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Fight FIRE with FIRE - The Knicks' answer to Paul George: Tony Mitchell
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Caseloads
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6/5/2013  1:31 AM
http://nbadraft.net/players/tony-mitchell

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2013/05/2013_nba_draft_tony_mitchell_brings_max_effort_to.html

Weird. I watched his videos and I thought, wow, this guy is a better Paul George. Then I looked around the internets and saw other people are saying he's the next Paul George also!

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/26/4364818/tony-mitchell-paul-george-nba-draft-2013-pacers

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6/5/2013  1:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/5/2013  1:52 AM
Caseloads wrote:http://nbadraft.net/players/tony-mitchell

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2013/05/2013_nba_draft_tony_mitchell_brings_max_effort_to.html

Weird. I watched his videos and I thought, wow, this guy is a better Paul George. Then I looked around the internets and saw other people are saying he's the next Paul George also!

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/5/26/4364818/tony-mitchell-paul-george-nba-draft-2013-pacers

I dont think he is a Paul George type. George is a really good ballhandler for his size and build. This guy is more of a poor mans Kenyon Martin. Hes got a strong build and high level athletic ability with some skills what position does he play? I dont see NBA 3 here?

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6/5/2013  1:48 AM
unless George grows offensively you really don't have to match up with him. If it's not Wolters I'd go after Allen Crabbe.

I doubt Mitchell is there at 24.

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6/5/2013  2:14 AM
Just to kind of show the point--watch Paul George--he controls his game with his dribble and agility. I don't see one tape where Tony Mitchell is anything like Paul george he never even handles the ball. Can Mitchell be a Kenyon Martin type--hes got the build and athletic ability--but Kenyon is also a mental warrior. Hes an upside player because simply there are few people on this planet who are 6-8 240 and can do a 40 inch vertical.

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6/5/2013  2:48 AM
p george has a great jumper, fast release
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6/5/2013  5:25 AM
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6/5/2013  5:38 AM
To me Paul George and Chandler Parsons compare really well. There like two sides to the same coin. I though Parsons played decent D his first year but regressed this year. However his improvements on offense were great. Paul is a good to great defender but his offensive shooting regressed but his assist and turnovers increased. Neither one of them has that killer instinct locked down yet but at times they do flash a high level of competitiveness.

I wonder how their athletic numbers compare? Physically Chandler is actually taller and bigger but George is longer.

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6/5/2013  10:13 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/5/2013  10:25 AM
[YouTube]http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Giannis-Adetokunbo-7223/[/YouTube]


Hey Caseloads--the two guys in this draft who have Paul George type abilities--just imho--are Otto Porter and the Greek 18 year old Giannis Adetokunbo. While these tapes are grainy--you can see his ballhandling skills with his size. He plays like a 3 but has very unique ballhandling skills for his size(reported at 6-9) with a nice looking jumpshot combo with passing rebounding and defensive abilities. I almost never say anything about foreign players for the most part I like to see a guy play on TV more than once but this --if I had a pick for upside--now considering he is 18--this would be my only choice in this particular draft. Taking him knowingb that he may not even play for me next year(he might--hard to say) but this player has NBA upside--I think that is evident---I also think he has no chance whatsoever to last to 24 so I havent said much of a peep about him. Ive seen that PG shroeders tappes and this guy is much more up my own personal alley--to me this should be the number 1 foreign prospect--maybe not ready prospect but in terms of what we can see on tape---this guy has a LOT of tools that you just dont see the average player have. You must make the determination about his age--someone already has--and I will suggest that he will go top 18 or so. watch hes the primary ballhandler in many of these clips--thats pretty impressive at his size considering he has that agility you need with it. His body looks upright and weak /slouches.

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6/5/2013  10:28 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:To me Paul George and Chandler Parsons compare really well. There like two sides to the same coin. I though Parsons played decent D his first year but regressed this year. However his improvements on offense were great. Paul is a good to great defender but his offensive shooting regressed but his assist and turnovers increased. Neither one of them has that killer instinct locked down yet but at times they do flash a high level of competitiveness.

I wonder how their athletic numbers compare? Physically Chandler is actually taller and bigger but George is longer.

Great comparison. 2 extremely skilled SFs that can do it all.

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6/5/2013  10:45 AM
BRIGGS wrote:[YouTube]http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Giannis-Adetokunbo-7223/[/YouTube]


Hey Caseloads--the two guys in this draft who have Paul George type abilities--just imho--are Otto Porter and the Greek 18 year old Giannis Adetokunbo. While these tapes are grainy--you can see his ballhandling skills with his size. He plays like a 3 but has very unique ballhandling skills for his size(reported at 6-9) with a nice looking jumpshot combo with passing rebounding and defensive abilities. I almost never say anything about foreign players for the most part I like to see a guy play on TV more than once but this --if I had a pick for upside--now considering he is 18--this would be my only choice in this particular draft. Taking him knowingb that he may not even play for me next year(he might--hard to say) but this player has NBA upside--I think that is evident---I also think he has no chance whatsoever to last to 24 so I havent said much of a peep about him. Ive seen that PG shroeders tappes and this guy is much more up my own personal alley--to me this should be the number 1 foreign prospect--maybe not ready prospect but in terms of what we can see on tape---this guy has a LOT of tools that you just dont see the average player have. You must make the determination about his age--someone already has--and I will suggest that he will go top 18 or so.


I agree, I have been big on Adetokunbo's potential since I first saw him and with physical abilities at his age
I know he is raw, young, and will need a couple years to fill out his body but he is still growing
He has huge hands, to go with his length, athleticism, versatility, and all round skills


I think he is a top 5 pick if enters the draft 3 years later that due to his physical abilities, potential, size and versatility that goes with his size, he has a great handle, and any team could use what he can especially for his DEFENSE


Now if we can team up Iman Shumpert with Adetokunkbo for our future, it would be really bright, especially if Iman returns back to his lock down defense potential at the PG/SG positions. We all know Iman has the work ethic and will greatly improve in the next 2 years as this year was really just a recovery period for him
They both would be the initiator's on DEF while both can play off each other abilities and passing lanes as covering much ground in aggressive abilities on DEF
It would greatly improve our TEAM DEFENSE and would be our foundation moving forward


Now at pick 24, he is worth the gamble as we need a legit SF/PF that has good all round skills
If he even falls to us at 24, I don't think there are many players I would take over him because of his upside
Considering that 3 Adetokunkbo's weakness's are his


1- SHOT *which we have a great shooting coach in Hopla for while he has a decent form to begin with*
2- the other is his weight as need's to fill out while not losing his mobility/athleticism
3- Considering we are built to *WIN/COMPETE NOW* but he most likely will not be able to come in and contribute right away

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6/5/2013  10:47 AM
Totally agree about Tony Mitchel and Kenyon Martin's comparisons while Martin's 4 years on college/fundamentals/heart were never questioned but I cannot say the same about Mitchel
He does have the upside of Martin without the knee injuries but I also question his IQ, Moter, fundamentals, heart, and IQ
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6/5/2013  10:52 AM
Isn't the idea to get Amare at the 4, and Melo back at the three?
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6/5/2013  1:58 PM
Nalod wrote:Isn't the idea to get Amare at the 4, and Melo back at the three?

Amare likely will not be back at the 4 as a starter. Melo is great as a 4, from an offensive standpoint.
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6/5/2013  1:59 PM
RonRon wrote:Totally agree about Tony Mitchel and Kenyon Martin's comparisons while Martin's 4 years on college/fundamentals/heart were never questioned but I cannot say the same about Mitchel
He does have the upside of Martin without the knee injuries but I also question his IQ, Moter, fundamentals, heart, and IQ

Tony has more ball handling skills than Kenyon, less than Paul George.

Tony's game is all athleticism, which is not great, because once you lose that as a high flyer, there's not much left.

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BRIGGS wrote:[YouTube]http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Giannis-Adetokunbo-7223/[/YouTube]


Hey Caseloads--the two guys in this draft who have Paul George type abilities--just imho--are Otto Porter and the Greek 18 year old Giannis Adetokunbo. While these tapes are grainy--you can see his ballhandling skills with his size. He plays like a 3 but has very unique ballhandling skills for his size(reported at 6-9) with a nice looking jumpshot combo with passing rebounding and defensive abilities. I almost never say anything about foreign players for the most part I like to see a guy play on TV more than once but this --if I had a pick for upside--now considering he is 18--this would be my only choice in this particular draft. Taking him knowingb that he may not even play for me next year(he might--hard to say) but this player has NBA upside--I think that is evident---I also think he has no chance whatsoever to last to 24 so I havent said much of a peep about him. Ive seen that PG shroeders tappes and this guy is much more up my own personal alley--to me this should be the number 1 foreign prospect--maybe not ready prospect but in terms of what we can see on tape---this guy has a LOT of tools that you just dont see the average player have. You must make the determination about his age--someone already has--and I will suggest that he will go top 18 or so. watch hes the primary ballhandler in many of these clips--thats pretty impressive at his size considering he has that agility you need with it. His body looks upright and weak /slouches.


Giannis Adetokunbo has a promise. Celtics I think. If he goes to the Spurs... whoa.

There are a lot of promises in this draft supposedly.

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6/5/2013  3:11 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Just to kind of show the point--watch Paul George--he controls his game with his dribble and agility. I don't see one tape where Tony Mitchell is anything like Paul george he never even handles the ball. Can Mitchell be a Kenyon Martin type--hes got the build and athletic ability--but Kenyon is also a mental warrior. Hes an upside player because simply there are few people on this planet who are 6-8 240 and can do a 40 inch vertical.

paul george is only scratching the surface.. dude is nasty

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6/5/2013  3:15 PM
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yellowboy90 wrote:To me Paul George and Chandler Parsons compare really well. There like two sides to the same coin. I though Parsons played decent D his first year but regressed this year. However his improvements on offense were great. Paul is a good to great defender but his offensive shooting regressed but his assist and turnovers increased. Neither one of them has that killer instinct locked down yet but at times they do flash a high level of competitiveness.

I wonder how their athletic numbers compare? Physically Chandler is actually taller and bigger but George is longer.

Great comparison. 2 extremely skilled SFs that can do it all.

I like parsons, but george is more complete... stronger in every area except shooting...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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6/5/2013  4:25 PM
While going thru the NBADraft.net site, I ran across the player to solve many of the Knick problems. I'm totally fascinated by that 7'2' Euro center, Rudy Gobert. His size, motor and skill level will clear up a lot of ills that we currently suffer from. If there's a way to move up a few spots, I think it would be a wise investment. http://nbadraft.net/players/rudy-gobert.
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