IronWillGiroud wrote:it's not even like that,

refs can only give or take a little bit of the fat and what overcomes this giving and taking is how much effort and energy you bring to the arena,

if you're half asleep it doesn't matter what the refs do, you're going to play like a bum

I don't know what you mean by that but maybe this team was asleep for 13 years and finally woke up. all I know is this was the best season that I've seen in over 13 or more years. You might want to go back to the old days but I don't and as far as the refs go I think that some are crooked and some have favorite players. They are human and have flaws. I will be the first to say that the Pacers are better than the Knicks. But I will also say watch the Heat and Pacers coming up games and see the Heat get the best calls. The Knicks need to just get better. Amare has all of our money tied up and he will be just another game or two before he gets another injury. Thats the way it is.
If you can't have enjoyed this Knicks season then where have you been the last 13 years?
The refs hurt us this season and the NBA with thier watered down League is designed to block Markets like New York from spending what ever we want to spend for a player. The NBA system sucks. No one on the team can say a bad thing about the league without being fined. Refs can change a game and they can decide who win or loose by the way they call the game.

yellowboy90 wrote:does attacking the rims get you more fouls?

Yes

do fouls not occur on jump shots, reach ins, and etc

Hibberts hand was not inside the rim when he initially made contact with the ball

When you go to the basketball dictionary and look up Blocked Shot you're going to find 1 of 2 plays captured. It's either TayShaun Prince's block on Reggie Miller or Roy Hibbert's on Melo.

Pure definition of what a block is

So in essence this thread was created to blame the refs again for us losing the series

I do recall many moons ago that when someone told the whole fan base and media what he felt about blocks, many agreed with him. Many said shots simply need to be altered not necessarily blocked. There were some who were so frustrated with the team he was coaching, because defensively they were so horrible on the interior to protect the paint and block shots....No big deal for many though...

I BET THE MASSES FEEL COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOW ABOUT BLOCKED SHOTS BEING OVERRATED AND WE CAN TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK

Bonn1997 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

has 79 fta and 60 rim attempts in playoffs thus far (1.3 ratio).

had 127 fta to 36 rim attempts (3.5).

66 fta, 35 rim (1.88).

name that player.

I assume Melo's the one with the lowest ratio.
You can see a pretty fair analysis here: http://hoopchalk.com/2013/05/06/knicks-pacers-game-1-was-carmelo-anthony-the-victim-of-uncalled-fouls/
Although occasionally the refs missed a call for Melo, usually Hibbert was just going straight up and then actually backwards when Melo jumped into him.

Going straight up and coming down with your arms should still be a foul and that's just analysis of one game. More rim attacks more fouls you said. Just saying that is not always the case.

smackeddog wrote:Ref's do influence the way teams play and it's ridiculous that there's a lack of consistency even within games. Why are some players and teams allowed to play differently than the rest of the league? I have no idea who will win the Pacers/Heat series, because I have no idea how the ref's are going to call it (will Hibbert still be allowed to 'go straight up'? Will Lebron be given FTs if they try getting physical?). Sad that it's come to this.

Remember this thread?

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=44295

Remember when I said this......

3G4G wrote:As far as Action Jackson goes I don't want to hear no complaining from you should we meet them in the playoffs and he gets every call. Stay quiet as a mouse.

Replace Lebron with the Pacers/Celtics or whatever team faces Lebron yada yada....it was applicable

TeamBall wrote:

smackeddog wrote:Ref's do influence the way teams play and it's ridiculous that there's a lack of consistency even within games. Why are some players and teams allowed to play differently than the rest of the league? I have no idea who will win the Pacers/Heat series, because I have no idea how the ref's are going to call it (will Hibbert still be allowed to 'go straight up'? Will Lebron be given FTs if they try getting physical?). Sad that it's come to this.

If he does try to go up the same way, it'll be interesting to hear the explanation for why those are suddenly fouls.

I think Lebron takes a lot of hits at the rim but I do think they call a lot of reach ins for him in the post or in iso.

3G4G wrote:

Come on 3G- can you honestly not see Hibbert kneeing Melo in the balls with an out stretched leg while he 'goes straight up'?