I agree that Martin played better than what the stats may or may not suggest. I'm just saying it's not going to work out so well in Indy.

Dagger wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:stop picking in Tyson. he is so unappreciated.

He sucks, it's not picking on him. When he steps up, IF he steps up I will acknowledge it. Right now he is a NON-FACTOR.

Jared Jeffries sucks.
Tyson Chandler does not suck. He may not be Shaquille O'Neal, but he's, at worst, an average center. And I'd say better.

Allanfan20 wrote:It is inexcusable that Melo, Smith and Shumpert are the only ones that grabbed more than 5 boards and also more than 5 rebounds. I'm glad those 3 crashed the boards but Tyson HAS to do a better job establishing himself and so does Martin. We aren't going to beat the Pacers in Indy if we go on like that.

not really, our bigs block out, our guards grab the rebounds. pacers are such a big team that our bigs cant do both effectively against them and not foul out.

Panos wrote:

Dagger wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:stop picking in Tyson. he is so unappreciated.

He sucks, it's not picking on him. When he steps up, IF he steps up I will acknowledge it. Right now he is a NON-FACTOR.

Jared Jeffries sucks.
Tyson Chandler does not suck. He may not be Shaquille O'Neal, but he's, at worst, an average center. And I'd say better.

How much does the average NBA player make? 5 million? Chandler makes 14. I know that at the end of the day it's about what you contribute to the team despite the salary, but the effects of that extra 9 million he is STEALING from us are surely felt.We already have Messiah 'Mare taking 20 mil out, we don't need this phony helping him. Essentially, what I dislike about Chandler is that he lives off his reputation, now more than ever. He does not bring it night in and night out, and the fact that he has no offensive game whatsoever irritates me to the bone. I know I've made this comparison too many times, but when you watch the shots Kenyon Martin takes (and usually makes) on offense you're telling me you don't wonder why tyson (6 years younger younger and in his prime)can't make the lay-ups, hook shots, and 10 foot jumpers Kmart makes? The fact that he's gotten this far without developing any of these skills says something about him, either the talent isn't there or the commitment isn't there, either way it's not too rosy. You're not part of any "Big 3" when you're a defensive player with no offensive game, no passing skills, no dribble skills, inconsistent effort,proclivity to avoid contact, and a WEAK immune system.

playa2 wrote:If Tyson is still hurt (Neck) this thread doesn't make sense.

I think he is. I don't think his neck is right.

VDesai wrote:I think Amare will be a difficult matchup for the Pacer frontline.

fishmike wrote:

VDesai wrote:I think Amare will be a difficult matchup for the Pacer frontline.

Agree with this, also that chandler is being badly outplayed by Hibert. Its the worst matchup because hibbert doesnt have to guard Tyson, so he's free to help.

It was said that he is moving like his knee was never a problem. After learning a bit more about the procedure he had, I am more inclined to think this might actually aid his health next season (please, please, please). They didn't go in to do any repair work; they just cleaned out some dead and loose tissue in "both" knees. Its supposed to alleviate possible strain that could result in the future from those particles. Sounds more like preventive maintenance than anything else.

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

VDesai wrote:I think Amare will be a difficult matchup for the Pacer frontline.

Agree with this, also that chandler is being badly outplayed by Hibert. Its the worst matchup because hibbert doesnt have to guard Tyson, so he's free to help.

Ironically TYSON 16 game absence, we went 15 and 1..I can't stand the fact that he can't pull hibert out of the paint