Bonn1997 wrote:Wouldn't it be simpler just to create a "gotta get a new roster" thread?

I knew someone would say something like this No I think we really only have a few spots that are glaring for a specific role. Our PG's are too slow and limited and we really don't have a SG off the bench that can move and catch and shoot but also defend. I'm really thinking about depth more so than anything. We could've used a pure SG that could knock down a shot in the playoffs.

As for Anubis comment about not being able to put the ball on the floor I think that's why I was looking for a PG that can do that. It's not necessary for your SG to do that all the time. Just look at an H2O that mostly did catch and shoot and Post up Turn around jumpers. You run a SG off screens like Reggie, Rip or Allen and you really don't have to have him going ISO to get his shot off. Let the defender get tired chasing your SG all night and that distraction also works to weaken a defense, cuz it's not set and they have to switch a lot. ISO SG play allows the defense to remain set and give help much easier. That's what JR does and it's OK in the regular season but easier to stop in the post season.

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nixluva wrote:I knew someone would say something like this No I think we really only have a few spots that are glaring for a specific role. Our PG's are too slow and limited and we really don't have a SG off the bench that can move and catch and shoot but also defend. I'm really thinking about depth more so than anything. We could've used a pure SG that could knock down a shot in the playoffs.

As for Anubis comment about not being able to put the ball on the floor I think that's why I was looking for a PG that can do that. It's not necessary for your SG to do that all the time. Just look at an H2O that mostly did catch and shoot and Post up Turn around jumpers. You run a SG off screens like Reggie, Rip or Allen and you really don't have to have him going ISO to get his shot off. Let the defender get tired chasing your SG all night and that distraction also works to weaken a defense, cuz it's not set and they have to switch a lot. ISO SG play allows the defense to remain set and give help much easier. That's what JR does and it's OK in the regular season but easier to stop in the post season.

We are drafting at 24 in a weak draft. Reggie, Rip, and Allen can handle the ball.

Ricky Ledo would be a better option if that is the type of guard you are looking for that might be available at 24 because he didn't play all year.

I agree with Nix on this one. I think Crabbe has better handles than Bullock but both have enough handles to escape dribble to get to a better shot or penetrate to the rim. Also, just because it is a weakness it does not mean it will stay one. Its about team construction and this team need catch and shoot players. To many times players missed wide open shots after someone penetrated and dish. Kidd, Brewer, White, Felton, Smith, and Prigs shot well but also passed up many shots. Also, there were many times where we needed a bucket but Novak was guarded by a smaller player who could run with him since he is not a fast guy or works well coming off multiple screens. Th knicks need someone who can move without the ball and create a little motion in the offense so it won't look so stagnant.

AnubisADL wrote:Those 2 guys.... yuck

Biggest weakness for both of them is lack of ball handling ability. A SG in the NBA who cant penetrate is a bench player at best. It's like having a guard version of Novak. No Thanks.

A SG version of Novak , I just threw up

yellowboy90 wrote:I agree with Nix on this one. I think Crabbe has better handles than Bullock but both have enough handles to escape dribble to get to a better shot or penetrate to the rim. Also, just because it is a weakness it does not mean it will stay one. Its about team construction and this team need catch and shoot players. To many times players missed wide open shots after someone penetrated and dish. Kidd, Brewer, White, Felton, Smith, and Prigs shot well but also passed up many shots. Also, there were many times where we needed a bucket but Novak was guarded by a smaller player who could run with him since he is not a fast guy or works well coming off multiple screens. Th knicks need someone who can move without the ball and create a little motion in the offense so it won't look so stagnant.

These are seniors with major holes. Seniors get overhyped all the time. Those 2 guys are going to be role players at best.

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yellowboy90 wrote:I agree with Nix on this one. I think Crabbe has better handles than Bullock but both have enough handles to escape dribble to get to a better shot or penetrate to the rim. Also, just because it is a weakness it does not mean it will stay one. Its about team construction and this team need catch and shoot players. To many times players missed wide open shots after someone penetrated and dish. Kidd, Brewer, White, Felton, Smith, and Prigs shot well but also passed up many shots. Also, there were many times where we needed a bucket but Novak was guarded by a smaller player who could run with him since he is not a fast guy or works well coming off multiple screens. Th knicks need someone who can move without the ball and create a little motion in the offense so it won't look so stagnant.

These are seniors with major holes. Seniors get overhyped all the time. Those 2 guys are going to be role players at best.

well they are juniors and the ability to play off the ball is a huge plus not every scorer can play without the ball in their hands. Also, the difference between Novak and them would be their potential to contribute on defense too. If Novak played D or grab rebounds he would see the floor because he creates spacing. Throw in the fact that these two guys can run off of screens and not just simple flare screens or pin downs and you open up more possibilities.

Jmpasq wrote:I think Shumpert and JR are good enough at SG for 48 minutes. U need forwards that can compliment Melo #1 , a PG that can defend quicker PG's and penetrate. A Back up Center. I would say in that order. There are some decent big men in this draft I think they could get a pretty good back up Center where they are,

NO NO NO they are not! We need a pure shooting guard who can create his on shots and defend. We also need a power foward who can handle the ball and shoot a 20 footer and score and rebound under the bucket like a Tim Duncan.