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Bill Simmons Feb 2011 (Re: Amare)
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callmened
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5/29/2013  7:04 PM
I dug up this article from a few yrs ago. LOL

"Amare Stoudemire

I'd like to introduce a fake character called "Generic NBA Guy Who Knows Things," a distorted compilation of everyone in NBA circles who talks to me off the record. Here's GNGWNT on Amare these past four months:

October: "Amare is gonna have a big year. Huge, huge year. He likes the spotlight. New York will be good for him. He's dumb enough to think he's as big a star as LeBron or Wade. You need that attitude to succeed in New York."

November: "I told you!"

December: "D'Antoni is running Amare into the ground. His knees won't hold up. You don't write about coaches putting themselves above their players nearly enough, Simmons. D'Antoni is coaching for his next job; he doesn't care about Amare's availability in 2014. Did you see the Detroit game? Amare played 54 minutes in double-OT, then averaged 41 the next 10 games. And when his knees go, everyone will blame Dolan and Donnie for spending too much money on him."

January: "You see Amare's numbers this month? D'Antoni finally cut his minutes but it was too late -- his game went in the tank; 45 percent shooting? He hasn't been under 50 percent for an entire month since he was in junior high.

February: "I feel bad for Carmelo. He killed his legacy in Denver to get to the Knicks, and by the time he gets there, Amare will be cheering him on in $5,000 suits every night while D'Antoni is working for you guys on Friday nights arguing with Jon Barry. Mark my words, the MVP of the 2013 Knicks is going to be either Mozgov or Amare's tailor."

(And that concludes this week's episode of "Turd In The Knicks Fan Punch Bowl!" Don't blame me, blame Mike D'Antoni -- the guy who apparently forgot that Stoudemire's knees are so bad that the Knicks couldn't get his contract insured, then played him 576 minutes in 14 games over a four-week span. He hasn't been quite the same since. It's true.)"

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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5/29/2013  7:45 PM
callmened wrote:I dug up this article from a few yrs ago. LOL

"Amare Stoudemire

I'd like to introduce a fake character called "Generic NBA Guy Who Knows Things," a distorted compilation of everyone in NBA circles who talks to me off the record. Here's GNGWNT on Amare these past four months:

October: "Amare is gonna have a big year. Huge, huge year. He likes the spotlight. New York will be good for him. He's dumb enough to think he's as big a star as LeBron or Wade. You need that attitude to succeed in New York."

November: "I told you!"

December: "D'Antoni is running Amare into the ground. His knees won't hold up. You don't write about coaches putting themselves above their players nearly enough, Simmons. D'Antoni is coaching for his next job; he doesn't care about Amare's availability in 2014. Did you see the Detroit game? Amare played 54 minutes in double-OT, then averaged 41 the next 10 games. And when his knees go, everyone will blame Dolan and Donnie for spending too much money on him."

January: "You see Amare's numbers this month? D'Antoni finally cut his minutes but it was too late -- his game went in the tank; 45 percent shooting? He hasn't been under 50 percent for an entire month since he was in junior high.

February: "I feel bad for Carmelo. He killed his legacy in Denver to get to the Knicks, and by the time he gets there, Amare will be cheering him on in $5,000 suits every night while D'Antoni is working for you guys on Friday nights arguing with Jon Barry. Mark my words, the MVP of the 2013 Knicks is going to be either Mozgov or Amare's tailor."

(And that concludes this week's episode of "Turd In The Knicks Fan Punch Bowl!" Don't blame me, blame Mike D'Antoni -- the guy who apparently forgot that Stoudemire's knees are so bad that the Knicks couldn't get his contract insured, then played him 576 minutes in 14 games over a four-week span. He hasn't been quite the same since. It's true.)"

Great points based on reality and real events.
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5/29/2013  8:05 PM
Thanks for nothing, Donnie Walsh.
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5/29/2013  8:11 PM
knickscity wrote:Thanks for nothing, Donnie Walsh.

Hey! That man traded away Jerome James. Hes a saint in my eyes
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5/29/2013  8:20 PM
callmened wrote:I dug up this article from a few yrs ago. LOL

"Amare Stoudemire

I'd like to introduce a fake character called "Generic NBA Guy Who Knows Things," a distorted compilation of everyone in NBA circles who talks to me off the record. Here's GNGWNT on Amare these past four months:

October: "Amare is gonna have a big year. Huge, huge year. He likes the spotlight. New York will be good for him. He's dumb enough to think he's as big a star as LeBron or Wade. You need that attitude to succeed in New York."

November: "I told you!"

December: "D'Antoni is running Amare into the ground. His knees won't hold up. You don't write about coaches putting themselves above their players nearly enough, Simmons. D'Antoni is coaching for his next job; he doesn't care about Amare's availability in 2014. Did you see the Detroit game? Amare played 54 minutes in double-OT, then averaged 41 the next 10 games. And when his knees go, everyone will blame Dolan and Donnie for spending too much money on him."

January: "You see Amare's numbers this month? D'Antoni finally cut his minutes but it was too late -- his game went in the tank; 45 percent shooting? He hasn't been under 50 percent for an entire month since he was in junior high.

February: "I feel bad for Carmelo. He killed his legacy in Denver to get to the Knicks, and by the time he gets there, Amare will be cheering him on in $5,000 suits every night while D'Antoni is working for you guys on Friday nights arguing with Jon Barry. Mark my words, the MVP of the 2013 Knicks is going to be either Mozgov or Amare's tailor."

(And that concludes this week's episode of "Turd In The Knicks Fan Punch Bowl!" Don't blame me, blame Mike D'Antoni -- the guy who apparently forgot that Stoudemire's knees are so bad that the Knicks couldn't get his contract insured, then played him 576 minutes in 14 games over a four-week span. He hasn't been quite the same since. It's true.)"

WOW!!

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5/29/2013  9:53 PM
Sadly, we all knew D'Antoni was running him into the ground for that first round sweep. Memories
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5/29/2013  10:04 PM
Ran Kobe into the ground too.
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5/29/2013  10:07 PM
matt wrote:Sadly, we all knew D'Antoni was running him into the ground for that first round sweep. Memories

Many on this site were highlighting this while it was happening. It wasn't surprising at all.

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5/29/2013  10:18 PM
Vmart wrote:Ran Kobe into the ground too.

Imagine what he would have done to Nash if he wasnt already hurting
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5/30/2013  1:40 AM
That's one view. I agree with D'Antoni playing guys too many minutes, specifically Amar'e and Felton. That was his biggest flaw when he was here. We had a good bench, but MDA didn't rely on them enough in trying to squeeze out every possible win. But that being said, I think Amar'e would've broken down anyway, and there are reports to say that. Whatever the reason, it's very disappointing overall.
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5/30/2013  1:45 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/30/2013  1:45 AM
I was tempted to bump a thread from 2009 when I saw a fancy car double-parked in front of the White Castle on 8th Ave near the Garden, and someone told me they saw LeBron James in there. But when I went inside to verify, it was Amar'e, I was disappointed and walked out. It seemed like a prescient metaphor for the eventual "Decision" at the time.
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5/30/2013  2:21 AM
well he played kobe like a million minutes down the stretch and look what happen to him

what about lin..

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5/30/2013  8:27 AM
Maybe we ran down Melo this season also?

Isn't that what max players do? get paid to play and carry a team? Isn't that why the guys who prepare off season better and are professional get the big bucks?

Its MDA's fault?

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5/30/2013  8:38 AM
Nalod wrote:Maybe we ran down Melo this season also?

Isn't that what max players do? get paid to play and carry a team? Isn't that why the guys who prepare off season better and are professional get the big bucks?

Its MDA's fault?


I agree with you. If a team is highly dependent on a player, that coach is going to play him a lot - his job depends on it. If we had played Amare fewer minutes, his knees were slightly healthier, and the team went closer to 38-44, no one would be praising MDA for using Amare's minutes wisely.
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5/30/2013  10:48 AM
Nothing wrong with getting the max out of a max player BUT if youre Max player is injury prone with bad knees...then you have to handle that differently
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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5/30/2013  11:35 AM
callmened wrote:Nothing wrong with getting the max out of a max player BUT if youre Max player is injury prone with bad knees...then you have to handle that differently

Depends on the injury I suppose. Its easy to second guess it.

It was a bad signing but one most of us HOPED would work out.

Bill Simmons Feb 2011 (Re: Amare)

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