nuggets Gallinari: "I underwent a healing response procedure, in which ligament is stimulated to respond naturally"

@dchinellato: #Nuggets Gallinari: "This procedure changes completely my rehab and recovery time. But I'll inform you later about that"


Read more: Nuggets' Danilo Gallinari might return sooner than expected from knee surgery - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_23463979/nuggets-danilo-gallinari-might-return-sooner-than-expected#ixzz2WGRJfpTG
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I'm not surprised its already gone 2pages. I really liked Gallo and wish him well, just isn't deserving of the love he gets here. Now that I have added to my post count, please feel free to continue :)

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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6/17/2013  11:16 AM
Lighten up. I'm glad he posted it here. No one checks the other forums.
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6/17/2013  11:22 AM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
dk7th wrote:they have some pretty cutting edge medicine in europe no pun intended. still that is great news for the nuggets. that team just isn't as solid when he is out.

i hear they have cool mobile phones too,

hey this is great news for Young Danilo,

DANILO WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR YOU HERE AT ULTIMATEKNICKS, WE LOVE YOU MAN,

there are a lot of posters who wish him ill, regretfully.

I don't see that at all. I think some posters think that he is overrated by some here. He was very well liked when he was on the team.


he is the whipping boy for the contingent of posters who need to prop up melo since apparently melo can't stand alone on his own merits. and as the whipping boy his game has to be brought down. if anything he is underrated. and if i say posters wish him ill it is only to the degree that his approach to the game threatens players like carmelo anthony, and the fans whose egos are attached to melo's game.

exactly....I said this many times.. let him stand on his own... but he can't and people won't defend him that way... never have I heard a so called star having to be defended by pointing out the shortcomings of a so called "lesser player".. go figure...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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6/17/2013  11:23 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:
dk7th wrote:they have some pretty cutting edge medicine in europe no pun intended. still that is great news for the nuggets. that team just isn't as solid when he is out.

i hear they have cool mobile phones too,

hey this is great news for Young Danilo,

DANILO WE ARE ALL PRAYING FOR YOU HERE AT ULTIMATEKNICKS, WE LOVE YOU MAN,

there are a lot of posters who wish him ill, regretfully.

I don't see that at all. I think some posters think that he is overrated by some here. He was very well liked when he was on the team.


he is the whipping boy for the contingent of posters who need to prop up melo since apparently melo can't stand alone on his own merits. and as the whipping boy his game has to be brought down. if anything he is underrated. and if i say posters wish him ill it is only to the degree that his approach to the game threatens players like carmelo anthony, and the fans whose egos are attached to melo's game.

That's your opinion. The guy isn't on the court enough to be underrated. He can be a good player but he is dogged by injuries. This past offseason it was his shoulder and back. His rookie year it was his back. He missed significant time with finger injuries. He is missing significant time with his knee. Maybe its bad luck and maybe he overcomes it but his injury history isn't something someone needs to exaggerate to make a point. It is documented and unfortunately it continues to dog him.

since gallo's rookie season you know he just played something like 11 games less than mr. 10-35?

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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6/17/2013  11:26 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

Wilson Chandler, and no one cares.
Moz is just fugly on so many levels.
It's a known and documented UK "fact" that Gallo has always had the greatest Knick hair, in the non-message category.

You guys spend a lot of time commenting on the internet?
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6/17/2013  11:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/17/2013  11:32 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:Lighten up. I'm glad he posted it here. No one checks the other forums.

I don't think he's deserving of the love he gets but, I got no problem with this thread. I'm actually happy to hear it. I'm one that was not happy to see him moved but, I have to accept what I can't change. Its seeing his name injected into threads that have nothing to do with him that sometimes gets to me but, this on is OK.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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6/17/2013  12:24 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

when they were both knicks there were endless arguments about the relative merits of chandler and gallinari. i always believed that gallinari would end up being considered the more valuable starter because he is more skilled on both ends of the court. i like chandler a lot but he looked a little overwhelmed this postseason. both he and brewer do not have the kind of games that translate well in playoff competition unless they are coming off the bench for the majority of their minutes. in the playoffs the value of gallinari is his ability to get to the line, slowing the game down against teams like the warriors. he also makes better decisions with the ball than chandler and brewer. chandler is a bit too shot-happy compared to gallinari, which also drives down his value in the playoffs.

is gallinari good looking? i had not noticed but thanks for pointing that out

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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6/17/2013  12:46 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Lighten up. I'm glad he posted it here. No one checks the other forums.

I don't think he's deserving of the love he gets but, I got no problem with this thread. I'm actually happy to hear it. I'm one that was not happy to see him moved but, I have to accept what I can't change. Its seeing his name injected into threads that have nothing to do with him that sometimes gets to me but, this on is OK.


That's fine. You have to realize that the hardcore Melo supporters bring up Gallo at least as often as any trade critics do though.
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6/17/2013  12:48 PM
dk7th wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

when they were both knicks there were endless arguments about the relative merits of chandler and gallinari. i always believed that gallinari would end up being considered the more valuable starter because he is more skilled on both ends of the court. i like chandler a lot but he looked a little overwhelmed this postseason. both he and brewer do not have the kind of games that translate well in playoff competition unless they are coming off the bench for the majority of their minutes. in the playoffs the value of gallinari is his ability to get to the line, slowing the game down against teams like the warriors. he also makes better decisions with the ball than chandler and brewer. chandler is a bit too shot-happy compared to gallinari, which also drives down his value in the playoffs.

is gallinari good looking? i had not noticed but thanks for pointing that out

I do understand to some extent why posters here have a bone to pick for those who champion Gallo. Yeah the Nuggets missed Gallo's presence this playoffs but ultimately Denver lost because of their lack of defending GSW's back court and unless you truly feel Gallo could have done that whether individually or through team defense, you're fooling yourself.


Here's what's more intriguing IMO which is why I can't stand when too many concessions are made for Gallo. If you look at last yrs playoffs, you know the one in which the Nuggets played the Lakers in the first round you'll notice Chandler didn't play 1 game. Barely heard a peep of his absence from the Gallo crowd. You say Gallo's game is built for the playoffs...well look at his numbers in that series and you'll see they weren't any better than Chandler's against GSW.


Numbers don't lie...matter of fact Gallo had 2 completely dud performances


http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/den/year/2012/denver-nuggets Series vs Lakers check each Box Score

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3428/year/2012/danilo-gallinari Gallo's numbers that series, pretty terrible to say the least


I think what hurts many posters arguments, is when they let their personal feelings for a player get in the way of making objective posts.

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6/17/2013  1:03 PM
3G4G wrote:
dk7th wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

when they were both knicks there were endless arguments about the relative merits of chandler and gallinari. i always believed that gallinari would end up being considered the more valuable starter because he is more skilled on both ends of the court. i like chandler a lot but he looked a little overwhelmed this postseason. both he and brewer do not have the kind of games that translate well in playoff competition unless they are coming off the bench for the majority of their minutes. in the playoffs the value of gallinari is his ability to get to the line, slowing the game down against teams like the warriors. he also makes better decisions with the ball than chandler and brewer. chandler is a bit too shot-happy compared to gallinari, which also drives down his value in the playoffs.

is gallinari good looking? i had not noticed but thanks for pointing that out

I do understand to some extent why posters here have a bone to pick for those who champion Gallo. Yeah the Nuggets missed Gallo's presence this playoffs but ultimately Denver lost because of their lack of defending GSW's back court and unless you truly feel Gallo could have done that whether individually or through team defense, you're fooling yourself.


Here's what's more intriguing IMO which is why I can't stand when too many concessions are made for Gallo. If you look at last yrs playoffs, you know the one in which the Nuggets played the Lakers in the first round you'll notice Chandler didn't play 1 game. Barely heard a peep of his absence from the Gallo crowd. You say Gallo's game is built for the playoffs...well look at his numbers in that series and you'll see they weren't any better than Chandler's against GSW.


Numbers don't lie...matter of fact Gallo had 2 completely dud performances


http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/den/year/2012/denver-nuggets Series vs Lakers check each Box Score

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3428/year/2012/danilo-gallinari Gallo's numbers that series, pretty terrible to say the least


I think what hurts many posters arguments, is when they let their personal feelings for a player get in the way of making objective posts.


+1
3G4G, rapidly moving up the UK rationality meter.

Waits to see someone applaud this post.

You guys spend a lot of time commenting on the internet?
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6/17/2013  1:37 PM
3G4G wrote:
dk7th wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

when they were both knicks there were endless arguments about the relative merits of chandler and gallinari. i always believed that gallinari would end up being considered the more valuable starter because he is more skilled on both ends of the court. i like chandler a lot but he looked a little overwhelmed this postseason. both he and brewer do not have the kind of games that translate well in playoff competition unless they are coming off the bench for the majority of their minutes. in the playoffs the value of gallinari is his ability to get to the line, slowing the game down against teams like the warriors. he also makes better decisions with the ball than chandler and brewer. chandler is a bit too shot-happy compared to gallinari, which also drives down his value in the playoffs.

is gallinari good looking? i had not noticed but thanks for pointing that out

I do understand to some extent why posters here have a bone to pick for those who champion Gallo. Yeah the Nuggets missed Gallo's presence this playoffs but ultimately Denver lost because of their lack of defending GSW's back court and unless you truly feel Gallo could have done that whether individually or through team defense, you're fooling yourself.


Here's what's more intriguing IMO which is why I can't stand when too many concessions are made for Gallo. If you look at last yrs playoffs, you know the one in which the Nuggets played the Lakers in the first round you'll notice Chandler didn't play 1 game. Barely heard a peep of his absence from the Gallo crowd. You say Gallo's game is built for the playoffs...well look at his numbers in that series and you'll see they weren't any better than Chandler's against GSW.


Numbers don't lie...matter of fact Gallo had 2 completely dud performances


http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/den/year/2012/denver-nuggets Series vs Lakers check each Box Score

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3428/year/2012/danilo-gallinari Gallo's numbers that series, pretty terrible to say the least


I think what hurts many posters arguments, is when they let their personal feelings for a player get in the way of making objective posts.

Not to defend Gallo who really didn't play as good as he could, but there was nobody on the level of Artest's defensive intensity on the warriors roster this year.
Unfortunately for Gallinari, he struggles a lot against physical defenders like Artest, especially when they're allowed to rough him up a little. Gallo did have really good games against the Warriors during the season and posed heavy matchup issues to GS.

Him being there during the GSW series would have helped a lot, as well as David Lee not being hurt as it pushed the Warriors into playing a guard heavy lineup to which Georges Karl didn't adjust at all.
The Nuggets were also really bad at defending the 3pts shot and Curry blossomed during that series before tweaking his ankle against the spurs. Perfect storm.

Just to add a few nuances to your post.

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6/17/2013  1:39 PM
3G4G wrote:
dk7th wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

when they were both knicks there were endless arguments about the relative merits of chandler and gallinari. i always believed that gallinari would end up being considered the more valuable starter because he is more skilled on both ends of the court. i like chandler a lot but he looked a little overwhelmed this postseason. both he and brewer do not have the kind of games that translate well in playoff competition unless they are coming off the bench for the majority of their minutes. in the playoffs the value of gallinari is his ability to get to the line, slowing the game down against teams like the warriors. he also makes better decisions with the ball than chandler and brewer. chandler is a bit too shot-happy compared to gallinari, which also drives down his value in the playoffs.

is gallinari good looking? i had not noticed but thanks for pointing that out

I do understand to some extent why posters here have a bone to pick for those who champion Gallo. Yeah the Nuggets missed Gallo's presence this playoffs but ultimately Denver lost because of their lack of defending GSW's back court and unless you truly feel Gallo could have done that whether individually or through team defense, you're fooling yourself.


Here's what's more intriguing IMO which is why I can't stand when too many concessions are made for Gallo. If you look at last yrs playoffs, you know the one in which the Nuggets played the Lakers in the first round you'll notice Chandler didn't play 1 game. Barely heard a peep of his absence from the Gallo crowd. You say Gallo's game is built for the playoffs...well look at his numbers in that series and you'll see they weren't any better than Chandler's against GSW.


Numbers don't lie...matter of fact Gallo had 2 completely dud performances


http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/den/year/2012/denver-nuggets Series vs Lakers check each Box Score

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3428/year/2012/danilo-gallinari Gallo's numbers that series, pretty terrible to say the least


I think what hurts many posters arguments, is when they let their personal feelings for a player get in the way of making objective posts.


GOOD post... Actually gallo didn't have a good playoff series... with that said it doesn't change a thing about the moves we made, be it gallo, AR, chandler, moz, the picks, it was just one big mess, and two bad playoff games from gallo can't change that.... We lost a lot of assets, not just gallo..

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6/17/2013  1:42 PM
raven wrote:
3G4G wrote:
dk7th wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

when they were both knicks there were endless arguments about the relative merits of chandler and gallinari. i always believed that gallinari would end up being considered the more valuable starter because he is more skilled on both ends of the court. i like chandler a lot but he looked a little overwhelmed this postseason. both he and brewer do not have the kind of games that translate well in playoff competition unless they are coming off the bench for the majority of their minutes. in the playoffs the value of gallinari is his ability to get to the line, slowing the game down against teams like the warriors. he also makes better decisions with the ball than chandler and brewer. chandler is a bit too shot-happy compared to gallinari, which also drives down his value in the playoffs.

is gallinari good looking? i had not noticed but thanks for pointing that out

I do understand to some extent why posters here have a bone to pick for those who champion Gallo. Yeah the Nuggets missed Gallo's presence this playoffs but ultimately Denver lost because of their lack of defending GSW's back court and unless you truly feel Gallo could have done that whether individually or through team defense, you're fooling yourself.


Here's what's more intriguing IMO which is why I can't stand when too many concessions are made for Gallo. If you look at last yrs playoffs, you know the one in which the Nuggets played the Lakers in the first round you'll notice Chandler didn't play 1 game. Barely heard a peep of his absence from the Gallo crowd. You say Gallo's game is built for the playoffs...well look at his numbers in that series and you'll see they weren't any better than Chandler's against GSW.


Numbers don't lie...matter of fact Gallo had 2 completely dud performances


http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/den/year/2012/denver-nuggets Series vs Lakers check each Box Score

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3428/year/2012/danilo-gallinari Gallo's numbers that series, pretty terrible to say the least


I think what hurts many posters arguments, is when they let their personal feelings for a player get in the way of making objective posts.

Not to defend Gallo who really didn't play as good as he could, but there was nobody on the level of Artest's defensive intensity on the warriors roster this year.
Unfortunately for Gallinari, he struggles a lot against physical defenders like Artest, especially when they're allowed to rough him up a little. Gallo did have really good games against the Warriors during the season and posed heavy matchup issues to GS.

Him being there during the GSW series would have helped a lot, as well as David Lee not being hurt as it pushed the Warriors into playing a guard heavy lineup to which Georges Karl didn't adjust at all.
The Nuggets were also really bad at defending the 3pts shot and Curry blossomed during that series before tweaking his ankle against the spurs. Perfect storm.

Just to add a few nuances to your post.

you make some great points.. but even if gallo just had a bad series, regardless of who was guarding him, it wasn't great, but if we are going to judge gallo based on one series, then shouldn't we already have come to the conclusion that carmelo is a playoff loser after 11 seasons? no excuses...

Again, pointing out gallo's flaws by some posters doesn't make carmelo's past any better...

I think 3g was just saying keep some perspective when judging any player....

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6/17/2013  1:58 PM
jrodmc wrote:
3G4G wrote:
dk7th wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Pointless hate will tend to always ignore reality.

Imagine the threads had:
1) Denver won their division
2) Denver made it out of the first round.
2) Gallo actually played well in the playoffs.


Oh, the humanity.
It's okay. Gallo got hurt again and Melo's here playing. Still. The trade has not yet been rescinded, three years later.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

funny how no one really cares that Wilson Chandler is gone too, or that Timofey Mozgov was included in the trade. Well, pause, Gallo is a good lookin white dude

when they were both knicks there were endless arguments about the relative merits of chandler and gallinari. i always believed that gallinari would end up being considered the more valuable starter because he is more skilled on both ends of the court. i like chandler a lot but he looked a little overwhelmed this postseason. both he and brewer do not have the kind of games that translate well in playoff competition unless they are coming off the bench for the majority of their minutes. in the playoffs the value of gallinari is his ability to get to the line, slowing the game down against teams like the warriors. he also makes better decisions with the ball than chandler and brewer. chandler is a bit too shot-happy compared to gallinari, which also drives down his value in the playoffs.

is gallinari good looking? i had not noticed but thanks for pointing that out

I do understand to some extent why posters here have a bone to pick for those who champion Gallo. Yeah the Nuggets missed Gallo's presence this playoffs but ultimately Denver lost because of their lack of defending GSW's back court and unless you truly feel Gallo could have done that whether individually or through team defense, you're fooling yourself.


Here's what's more intriguing IMO which is why I can't stand when too many concessions are made for Gallo. If you look at last yrs playoffs, you know the one in which the Nuggets played the Lakers in the first round you'll notice Chandler didn't play 1 game. Barely heard a peep of his absence from the Gallo crowd. You say Gallo's game is built for the playoffs...well look at his numbers in that series and you'll see they weren't any better than Chandler's against GSW.


Numbers don't lie...matter of fact Gallo had 2 completely dud performances


http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/den/year/2012/denver-nuggets Series vs Lakers check each Box Score

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3428/year/2012/danilo-gallinari Gallo's numbers that series, pretty terrible to say the least


I think what hurts many posters arguments, is when they let their personal feelings for a player get in the way of making objective posts.


+1
3G4G, rapidly moving up the UK rationality meter.

Waits to see someone applaud this post.

Probably more applicable to those who champion Melo as his tenure of failure is much greater than Gallo's. Once again Gallo is not a bad player but fans here continue to inaccurately assess players no matter who they are. Even Lebron is inaccurately assessed at times.

Gallinari may return in december. Says on facebook his acl wasn't torn

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