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Caseloads
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6/1/2013  1:13 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/227947/Raptors-Will-Attempt-To-Trade-Bargnani-By-July-1

if he gets amnestied, we can pick him up for the minimum. who'd be in?

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6/1/2013  1:15 PM
I would trade Novak, camby, and white/qrich for him.
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6/1/2013  1:15 PM
Caseloads wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/227947/Raptors-Will-Attempt-To-Trade-Bargnani-By-July-1

if he gets amnestied, we can pick him up for the minimum. who'd be in?

i'm in!!!!

this guy crashed and burned last season, pretty sad to watch actually,

he's at rock bottom value, we can pick him up and nourish him to health,

he can drop buckets for you if you do not pressure him to live up to number 1 pick billing,

he's a #3 option that can go off for 30 points on any given night,

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET THIS GUY IN, IF WE CAN GET HIM IN FOR CHEAP, HE'S IS A PIECE TO A CHAMPIONSHIP,

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6/1/2013  1:16 PM
he is is
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6/1/2013  1:18 PM
I doubt he will sign for the min. Give T dot Camby and Novak for Barg and a 2nd rd pick
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6/1/2013  1:21 PM
Doubt he'd clear the amnesty waiver- a lotto team would be crazy not to put in a small bid for him, as disappointing as he is.
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6/1/2013  1:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2013  1:43 PM
Knicks need to trade for him.

Knicks get a PF so we can slide Melo back to SF.

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6/1/2013  1:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2013  1:40 PM
smackeddog wrote:Agreed, people here tend to forget the amnesty process and how it works
Doubt he'd clear the amnesty waiver- a lotto team would be crazy not to put in a small bid for him, as disappointing as he is.

only teams UNDER the salary cap can do closed bids for an amnestied player
Chances are he will at least get the minimum if not, slightly higher

We cannot sign him unless he clears waivers and probably only the vet min, making it closer to 0% than him being a Knick till his contract expires

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6/1/2013  1:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2013  1:43 PM
I am pretty sure Toronto is looking at preferably a deal that can give them a trade exemption, unguaranteed deals, and/or 1year rentals or at least an expiring like bringing Kris Humphries back to Toronto
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6/1/2013  1:42 PM
Thanks ronron for clearng that up
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/1/2013  1:44 PM
RonRon wrote:I am pretty sure they are looking at preferably a deal that can give them a trade exemption or at least an expiring like bringing Kris Humphries back to Toronto

Im pretty sure they take anything in return. The guy is useless and is coming off a terrible season. He needs a change of scenery.

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6/1/2013  2:21 PM
I'm sure Toronto doesn't really care too much what they receive back but why would they agree to take back two useless players on longer term deals when they can either amnesty him or wait for him to expire after next season?
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6/1/2013  2:49 PM
RonRon wrote:I am pretty sure Toronto is looking at preferably a deal that can give them a trade exemption, unguaranteed deals, and/or 1year rentals or at least an expiring like bringing Kris Humphries back to Toronto

Yep....and if they don't they'll Amnesty him.

Every Player who has been Amnestied could have been traded but weren't....Any smart person can reason why that's the case

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6/1/2013  2:57 PM
Novak is not useless he just becomes useless when you have Copeland. To a team with no shooters he is a high commodity. Also, they like to create offense through isolation and kick out to the spot up players. They would come out saving around 7-8 million dollars when they cut Camby after next year. Bargs salary increases while Novak's can Camby's salaries decreases. That's one reason not to try to get Bargs in a trade.
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6/1/2013  3:07 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Novak is not useless he just becomes useless when you have Copeland. To a team with no shooters he is a high commodity. Also, they like to create offense through isolation and kick out to the spot up players. They would come out saving around 7-8 million dollars when they cut Camby after next year. Bargs salary increases while Novak's can Camby's salaries decreases. That's one reason not to try to get Bargs in a trade.

Bargnani expires the same year as Chandler and Amare. We get one year dump Novak for one less year.

Knicks are lacking size and we need Melo back at SF. I Bargnani is a role player at best but he is the best option as a stretch 4 that we can reasonably attain.

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6/1/2013  5:56 PM
if Barg is traded they would have the opportunity to use the amnesty on Kleiza which is another reason to get anything back for Bargs.
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6/1/2013  6:27 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:if Barg is traded they would have the opportunity to use the amnesty on Kleiza which is another reason to get anything back for Bargs.

I'd take Linus and Barganai off their hands. The both expire along with Amare and Chandler.

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6/1/2013  8:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/2/2013  11:10 AM
For my money, these 3 "value" frontcourt players could really help us out the most out of anyone who may be available in our price range. We could add these 3 for next to nothing -- I believe these guys address everything we're currently lacking up front:

Marcus Cousin - 7' 255. Immediately adds quality/skill at the 4/5 spots. Rebounds, runs the floor, athletic and strong enough, very effective post up game and possesses a deadly mid-range jumper. LOVE EVERYTHING about his game--every aspect screams quality to me. I understand he's never proven anything yet at the NBA level and that scares people but everyone needs to start somewhere...Everything you could possibly want in a backup center. For my money, he's 5X the player Tyson Chandler is right now but that's OK -- start small and let him prove it. I'm content if the Knicks could just bring him in for SL then go from there. He'd open eyes everyday and prove to the Knicks what I've seen going back 3-4 years: a QUALITY overall big man skillset. This guy ABSOLUTELY helps us compete much better against bigger teams like Indiana. No question about it -- tremendous combination of power and finesse. I could watch him fight for offensive rebounds and shoot jumpers all day. Woody would love this guy -- his game really does harken Al Horford in a lot of ways, a guy Woody had in ATL.



Craig Brackins - 6'10" 230. Immediately addresses frontcourt scoring. Would give us another potent frontcourt scorer to help take the load off Melo. Respectful to some opinions on the board, I just don't see this guy as some aloof player that just hangs out on the perimeter -- not at all. That's Steve Novak's game. This guy's nothing like Novak at all.. His sophomore year at Iowa St., he went 243-512 from the floor (47.5%), yet only attempted 74 3s...Same year he averaged 9.5 rebounds a game AND he also went to the line 200 times --- this all proves he's much more than some 3-pt gunslinger. That year he went for 42 pts against a quality Kansas Jayhawk squad that featured both Morris brothers and Cole Aldrich in the middle...He's a scorer deluxe and I firmly believe this ability to score the ball will definitely translate to the NBA as soon as he gets his shot. He's got enough offensive skill to score the ball on anyone from anywhere in the halfcourt set--effective post up game, puts it on the floor well for a guy 6'10" and has a nice jumper all the way out to the 3 pt line. Melo's 100% right -- we need more scoring. This guy addresses that need in a big way and for the small $$ amount it would take to sign him, it's an absolute no-brainer. Forget trading anything for Andrea Bargnani -- I'd prefer this guy to fill our frontcourt scoring need instead. The thing with Bargnani, he's got the game of a small forward but at his size (7' 250+), there's no choice but to shoehorn him in at the 4 or 5 and hope for the best. At least break even -- hope he can put up some points while also realizing he can't guard opposing bigs at the other end along with poor/insufficient rebounding at that size and position. It'd be a constant give & take...Brackins, meanwhile, slides in comfortably at either forward spot and can guard either spot -- compared to Bargnani at least, he's got much better footspeed & agility to guard 3s and enough size/length/agilty to guard some 4s as well...Brackins is a legit/classic hybrid 3/4; Bargnani is a 3 trapped in a 5's body. I also feel Brackins is the much more effective rebounder between the two...Chandler/Bargnani/Melo just feels so flawed to me. I think Chandler/Brackins/Melo would be much more effective for the most part. With Brackins over Bargnani, I feel we'd have a better chance to take advantage of any mismatch in our favor while keeping any mismatch at the other end in favor of the opposition to more of a minimum... I know some will laugh at the comparison but at that height with that type of ability to score the ball, Brackins really reminds me a lot of Kevin Durant. I also see a young Antoine Walker, only taller/longer/thinner, but with that type of offensive skillset...For the small amount of money it'd take to bring him in here, let's find out how high the potential really is. At the very least, he's a rotation player--something much better than Chris Copeland on both ends of the floor (and don't get me wrong, I like Cope. This dude's the better player by a mile though, all I'm saying).

Jordan Williams - 6'10", 260. Addresses the need for more reserve size and rebounding up front. Almost 12 rebounds a game his sophomore season at Maryland. He's just got that knack. Great nose for the ball. And surprisingly, he's got some decent offensive potential on the interior -- he can post up, shoot it well from mid-range and he's got real soft touch in close around the basket. I can't find any information about him playing anywhere last year though and that's a little worrisome. Conditioning has always been a concern and off the idle year, I just hope he's kept himself in shape. Another guy that would help us compete much better against a team like Indiana with their frontline.

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