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4/19/2013  7:41 PM
Since health has been one of our biggest topics and we always seem to have news on the subject, why not have a thread specifically dedicated to such news? Hopefully this will be a happy paradise of great news after great news.

Lets kick off with a possibly good one:

IanBegley Ian Begley
Just bumped into Pablo Prigioni. He doesn't seem confident about playing tomorrow but is optimistic about Game 2 on Tuesday. #Knicks

Woodson sounded pessimistic about having Pablo for Game 2, but it would seem like he is progressing well and could be back for the second game of the series. Nice to have a couple of days off between games.


IanBegley Ian Begley
Tyson Chandler reiterates on @ESPNNY98_7FM that his neck is "great" and he will be 100 percent healthy for Game 1. #Knicks

More of a friendly reminder, as we read this yesterday, but since Chandler talked about how his legs loved the rest, its nice to know his neck also seems to feel good. Hopefully we will see DPOY Chandler and not Zombie Chandler.

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4/20/2013  2:47 PM
Prigioni out, Copeland in for Knicks in Game 1

NEW YORK (AP) -- The New York Knicks were without starting guard Pablo Prigioni in their playoff opener, going with rookie Chris Copeland against the Boston Celtics.

Prigioni sprained his right ankle Wednesday in the regular-season finale. Coach Mike Woodson says Saturday that Prigioni has been running and ''coming along nicely,'' but wanted to give him a few more days off.

The Knicks were 16-2 when Prigioni, a 35-year-old Argentine in his rookie NBA season, was in the starting lineup.

Copeland, also a rookie, closed the season with consecutive 30-point games and was the Eastern Conference rookie of the month for April.

Seems very likely we will have ourselves some Pabloing in Game 2.

Copeland to the starting lineup for Game 1.

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4/21/2013  8:44 AM
When Pablo comes back, I hope woodson makes him come off the bench. With the celtics having a big starting line-up he or felton will be match up with Pierce or Green.

I hope he starts with Kidd, then bring Shumpert and Prigioni of the bench.

Chandler/kmart
Melo
Copeland/smith
Kidd/shumpert
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4/21/2013  11:36 AM
Pablo seems to be set to go for Game 2 and Copeland should feel better after resting his shoulder and taking in all of his first playoffs experience:

Woodson says Prigioni should be ready for Game 2

Knicks coach Mike Woodson said if yesterday had been a Game 7, starting guard Pablo Prigioni likely would have suited up on his balky right ankle in the first-round playoff opener against the Celtics.

Woodson said he believes Prigioni will be ready for Game 2 on Tuesday and for the Knicks, that is a good thing. That’s because Woodson started Chris Copeland at the wing, and he appeared hampered by a recent shoulder surgery and seemed a bit overwhelmed in his playoff debut.

Copeland, recently a scoring beast, was scoreless in 12:46, going 0 for 3 in the Knicks’ 85-78 win.

“He could be a little nervous,’’ Woodson said after Game 1 at the Garden. “I started him and started him in the second half. This is big-time basketball and when you never [have] done it, it can be an eye opener. He will be all right. [We will] watch tape tomorrow and we will get him comfortable.’’

Copeland said he could use the few days to rest his shoulder, which popped out in the regular-season finale. He wore supportive tape on his shoulder and a black T-shirt to cover it.

“Could be better, but no excuses,’’ Copeland said of the sore left shoulder. “Rest will help.’’

Copeland said the playoff atmosphere may have gotten to him. “Everybody told me it was crazy and it was,’’ Copeland said.

Prigioni, 36, was inserted into the starting lineup last month as a second point guard and helped trigger a 13-0 winning streak. Prigioni sprained his ankle in the regular-season finale Wednesday and Raymond Felton lost his backcourt partner.

“I won’t rule [Prigioni’s return] out, he’s coming along nicely,’’ Woodson said. “I feel good. He’s running around. If I had to play him, I probably could play him. But I’m going to give him a few more days to make sure he is ready.’’

Woodson chose Copeland over situational defender James White. Copeland had just won Rookie of the Month for April.

“He’s earned that right,’’ Woodson said. “James White has played well for us when he’s been in too. I’ll go with Chris. He gives me something a little different than James gives from an offensive standpoint.’’

* As many predicted, the Knicks’ bench dominated, outscoring Boston 33-4. ... The eight points allowed in the fourth quarter broke the Knicks’ franchise defensive record of nine vs. the Nets in 1994.

* The last time Knicks won a playoff series was 2000. One month later, the Nets picked Kenyon Martin with the No. 1 overall pick in the NBA Draft over Stromile Swift.

* This is the first Game 1 win in the playoffs for the Knicks since the 2001 first round vs. the Raptors. ... Earl Barron, Marcus Camby and Quentin Richardson did not play.

I doubt Pablo goes back to the bench when he comes back:

unstopaball12

When Pablo comes back, I hope woodson makes him come off the bench. With the celtics having a big starting line-up he or felton will be match up with Pierce or Green.

I hope he starts with Kidd, then bring Shumpert and Prigioni of the bench.

Chandler/kmart
Melo
Copeland/smith
Kidd/shumpert
Felton/Prigioni


Woody likes Kidd coming off the bench. That way he can monitor his minutes and maximize him for this run. But Felton does move to SG.

PG- Prigs
SG- Felton
SF- Shumpert
PF- Melo
C - Chandler

Bring the 13-0 run mojo back to the playoffs and move the ball!

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4/21/2013  1:56 PM
Sunday Report


Nothing wrong with Tyson's health:

Notebook: Chandler's conditioning off

Tyson Chandler wasn't himself in Game 1 on Saturday, but he wasn't worried about it.

"I knew I would be rusty. I knew I would be a little winded. I knew at some point my legs would get the best of me," the starting center said after the game. "I just wanted to be out there with my team."

Chandler had missed 16 of the Knicks' final 20 regular-season games due to a neck ailment and was playing his first game in nearly two weeks on Saturday. Chandler played just six minutes in the second half as Mike Woodson opted to go with Kenyon Martin down the stretch.

Chandler finished with five rebounds and one steal. He did not attempt a shot. Afterward, he said his conditioning affected him, but his neck was pain-free.

"I think more so it's just my conditioning," he said. "I should obviously be much better in Game 2 [on Tuesday]."

Just eat a Snickers Tyson, and be ready to come alive in Game 2. We need DPOY Tyson, not Flu Tyson.

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Not so fast with Prigs for Game 2:

IanBegley Ian Begley
Pablo Prigioni is "still day to day." #Knicks will have a better feel for where he is after Monday's practice, Woodson said.

For the sake of our ball movement, lets hope he can feel better to play Game 2. But we have a long road ahead and if he has to sit out the game to come back at 100%, so be it. Now, what happens when he does?

JaredZwerling Jared Zwerling
When Prigioni returns, Woodson will put Felton on Pierce and Shumpert on Green defensively. #Knicks

We'll get the lineup that was streaking in the last part of the season, as expected.

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So, what about Amar'e?

IanBegley Ian Begley
Woodson says if/when Amar'e returns, he will be back in the rotation. "I'm expecting him to do what he was doing before he left." #Knicks

Of course, you have to play Amar'e if he is healthy to play. But learn from past mistakes, Woody. Let him practice enough with the team so he is part of the ball movement and he doesn't kill that which is one of our best winning cards. He was literally on fire when he came back, but the Knicks didn't play like they were and it hurt us more than help. As a sub for Tyson and K-Mart, Amar'e can be great giving us another scoring punch, but in limited minutes.

Also, make him earn minutes by playing defense. He was more interested about it when he came back, but still had lapses that hurt us. He isn't going to be a defensive stopper, but just trying to defend will be nice on the limited minutes he can give us.

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4/22/2013  5:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/22/2013  5:03 PM
MONDAY REPORT


Prigioni probable to return to the starting lineup for Game 2:

IanBegley Ian Begley
Pablo Prigioni looked good at practice today, according to Mike Woodson. If he feels OK tomorrow, he will start in Game 2. #Knicks

It's looking more and more likely that Pablo will make his playoff debut for Game 2. He has been progressing well according to previous reports and if he feels fine tomorrow, he is good to go.

JaredZwerling Jared Zwerling
Shumpert on Prigioni: "Pablo looked good [today]. It didn't look like he had too much pain." #Knicks

Hope the "too much pain" part isn't based on any grimace Pablo did during practice. I want Prigs back, but considering how important he is to out ball movement, I want him as healthy as possible.

IanBegley Ian Begley
Woody's confident in Ray-Pierce matchup bec Ray guarded him at times in regular season: "He's got to be tough. That's all I can tell you."

New rotation for Game 2, the one we loved and made us winners of 13 straight and 16-1. Felton can handle Pierce.

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Tyson expects improvements for Game 2:

IanBegley Ian Begley
Tyson Chandler said his conditioning has improved. He feels minor stiffness in his neck, which is to be expected, he said. #Knicks

Hopefully the minor stiffness is part of the process, as people here have mentioned that it won't simply go away until he has prolonged rest. Hopefully we get DPOY Tyson for the rest of the playoffs.

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Shump adjusting:

JaredZwerling Jared Zwerling
Shump: "I feel a lot better. I'm definitely not thinking as much; I'm just going out there playing. Everything is way more fluid." #Knicks

Hopefully he backs up these words for Game 2. He has too much talent to be over thinking because its playoffs time. Enjoy the ride and do what you do best.

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4/23/2013  11:04 PM
TUESDAY GAMEDAY REPORT:

Amar’e Stoudemire hopes to return for Knicks in second round

NEW YORK – If Amar’e Stoudemire wants to play again this year, which he does, the Knicks oft-injured forward needs his teammates to perform now more than ever.

Win their opening round series against the Celtics and he has a chance to get back on the court in the second round of the playoffs. Lose and he’s likely resting until next year.

Stoudemire likes the Knicks chances and his own. But neither is there quite yet.

Stoudemire, who is returning from right knee debridement surgery, spoke to reporters before the Knicks played the Celtics in Game 2 of their opening-round series and said he’s currently doing foot work and explosiveness drills.

He’s hoping to run full speed by weeks end and will make a decision on when he can return to the court based on how his knee feels after that.

“Everything’s on schedule for the most part,” Stoudemire said. “I’m not sure exactly when [he’ll return]. But once I start moving around at full speed we’ll check the reaction from that.
“If everything goes great than I’m willing to play, sooner than later hopefully if everything continues to improve, so we’ll see.”

Stoudemire had debris cleaned from his right knee on March 11 and his recovery time was expected to be around six weeks. He had the same procedure on his left knee in November and it took him eight weeks to return.

He’s currently in week six of his latest rehab stint and is taking things slowly.

“I’ve got to continue to get stronger, got to get back on the court, start moving around at full speed,” Stoudemire said. “It’s really precautionary measures, just taking our time and figuring out exactly how it reacts to a hard load or a hard workout. If I can handle that then we go up a notch, that’s great. Then I’m looking for hopefully playing soon.”

Stoudemire needs more time to recover and needs the Knicks to keep winning for that to happen. He sounded optimistic that’s what will happen.


The way we are playing defense, Im not so thrilled about Amar'e coming back. I do want him back and be part of this run. He was the first step we took to get to this level and it would be amazing if he was part of it. But our D needs to keep its intensity so all the pressure on him.

If Woody can find a way to use him off the bench for an offensive push here and there, it would only make us more dangerous.

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4/23/2013  11:17 PM
Amare was going 10/10 every night before he got hurt. If he can get back in the game and have his health, than we'll be something to reckon with.
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4/24/2013  7:48 AM
VDesai wrote:Amare was going 10/10 every night before he got hurt. If he can get back in the game and have his health, than we'll be something to reckon with.

and he was making a greater effort on defense than I have ever seen from him. He'd fully solidify our 2nd unit since we haven't gotten anything from Novak or Cope. I do expect to see Cope produce at some point but, our 2nd unit could REALLY use Amare right now.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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DurzoBlint wrote:
VDesai wrote:Amare was going 10/10 every night before he got hurt. If he can get back in the game and have his health, than we'll be something to reckon with.

and he was making a greater effort on defense than I have ever seen from him. He'd fully solidify our 2nd unit since we haven't gotten anything from Novak or Cope. I do expect to see Cope produce at some point but, our 2nd unit could REALLY use Amare right now.

I really want to emphasize that point.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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4/24/2013  10:32 AM
Amare would probably take most of Copeland's and Novak's minutes if he comes back
I think JR would get even less of the shots now and demoted "mentally" because he loses some of the opportunities when JR is shooting 20-30 shots per game
Lets just hope he "SLOWLY" gets back in the rotation and stays healthy


Copeland's confidence is back low again, Woody will always trust and love his VETS
He played very well at while both Martin and Chandler were out, with the effort on DEF
I know it was one game but he did great vs Roy Hibbert who is much bigger than him
His ability to be the 5th shooter but capable of playing as a top 3 option changes things up

I think Woodson needs to keep him in the rotation, playing the C and PF with Kmart, and build on his confidence, he isn't a real rookie like Pablo
The reason he plays better at C is because he lacks quickness speed, and even some athletic ability
Where as he is a complete mismatch at SF and he is capable of playing PF but a C cannot defend him at all
He gets that advantage on the C while the opponents C's are usually the shot blocker/rebounder/defensive player in which HAS TO COME OUT to defend Copeland
If not he gets a wide open shot, which he is very capable of making
If the opponents C comes out to defend, he has the ability to blow by him with his handle, and could take it to the rim if there is no help there or earn a step/wide open shot for another team mate
So if successful, EVEN if Copeland does not shoot the ball, his presence alone at C would open the lane for JR/Felton and whoever, while it would contain some/most of the help DEF depending on the team/match up


Question: Rate/Compare Copeland's DEF compared to STAT's???

It is nice to have a Amare come in and just get 2 points or get FT's when he was playing at his top shape and got his confidence going
It took him awhile to get back his rhythme, legs, and get the foot work down pack, but once he did he was a great force to have off the bench
His DEF however is not missed at all, cannot forget how he defended John Wall...

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4/24/2013  10:36 AM
We bash our medical staff all the time but we should thank them now. From Shumpert to Melo to Felton to getting Tyson, KMart and Pablo back. I haven't got the slightest idea of how Kidd is feeling but he's playing OK too. It looks like Amar'e is almost ready to go as well.

Yet, there we see Rose on the bench for the Bulls. We should be proud.

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4/24/2013  11:32 AM
I think there's enough minutes out there for Amare where he wouldn't be on the floor with Melo where this works. Having a true 2nd scorer of the bench is huge. Even if all Amare plays is 12-15 minutes per game from now on that would help in these playoffs.
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4/24/2013  11:48 AM
I think its obvious that Stat playing instead of Cope and Novak (talk about bad contracts, 4 million for a guy to stand in the corner?) is a significant upgrade. At the end of the day having a 6 11 athletic dude come off the bench is way better than however you want to describe what Cope/Novak bring to the table.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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4/24/2013  11:52 AM
The Knicks will benefit if Amar'e is featured as a low post option. The days of him being a workhorse are gone. All this stuff has to be put into the context of how it affects the matchup with Miami, and if Amar'e can come in get Miami's bigs to pick up a couple of quick fouls, it is certainly a win for the Knicks. Glad Amar'e had the chance to work with The Dream in the offseason... it's the entire reason he will be able to impact the game in limited minutes
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simrud wrote:I think its obvious that Stat playing instead of Cope and Novak (talk about bad contracts, 4 million for a guy to stand in the corner?) is a significant upgrade. At the end of the day having a 6 11 athletic dude come off the bench is way better than however you want to describe what Cope/Novak bring to the table.

Novaks contract is good for us- it gives us the option of trading for a player who makes $4mil a year. Same with cambys. Without them we'd only really have minimum contracts to trade which makes any deal almost impossible.

I like Camby and Novak, but even if you don't their contracts don't harm us in any way- they actually are good contracts for us to have.

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smackeddog wrote:
simrud wrote:I think its obvious that Stat playing instead of Cope and Novak (talk about bad contracts, 4 million for a guy to stand in the corner?) is a significant upgrade. At the end of the day having a 6 11 athletic dude come off the bench is way better than however you want to describe what Cope/Novak bring to the table.

Novaks contract is good for us- it gives us the option of trading for a player who makes $4mil a year. Same with cambys. Without them we'd only really have minimum contracts to trade which makes any deal almost impossible.

I like Camby and Novak, but even if you don't their contracts don't harm us in any way- they actually are good contracts for us to have.

They are only good contracts to have it their play equates to the $ paid.

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Andrew wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
simrud wrote:I think its obvious that Stat playing instead of Cope and Novak (talk about bad contracts, 4 million for a guy to stand in the corner?) is a significant upgrade. At the end of the day having a 6 11 athletic dude come off the bench is way better than however you want to describe what Cope/Novak bring to the table.

Novaks contract is good for us- it gives us the option of trading for a player who makes $4mil a year. Same with cambys. Without them we'd only really have minimum contracts to trade which makes any deal almost impossible.

I like Camby and Novak, but even if you don't their contracts don't harm us in any way- they actually are good contracts for us to have.

They are only good contracts to have it their play equates to the $ paid.

Before this new cba, I'd agree with you. But under it, it is so difficult to add players once your over the apron, you really need a few $4mil contracts just to make a trade a possibility.

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4/24/2013  2:33 PM
Knicksfan wrote:Since health has been one of our biggest topics and we always seem to have news on the subject, why not have a thread specifically dedicated to such news? Hopefully this will be a happy paradise of great news after great news.

Lets kick off with a possibly good one:

IanBegley Ian Begley
Just bumped into Pablo Prigioni. He doesn't seem confident about playing tomorrow but is optimistic about Game 2 on Tuesday. #Knicks

Immediately I thought... Ian Begley bumped into Pablo Prigioni and sprained his other ankle.

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